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Costochondritis?

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Patients' started by HydroChronix, Jan 5, 2011.

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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    Oh and Chosto is always the worst in Cold Weather. If anyone needs questions or advice on things that help Chostochondritis my email is [email protected]

    Diagnosed with Chostochondritis and IBS in 2012. IBS has subsided thank Lord but I think it's bc the pain in my chest has over ridden it lol and now I'm a fucking kinky cause I have to get shit on streets so I can work and won't be in pain 24/7. So before u give up and start self medicating please email me bc drugs will make Chosto worst, but Marijuana doesn't bother me it used to but I'm not given up Mary Jane that's my baby. Please cont my gmail written above if ur in a dark place like I was for a whole with this fucking stupid disease. Why can't they put a fucking needle in chest sac and suck the fluid build up I don't understand why docs can't just do that....it would help Chosto patience. They don't have a cure but I think if you get your top left rib removed (u can live without ribs yes) or just pop ur chest. Stick it out hard as u can til it pops that helps too and I heard people getting cured from Accupuncture and Chiropractic so I'm trying that soon.I love all of y'all and just know if we are suffering in the flesh than that most likely means our souls are going to heaven. God is testing our will power and Faith. A lot of Chostocondritis is in your head too. Meditating in the dark helps and hot showers and baths. Hope I can help Sumone find a cure
     
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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    Ice and Alcohol and Cigarette smoke will aggravate Chosto bad
     
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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    Did everything work out. Tobacco irritates it but I smokeeveryday its just certain strands of medical that help for chest pains and sleep. Dont take Xanax cause they help for about 2 months with no pain but than your hooked on xans. Go to a doctor and rell him valiums is the only thing that keeps your chest pains at bay b/c valiums helped me and I can smoke but dont do anything witout askin doctor cause im not a doctor just trying to help. Im on year 3 and dont seem to be getting any better but you can fund a way to live wit it. [email protected] if you need sum advise on remedies that help. Chosto always bad in winter and always bad when siiftung or laying never when working or blood flowing which makes me automatically think of blood clot
     
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    Niceman480

    Niceman480 New Member

    Hey how's it going? So I was diagnosed with costochondrtis a week ago and I'll say that it sucks complete ass so far, I'm posting cause I'm curious bout smoking the ganja while having this condition and that's really only why. I'm just curious how you or anyone else who reads this is how smoking effects you while having this? When I smoke I get a panic attacks and a righty chest and slight pains.. I love smoking weed and it would suck to never be able to smoke again. Did the Costco swelling ever go away after a couple weeks and you could smoke regularly again? Please write me back cause I'm having anxiety from all of this :(
     
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    pookat

    pookat Well-Known Member

    @yoyo504 thanks for the info mate, its a big help....Cheers... i owe you a beer + Smoke
     
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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    As the Weed gets befter
    No proPETTOBACCO IS A NO NO WITH CHOSTO, BUT I SMOKE BLUNTS(ONLY ON WEEKENDS USUALLY) and Joints. ALL I CAN SAY IS THE BETTER THE WEEDS GETTING THE BETTER MY CHOSTO IS GETTING. WEED HAS HELPED ME THE MOST. MORE THAN OPIATES, BENZOS, IVE TOOK IT ALL FOR CHOSTO PAIN EVEN HEROIN BUT WEED TAKES THE PAIN AWAY FOR ME NOW...IT USED TO IRRITATE MY CHODTO BAD BUT NOW IT HELPS. MARIJUANA IS AWESOME. IF YOU DONT LIKE WEED ASK YOUR DOC FOR COLONOPINS OR VALIUMS...THATS THE ONLY PILLS THAT WORKED FOR ME AND I TOOK METHADONE. NOW JUST WEED AND METHADONE CLINIC☺. I'LL BE DABING FOR 4TH OF JULY AND UPDATE ON IF IT HURTS MY CHEST OR NOT. WITH CHOSTO I THINK ACCEPTANCE IS THE BIGGEST THING MENTALLY AND EATING HEALTHY DOES HELP, BUT IGF YOUR IN A STATE THAT WEED IS LEGAL , LEMON TREE PUT MY CHODT IN REMISSION FOR A LIL BIT, THEY ARE COMING OUT WITH GOOD WEED FOR PAIN SO THEY CAN ELIMINATE OPIATE DEATHS. SMART MOVE BY CANNABIS CEO'S. IVE WENT FROM WANTING TO BLOW MY BRAINS PUT TO LIVING A FUNCTIONABLE LIFE, DONT GIVE UP AND NEVER THINKAS YOURSELF AS A JUNKY IF YOU TAKE PAIN MEDS BECAUSE CHOSTOCONDRITIS IS FRIWNED UPON I JUST TELL PEOPLE, ONLY IF YOU COULD WALK AN HOUR IN MY SHOES. MY HEARTBEAT IS LIKE A ATHLETES THATS WHAT THE DOC SAID 58 PER MINUTE. ITS JUST THAT TOP LEFT RIB AND CHESTBONE WHERE FLUID BUILDS UP, ONLY HEARD OF 1 GUY GETTING CURED..HE GOT HIS TOP LEFT RIB REMOVED. ITS ONLINE SOMEWHERE. PEACE AND LOVE MY FELLOW CHOSTO FRIENDS!!!
     
