Daveindiegos dickaround and OMFG what have I done thread.

[Daveindiego]

Daveindiego.

Destroying crops since April 2017.


I am not getting into this ‘hobby’ to achieve this result.

4th grow
Holy grail OG.
24 grams of flower, 14 grams of trim.


Stick with me, this thread is going to get better.

 

[Daveindiego]

Some people here have been trying to help based on info I’ve provided. And I appreciate it.

Indoor
Coco with Perlite
House and Garden nutrients
Temps avg 68-88
Hum avg 40-55
pH 5.9 - 6.3
PPMs 800-1250 throughout

These are my medium and nutrients.

 

[Daveindiego]

This week, after seeing a post on it, I was sure I had found the problem.

Faulty pH pen. No doubt about it. It had to be my 15 dollar pH pen from Amazon.

I went to my local hydro store to buy another pen, and to check on the one I had been using to see how far off it had been. The manager of the store checked the pen calibration, and found it to be ‘incredibly accurate’.

Damn. Then WTF is going on?

I reduced the nutrients by half recommendation. I kept the Cal Mag in the diet. The manager of the hydro store thought it might just be a dud plant.

 

[Daveindiego]

The hydro store manager mentioned to test the PPMs in the runoff.

I also mentioned before, and was told it’s a problem, had been using saucers for my 3 gal pots, and I had NOT been emptying the runoff.

 

[Daveindiego]

Today I watered my plants.

Here are 2 Ghost OG. They are doing their Daveindiego dickaround dying on the vine. These plants are at 8 weeks, and planning on chopping soon.

Today’s feeding
pH 6.0
PPMs 817

 

[Daveindiego]

But today, I emptied out the saucers.

And got knocked on my fucking ass when I went to measure the runoff.

pH/PPMs
5.5 and 7738 ppm
5.1 and 8794 ppm


WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Daveindiego]

Here is the flower.

 

[chemphlegm]

whatever you're doing...isnt working.
here's what I do, I bet it would work well for you too.
day time 75f
night time 68
many fans high and low
1000 watt lights, hps and mh
pro mix hp
Organicare dry ferts, per instructions on bag
water when dry only, right before plant wilts.
1/4 of the pro mix volume in water all at once, each time when soil is dry
24 hours veg t5
12/12 flower, 60-75 days

 

[Daveindiego]

Well, now I am totally freaking out and wondering WTF have I done.

I watered the next two plants, week 6, Malibu Pie
6.0 pH
1081 PPMs


Runoff
5.1 and 7890
5.5 and 8466

 

[Daveindiego]

This time, I used a clean saucer underneath the next batch of plants, 2 Vader OG, week 4 of flower before watering.

My high PPMs had to have been from measuring from old residual runoff.
5.9 ph
1117 PPMs.


Runoff
5.16 and 4127 PPMs
5.56 and 3888 PPMs.

Well, it looks like using a clean saucer mattered. But still these numbers are startling.

 

[Daveindiego]

That left the last two plants to be fed.

Venom OG. Both are still in transition from flipping.

6.0 pH
971 PPMs.

Runoff
6.2 and 1717 PPMs
6.25 and 1378 PPMs.

 

[Daveindiego]

I’m really hoping this is my eureka moment with this.

Now, what do I do to fix it?

@Dr. Who @Dynamo626
@oh really???

 

[KryptoBud]

I think you have a mold and mildew problem.

 

[Daveindiego]

I think you have a mold and mildew problem.

yeah, that is being combatted with the dehumidifier that is set to 35.

Also treated with that green cure stuff.

 

[Daveindiego]

Also, can some explain this EC reading?

 

[chemphlegm]

The hydraulic store manager mentioned.........

Ding Ding Ding !
never did trust those guys

 

[Wrrrrl]

Hey man, I lurk and don't feel like talking much, lol. But I can't stand watching your crop go downhill like that.
I know this one is all but done but just for future sake; I have grown in coco for 10 years now.

It looks to me like you're letting it dry out. Rule 1:Never let coco dry out, it is not dirt.
Here's what generally happens:
When coco dries out the nutes it holds become concentrated and you get some nute burn.
Also it whacks out your ph, usually going acidic. Newb's reaction is to lower feeding, or flush with plain water which is worse!

Rule 2: don't give it water with less than .8 ec, it fucks up the cation exchange.

By now with ph being off and on, along with burn you get deficiencies. All this will reduce your yield and potency and leave your crop looking crispy
even though you did everything right.....except let it dry out between watering. Now if I'm wrong I apologize, but this very thing is what stumped me when I switched to coco after growing in soil for 20 years!! Took 2 crops that looked just like yours before I got it figured out.
Stick with it man, I hope you get it figured out cuz coco really does kick ass!!
PS, I don't flush, lol. EDIT: it is possible to over water in coco if the roots aren't well established and seedlings. There's a bit more to coco than this little post.

 

[Daveindiego]

Thanks, man.

I water on average every other day, and water based on weight of pot.

Yeah, I let the top of the coco get dry, but how much can I water it?

 

[Daveindiego]

whatever you're doing...isnt working.
here's what I do, I bet it would work well for you too.
day time 75f
night time 68
many fans high and low
1000 watt lights, hps and mh
pro mix hp
Organicare dry ferts, per instructions on bag
water when dry only, right before plant wilts.
1/4 of the pro mix volume in water all at once, each time when soil is dry
24 hours veg t5
12/12 flower, 60-75 days

i have two fans inside the tent, and a inlet fan feeding fresh air.

With a 600w light, I fought temps getting into the 90’s. I’d never make it with a 1000w light.

 

[Dynamo626]

Thanks, man.

I water on average every other day, and water based on weight of pot.

Yeah, I let the top of the coco get dry, but how much can I water it?

Yes feed every single day the coco drying out is also nutes drying and crystlizing and building up. Sry i dont use ec i use tds not familiar with ec readings. When you flush salt out of coco dont use fresh water use your nute solution at 5.8 watter to run off let sit 30 min then keep running that freshly mixed solution untill run off is within 100 to 200 ppm of the solution going in. With that build up you have may take quite a bit.