[DARK DEVIL & JACK HERER AUTO] first grow

etznabkhan

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Hey guys so this is going to be my first grow and this is all i have 5 DARK DEVIL and 1 JACK HERER autos, 4 vero 29 from @RainDan Timber grow lights DIY,digital grounded 7 days timer, fox farm poting soil, ultrasonic humidifier,hygro thermometer,Bio bizz starters pack http://www.biobizz.com/products/#starters·pack
and a little fan my space is a closet to be closed 1.70 x 70 cm.

what else do i need to start?
Autopilot Dehumidifying Humidify?https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/APSCD
Autopilot Cooling Thermostat?https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/APCSC
an extractor like 150?

and some class of film for the walls?
every help will be well received thx all guys!
 

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visajoe1

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-panda or mylar for the walls
-240cfm booster fan is plenty for that space
-probably dont need the autopilots...but what is the temp/rh of the room its in?
-ph meter?
-ec meter?
-what quality is your water?
 

etznabkhan

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Well for ph /ec i think gona use the cheap tests until i can buy a good kit for read that stats, the water going to use bottle water that is cheap here but dint have a way to know its qualitty the fan and the film is easy to get it but i was thinkig on the autopilots cuz im out of home most part of the day just came to sleep thx for your atention man :p
 

714steadyeddie

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Nice light I have the same one , if you start in ocean forest I don't think you'll need to feed much
Hey guys so this is going to be my first grow and this is all i have 5 DARK DEVIL and 1 JACK HERER autos, 4 vero 29 from @RainDan Timber grow lights DIY,digital grounded 7 days timer, fox farm poting soil, ultrasonic humidifier,hygro thermometer,Bio bizz starters pack http://www.biobizz.com/products/#starters·pack
and a little fan my space is a closet to be closed 1.70 x 70 cm.

what else do i need to start?
Autopilot Dehumidifying Humidify?https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/APSCD
Autopilot Cooling Thermostat?https://www.hydrofarm.com/p/APCSC
an extractor like 150?

and some class of film for the walls?
every help will be well received thx all guys!
 

visajoe1

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Well for ph /ec i think gona use the cheap tests until i can buy a good kit for read that stats, the water going to use bottle water that is cheap here but dint have a way to know its qualitty the fan and the film is easy to get it but i was thinkig on the autopilots cuz im out of home most part of the day just came to sleep thx for your atention man :p
sounds good enough for soil, and you def dont need the autopilots. just water when you're home. if you need to control the room temp, you can get one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V4TJR00/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

or for humidity
https://www.amazon.com/WILLHI-Humidity-Controller-Pre-Wired-110V-240V/dp/B005DK2T2Y/ref=pd_sim_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z5389R8F606MA3HXJ0MX
 

etznabkhan

Member
sounds good enough for soil, and you def dont need the autopilots. just water when you're home. if you need to control the room temp, you can get one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V4TJR00/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

or for humidity
https://www.amazon.com/WILLHI-Humidity-Controller-Pre-Wired-110V-240V/dp/B005DK2T2Y/ref=pd_sim_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z5389R8F606MA3HXJ0MX
PARAMETERS ARE
MIN-19.1/ MAX-25.6 centigrade
MIN-35%/MAX-47% humidity

so 1 have 2 issues here i have to control the EC/PH
also have to control the TEMP/RH

but just can get 1 of those systems bcuz of $$$ (both kits are similar prices)

what would you do masters! :)
 

visajoe1

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PARAMETERS ARE
MIN-19.1/ MAX-25.6 centigrade
MIN-35%/MAX-47% humidity

so 1 have 2 issues here i have to control the EC/PH
also have to control the TEMP/RH

but just can get 1 of those systems bcuz of $$$ (both kits are similar prices)

what would you do masters! :)
your temps is perfect actually, humidity perfect for flower and about 15% low for veg (not a big deal at all). you can just let it be natural, you dont need to change it. use that money towards ec and ph meters, an oakton ph meter is $50, and a generic tds/ec meter is $20
 

visajoe1

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you're golden. you have a great foundation to work from. is that the highest your light can go?
you may want to think about your growth plan so you know when to flip (i.e. what is your max plant height with proper light to canopy distance?)

calculate your growth space backwards, from the light raised as high as possible. measure down 15", this will be the top of the canopy at its highest point. from there to the floor is your grow area. subtract the height of the pot and that number is how big your plant can be. im guessing you have about 90cm of grow space, which is close what im working with. you'll need to top those autos at least once
 

etznabkhan

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wow thx men its great to listen that , actually it is 35 cm from their max height so i have like 1.70 from light to the floor if i put them at max height

if im going to do this in 2 gallons containers 6 of them that are 22cm+38 cm from light distance they can grow like 90-110cm max ?
 

visajoe1

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wow thx men its great to listen that , actually it is 35 cm from their max height so i have like 1.70 from light to the floor if i put them at max height

if im going to do this in 2 gallons containers 6 of them that are 22cm+38 cm from light distance they can grow like 90-110cm max ?
you got it 8-) its ok if they reach a little beyond the 15" (38cm) distance to lights, but you want to protect them against growing into it. getting too close can cause burning, bleaching, etc. you can expect a plant to double in height when flipped. go for it my man!
 

etznabkhan

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i just found this wild babys a couple weeks ago i dont know their age and i transplant them i put 12/12 and 500ml water with 0.5 ml top max/biohaven/biobloom every 3 days starting now how much % of the light would be good if they were outside? looks like a storm is coming so idont want to loose that trichomes

just want to take care of those to see how it goes indoor vero 29 400w at 50 % power now
 

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visajoe1

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i just found this wild babys a couple weeks ago i dont know their age and i transplant them i put 12/12 and 500ml water with 0.5 ml top max/biohaven/biobloom every 3 days starting now how much % of the light would be good if they were outside? looks like a storm is coming so idont want to loose that trichomes

just want to take care of those to see how it goes indoor vero 29 400w at 50 % power now
you found that outside?
 

etznabkhan

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you found that outside?
is it ok? to be outside? it had like 2 weeks in my backyard

they looks like they love to be inside

i already had 1 like 5 years ago and she grow like 1.80 cm and give a good production but thats all the experience i have she was in my backyard in the grownd directly and feed with tomato, banana and egg shells
 
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visajoe1

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is it ok? to be outside? it had like 2 weeks in my backyard

they looks like they love to be inside

i already had 1 like 5 years ago and she grow like 1.80 cm and give a good production but thats all the experience i have she was in my backyard in the grownd directly and feed with tomato, banana and egg shells
ya, its fine, just thought you found a wild plant and brought it home like a stray dog. never heard of such a thing. but, it was your own, now im on the same page. looks good
 

etznabkhan

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hahaha like a stray dog, actually i think they grow from my own seeds so its like i found my stray dog xP what do you think about the water qtty and nutrients i dont want to use much from the starter pack i want it for the autos :) also i dont know if its not enough i dont want them thirsty
 
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