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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    [QUOTE="Niceman480, post: 12637744, member: 933How's it going? So I was diagnosed with costochondrtis a week ago and I'll say that it sucks complete ass so far, I'm posting cause I'm curious bout smoking the ganja while having this condition and that's really only why. I'm just curious how you or anyone else who reads this is how smoking effects you while having this? When I smoke I get a panic attacks and a righty chest and slight pains.. I love smoking weed and it would suck to never be able to smoke again. Did the Costco swelling ever go away after a couple weeks and you could smoke regularly again? Please write me back cause I'm having anxiety from all of this :([/QUOTE]
    I posted about weed and chosto its on this thread sumwhere but yeh at first it sux but with me i just kept smoking and my chosto is actually getting better as the wed gets better. Read my thread about it, I quit smokeing for a year but it still hudt so i said fuck it, so started smoking again but it helpsed this tum insted of irritating it. Watch wat u eat before bed 2, not a huge meal.
     
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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    REMEMBER GUYS I EAS AN IDIOT AND GOT MY DRUGS OFF THE STREET INDTEAD OF DOCTOR LIKE AN IDIOT LOL BUT CHECK WITH A DOC BEFORE YOU TURN TO SELF MEDICATING. I DID THST AS A LAST RESORT. NOW ONLY WEED AND METHADONE CLINIC, EVENTUALLY JUST MARY JANE MY BABY
     
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    yoyo504

    yoyo504 New Member

    Cortisone or however u spell it is supposed to take pain away for Lil bit but I'm not wasting money on something that doesn't cure it for good, I'm starting to think Weed is going to be the cure. I know I sound like a Weed Activist but it saved my life. I couldn't smoke at first it hurt my chosto so bad and I had to give up smoke for a bit and it sucked but pain went away. Pain came back I said fuck it smoked sum MEDICAL MARIJUANA and now it helps instead of irritating, its weird but Thank You Lord for making a that plant.
     
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    HiiiPoWerrr

    HiiiPoWerrr New Member

    Hi Guys

    New member here from Birmingham in the UK. I'm so so so glad I've found this thread, I came across it whilst randomly googling "costochondritis cannabis" and this was the first link that came up and you won't believe just how much comfort I got from just knowing that I wasn't alone with this, I'm afraid this could be a fairly long post but please bare with me.

    I'm 25 very fit and healty, exercise regularly (mountain biking/climbing) and have been self-medicating with Cannabis now for the past year and a half for ADHD, I smoke it through a bong at least twice a day and it is amazing in calming me down and helping me concentrate.

    It was about 3 weeks ago that I was doing some work on my car in the evening after work and hit a bong (UK Cheese), almost instantly I felt unwell, my chest felt very very tight and I started to get really sharp pains from the left side of my chest and really went into panic mode, I was home alone and genuinly thought I was having a heart attack, I felt really detached from the situation like I wasn't in my own body and I was kind of watching myself from above, I couldn't catch my breath and I honestly thought I had minutes left on earth. I locked the house up and walked into the street to try and calm myself down and if I did keel over and have heart attack at least someone would find me :/. I took a walk up the street and ended up feeling even worse to the point that I ended up seeking refuge with a security guard that was manning the door at a Synagogue a few minutes from my house, I just asked if I could stand and talk with him for a few minutes until the pain eased off but he was insistent on calling an ambulance to which I begged him not to and he didn't. After about 15 minutes the pain eased and I walked back home and thought that would be the end of it, I put this down to being dodgy weed even though it's the same stuff I always get and my same dealer.

    3 days later I was up in the Yokshire Dales on a driving holiday with friends, I hadn't smoked any weed since the incident but randomly whilst driving, the tightness came back and so did the pain, we were miles and miles away from any village, no phone signal and I was terrified and decended into another full on panic attack to the point where I was sweating, breathless and threw up. Again 10-15 mins later the pain passed but I still felt odd for the remainder of the holiday, this time the tightness remained and so did the pain, wasn't so much sharp, but a dull pain, was certainly worse if I sat down and eased if I stood up. I returned home on the Sunday of that weekend and went into work on Monday and had another "episode", I was sent home to go to the doctors.

