Dave's 2nd Grow - LSD in Bubble/DWC with Fogger

lordjin said:

Oh, don't get me started on pot withdrawal. We're not talking Trainspotting here, but there is a bit of 'crankiness' associated with stopping suddenly.

I currently have the tolerance of a large male silverback gorilla. My current routine (which has been going for almost four months since harvesting) is this: I get up, shower, and smoke a bowl... every day without fail -- with multiple bowls in the evening. Incredibly, despite my tolerance, this is still getting me mega-high without fail. But I do realize that if I just took a couple of days off and smoked it again, it would be a different story. I just might try that one of these days.

but yeah, stopping after you've been doing it regularly for a while is generally not fun. It's too bad you're not in my state. I would totally kick you down with bud in 'lean times.' Oh well.

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And I would return the favor to you if you had some 'lean times' too.

I'm going to get baked before going into surgery tomorrow morning. I'm not getting anesthesia because I can't feel anything below my armpits anyway, but being stoned might make me doze off for a while, which I won't mind.

daveroller said:

And I would return the favor to you if you had some 'lean times' too.

I'm going to get baked before going into surgery tomorrow morning. I'm not getting anesthesia because I can't feel anything below my armpits anyway, but being stoned might make me doze off for a while, which I won't mind.

That reminds me of a funny story. I had to go to the clinic to do a sleep study where they wired me up with electrodes on my head to monitor my brain waves while I slept. Well, I was supposed to take a sleeping pill, but forgot to go to pick it up. So instead I smoked my brains out just before going to the clinic. When the results came back the doctor asked me if I smoked pot before the study, because he said that my brain waves showed a textbook-perfect pattern for somebody sleeping soundly. Just another testament to the benefits of the noble herb.​

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Now that is interesting.

Dave, you're exactly the kind of patient I want to grow free weed for. I don't know, something about these mmj dispensaries are starting to irk me now. I'd like to show them how real medical dispensing is done. Lol.

But yeah, we should remain in communication here at RIU for sure.

lordjin said:

Now that is interesting.

Dave, you're exactly the kind of patient I want to grow free weed for. I don't know, something about these mmj dispensaries are starting to irk me now. I'd like to show them how real medical dispensing is done. Lol.

But yeah, we should remain in communication here at RIU for sure.

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You're an inspiration to us all. Growing and trading for donations is all good and fine, but the real lesson here is in the compassion of one person to another.

ChairmanMaow said:

You're an inspiration to us all. Growing and trading for donations is all good and fine, but the real lesson here is in the compassion of one person to another.

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Your comment reminds me of that Paul Rudd movie, "Role Models." I am not a role model. Lol. But then again, in the film, the two main characters end up becoming just that... so who knows?

And as much as we pot smokers like to romanticize this notion of "Compassionate Medical Marijuana Dispensaries" (I did it a lot at first too), since they've been around a while, it's gotten harder to defend against the argument that these shops are basically legal drug dealers selling mostly to 'patients' who aren't suffering from any kind of real medical condition.

I'm not all of a sudden speaking out against dispensaries, but they do continue to charge nearly drug-dealer street prices for their goods. Again, I don't see that so much as 'compassionate donation' but out and out selling. Because let's face it, that's what it is. From purely a business perspective, when you consider the margin of the markup from the wholesale prices they get from the small growers who do all the hard work, it's clear to see that it's a for-profit, bottom line business like anything else. In my book, compassionate donation for trade is taking you out to dinner, buying you a beer, or just saying thank you for this free medicine that I need so badly. As far as I'm concerned, the use of the word "compassion" by all these places is just lip service. You realize that quickly when you see the prices on their menu board.

I have minor conditions that I treat with bud. I'm bi-polar and my back hurts. That's it. I know others who benefit from pot that need it way more than I do. Dave here for instance.

lordjin said:

And as much as we pot smokers like to romanticize this notion of "Compassionate Medical Marijuana Dispensaries" (I did it a lot at first too), since they've been around a while, it's gotten harder to defend against the argument that these shops are basically legal drug dealers selling mostly to 'patients' who aren't suffering from any kind of real medical condition.

I'm not all of a sudden speaking out against dispensaries, but they do continue to charge nearly drug-dealer street prices for their goods. Again, I don't see that so much as 'compassionate donation' but out and out selling. Because let's face it, that's what it is. From purely a business perspective, when you consider the margin of the markup from the wholesale prices they get from the small growers who do all the hard work, it's clear to see that it's a for-profit, bottom line business like anything else. In my book, compassionate donation for trade is taking you out to dinner, buying you a beer, or just saying thank you for this free medicine that I need so badly. As far as I'm concerned, the use of the word "compassion" by all these places is just lip service. You realize that quickly when you see the prices on their menu board.

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And Until it's legal, or less illegal as it is now, we'll continue to see this happen. I know that dispensaries around here pay 2400-3000 per lb, and depending on the quality and exoticness of the strain, they can charge from $12-almost $20 per gram. And while I understand, once in a while, there's something that meets those quality standards (properly cured, trich-covered, dense buds), they are flat out charging way too much for meds. Especially when they try to say they're non-profit.