    I booked an appointment and went to see a doctor at my local Surgery that I haven't had to visit before since I'd moved house. He examined me told me it wasn't heart related and likely a strained muscle from working on my car, told me not to work on the car for a while and take some Paracetamol to ease the pain and that the pain from the muscle causing me to have panic attacks because I was convincing myself it was a heart attack. He also told me he didn't think this was due to the cannabis and if anything, inhaling deeply from my bong just expanded my chest enough to aggrevate the muscle and cause the pain. I took some Paracemol and about 20 mins later I threw up again and the pain was back. I rang the surgery back and they booked me in for another appointment the next day with my registered doctor who wasn't in the day before.

    Again I explained my symptoms to my registered doctor who examined me a little more thoroughly, I showed him where I was getting the localised pains which is right on my breastbone slightly to the right of my left pectoral, it's really painful like pressing on a bruise, the area can't be any wider than the diameter of a 10 pence piece, I also have the same pain in the centre of my lowermost left rib. The doctor again told me he didn't think it was heart related and told me that I must just keep telling myself this to avoid the panic attacks, he advised me that the cartilidge that joined my pectoral to my rib could be inflamed or it could be lung inflamation, prescribing me a rather high dosage of Cocodimol and Ibuprofen.

    At first this was working really well, the pain almost dissapeared totally however it has gradually returned and the meds are having little to no effect. The temperature has dropped here in the UK significantly the past week and I've noticed just walking around in the cold brings the pain on very quickly, Bonfire Night I was at a firework display and was outside for about an hour, the pain came on again all of a sudden and this time worse than when it came on for the first time when I smoked the cannabis. I rang NHS Direct and they advised me to go straight into hospital.

    In I went and after 3-4 hours waiting and after an ECG, Chest X-Ray and Blolod Tests I was dischared with a clean bill of health and no heart problems found at all which was very re-assuring, they advised me that my doctors diagnosis was correct and to keep taking the Ibuprofen and half the dosage of the Cocodimol. The pains come and go and it's very unpleasent and really messes up my day, even though I know it's not my heart it still worries me but I've been panic attack free so that's something I guess.

    Today was the first time I've tried Cannabis since the first time I experienced the pains and I was back at square 1, I rode it out but was minutes away from calling an ambulance as I felt like I was going to die!!!!!

    Neither doctors or the hospital have diagnosed me with Costochondritis but after hours of research this evening I'm convicned that this is what I have and again I'm so glad I found this thread, I totally sympathise with everyone here that is suffering with this and wish for all of us to be able to get over this and eventually become pain free. I can't imagine a life without cannabis but more importantly can't imagine a life with this constant pain and discomfort.

    Now I've found this condition, I'll be approching my doctor again next week and I'll report back.

    I'd be interested what you guys think and wish all of you the best of health and a speedy recovery if possible!!!!

    Stay strong people
     
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2016
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    drtalos

    drtalos New Member

    I've lived with this condition for two years. When the pain first came on, I felt physically ill as well - sluggish, and while not exactly tired, I felt off 100% of the time. I've been a habitual cannabis smoker my entire adult life (better part of 20 years), and there seemed to be a direct correlation between smoking and the pain. My pain is on the right side (next to 3rd rib down from top?), so i never confused it with heart issues. My doctor visits diagnosed my condition as costochondritis. Xrays showed nothing. anti-Inflammatory proscribed (meloxicam) which didn't help my condition, but did make me feel really weird. Here's the thing, smoking made it worse, vaping made it worse, eating edibles made it worse. Only stopping all cannabis intake made it better, but the problem never went away completely. I stopped smoking for 18 months, but started again (4 months ago) just to enjoy life a bit. It certainly made the problem flare up again, but it isn't as bad as a couple years ago. Most notably, I feel the pain, but do not have the sluggish feeling like when I first got the issue. I think there is a real chance that that anxiety really played a part in how bad I felt at first - the pain can be so extreme its hard to believe nothing is really wrong. Not sure what else to say - chronic problem? aggravated by my behavior, but by all accounts not any worse than pain?
     
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    HiiiPoWerrr

    HiiiPoWerrr New Member

    Thanks for coming back, I was worried this thread was dead.

    I've stopped smoking for about 3 weeks now and I seem to be getting a little better. I've decided that I'm going to use my bong this evening and agreed that I'd wait for my girlfriend to get home in case anything happens or I experience severe discomfort.

    I have to admit it does seem like there is a correlation between cannabis use and the pains, I'm hoping my body hasn't started to reject it totally as I'd be devestated however, that being said I haven't once these past weeks thought "damn I miss Cannabis" or had any overwhelming urges to smoke. I wonder if a mix of physical exertion and cannabis smoking have both contributed? I'm very much still in the dark but intrigued to find out more.

    I've also been Cocodimol & Ibuprofen free now for 4 days and haven't had any tightness or sharp pains, some mild discomfot at most weirdly only when sat in my car driving to and from work. Although there is still a "sensation" there constantly and I can still feel for tender bits on my ribs and sternum area and find some quite sensitive patches.

    I'll report back with my finding after this evenings smoke, wish me luck :(
     
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    a senile fungus

    a senile fungus Well-Known Member

    I found that strengthening my back and rotator cuffs while going and having adjustment done via an osteopathic physician was the best thing for me. Also, being mindful of my posture helps a lot as well. I hang my head when I read, which puts stress on the sternum. Now I am more mindful of not hanging my head down and not rolling my shoulders forward.

    Best thing for me was exercise, strengthening the muscles around the upper back and shoulder blades, rotator cuff, upper pec, etc while also getting the ribs adjusted. Osteopathic manipulative medicine.
     
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    HiiiPoWerrr

    HiiiPoWerrr New Member

    Additionally, I'm interested that you say the X-Ray didn't show any signs of inflammation? I'd have expected you or your doctor to see something like this?

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=c...hWQyRoKHSSABLcQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=1UWlCk8J7I7SyM:
     
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    HiiiPoWerrr

    HiiiPoWerrr New Member

    Hi Guys

    I said I'd report back so here I am, and I'm not a happy chappy, looks like I'm going to have to give up the Cannabis for the forseeable future.

    I've tried to smoke a small amount 3 times now on 3 diufferent occassions and each time the tightness, pain and paranoia got the best of me, I'm devestated.

    To top it off, the amount of Ibuprofen I've been taking has now given me a UTI (Urinary Infection) and I'm now on Anti-Biotics for that.

    I'm feeling pretty shitty by now, excuse my language.

    How is everyone else getting on?
     
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    a senile fungus

    a senile fungus Well-Known Member

    @HiiiPoWerrr

    You should try to get seen by an osteopathic physician (DO) who specializes in osteopathic manipulative technique (OMT). It will change your life.

    My doc did this and found issues where I was having pain.


    Then she did this and I could breath again. There are different techniques depending on where the problem is.


    I was diagnosed with costochondritis over a decade ago, and OMT along with strength and stability training is the only thing that has helped. I started seeing my doctor very often just for a 5min adjustment and then I'd do physical therapy, yoga, calisthenics, etc to train my body to strengthen the adjusted position. After a while, I didn't need to see the doctor as often, and I wasn't reinjuring myself constantly like before...

    I hope that helps you.
     
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    HiiiPoWerrr

    HiiiPoWerrr New Member

    Great videos!!!! The first once especially

    I have lay down on my living room floor flat on my back and noticed before I even asked my partners to carry out the steps in the video that the left side of my chest sits a lot higher than my right and my 6th/7th ribs on my left side protrude a noticable amount more than the others, upon tracking the rib from my back to the centre of the sternum they led back to the exact points that I was getting the very sharp pains!!!!!

    I'm now looking for an OMT in my area and think there may be a reputable one only 15 mins from where I live in Birmingham.

    I'm going to get me an appointment booked as to be honest my doctor seemed a little out of his depth when I suggested Chosto but did say that he would be happy diagnosing it as that now the hospital ruled out anything cardio vascular.

    As always I'll report back with my findings and progress with this, I just hope eveyone else is coping OK with it especially those who are struggling with very bad pain which is affecting their mental wellbeing :(

    Stay positive guys
     
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    a senile fungus

    a senile fungus Well-Known Member

    I hope you find relief!

    Only let someone trained in the technique perform the maneuver! You could break ribs otherwise...
     
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    WeedFreak78

    WeedFreak78 Well-Known Member

    It's amazing how just a little regular exercise can take care of a slew of physical ailments. I keep saying in going to start hiking again, but I don't. ..

    And posture is huge. .I slouch when I sit and if I'm not being conscience of it I start getting lasting back, neck, shoulder and chest pains.
     
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    Sally Beardmore

    Sally Beardmore New Member

    I have suffered Costochondritis for 21yrs with the last 8 & half as chronic and now have it that severe that I am classed as Totally & permanently Disabled.
    I have found that cannabis makes the world of difference and I find that when I am smoking or eat feco /rso I find it is the best pain reliever.
     
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