Yeah. Nice viper in the parking lot, asshole.


I get what you mean about people who don't really need it, too, but as a former recreational user, I could understand the reasoning to get legal. Who the fuck wants to deal with dealers who don't know shit when you can go into a safe environment where the budtender will actually tell you about what you're buying and how it was grown? If I didn't have any of the real conditions, I might consider it. Especially since I know how fucking easy it is to get legal.

ChairmanMaow said:

And Until it's legal, or less illegal as it is now, we'll continue to see this happen. I know that dispensaries around here pay 2400-3000 per lb, and depending on the quality and exoticness of the strain, they can charge from $12-almost $20 per gram. And while I understand, once in a while, there's something that meets those quality standards (properly cured, trich-covered, dense buds), they are flat out charging way too much for meds. Especially when they try to say they're non-profit.

Yeah. Nice viper in the parking lot, asshole.


I get what you mean about people who don't really need it, too, but as a former recreational user, I could understand the reasoning to get legal. Who the fuck wants to deal with dealers who don't know shit when you can go into a safe environment where the budtender will actually tell you about what you're buying and how it was grown? If I didn't have any of the real conditions, I might consider it. Especially since I know how fucking easy it is to get legal.

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Good point. I guess it wouldn't be fair of me to completely ignore that side of it. Yes, it is safer to buy it legally as opposed to the days of the drug dealer.

And I'm not gonna bullshit anyone. I started out as a recreational user too (8th grade). I'm pretty sure I wasn't trying to treat any medical condition back then...

But I want to see these dispensaries put out of business. Not by conservative elements in our legislative process, but by the community of small growers taking care of one another. I don't feel pot is a drug to be dispensed for profit... nor is it simply a vice or novelty to be packaged and sold like cigarettes. It's a special herb. As special as the people who love it and grow it.

lordjin said:

I don't feel pot is a drug to be dispensed for profit... nor is it simply a vice or novelty to be packaged and sold like cigarettes. It's a special herb. As special as the people who love it and grow it.

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This.

lordjin said:

Now that is interesting.

Dave, you're exactly the kind of patient I want to grow free weed for. I don't know, something about these mmj dispensaries are starting to irk me now. I'd like to show them how real medical dispensing is done. Lol.

But yeah, we should remain in communication here at RIU for sure.

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ChairmanMaow said:

You're an inspiration to us all. Growing and trading for donations is all good and fine, but the real lesson here is in the compassion of one person to another.

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You two friends are way too nice to me. Between the wife and me, we make a decent income, so I can pay the going rate for pot around here.

(I just have a financial problem with my house, which is underwater = I owe the bank more than the house's current value. But hopefully CitiGroup will go after the bigger fish before they come after me!)​

But when I start growing again I'll hopefully get another nice batch of happy medicine, so I won't need to buy anything for a few months again.

The cookies are helping me a little. At least I don't feel wired at all. I ate 4 on Tuesday night and slept like a baby all night. Only ate 2 last night and here I am typing at 4:52 am. But the good thing is that my hands aren't shaking & I feel relaxed.

Jin, that's a real generous, compassionate idea you have for providing "free" medicine to patients who really need it. (Or trading it for some token of appreciation.) You're right, prices at dispensaries are way too high, the same price that I have to pay on the street. I wish that someone would sell it at a more reasonable price, legally at a dispensary. That would put a lot of pressure on the other dispensaries to lower their prices, assuming that this one could handle lots of new customers. Or you could just have your own private group of people who you feel comfortable selling your good medicine to, at sensible prices:
And Jin, don't be hard on yourself for not having the greatest need for mj medicine. There's absolutely no reason why you should be prevented from smoking pot. If it helps your bipolarism and back pain, then you should have the right to use it. Period. There might be people who need it more, but who cares? I have fun with smoking & vaping, even though I need it as medicine. I always toke up when I go hand cycling down a bike path out in nature. Nothing wrong with enjoying the effects. I feel that just having a little cannabinoid in my blood, even if I toked it recreationally, helps to relieve my pain all day. Anyway, it should be legal for anyone over 18 who wants to use it.

daveroller said:

Anyway, it should be legal for anyone over 18 who wants to use it.

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Yes. You nailed it. That's the most important thing.

But look, that 323Cheezy guy is gonna donate a couple of cuts for me to start my next grow... (Like I really need to tell you that with my attention-whore ass plastering it all over my journal) It's gonna be a heavy indica OG, perfect for medicine. The next grow is dedicated to him, I already committed to that, but I would appreciate it if you, especially, paid close attention to this one....

Be sure to tune in to my next journal.

Peace, Dave. And best... as always.

lordjin said:

Yes. You nailed it. That's the most important thing.

But look, that 323Cheezy guy is gonna donate a couple of cuts for me to start my next grow... (Like I really need to tell you that with my attention-whore ass plastering it all over my journal) It's gonna be a heavy indica OG, perfect for medicine. The next grow is dedicated to him, I already committed to that, but I would appreciate it if you, especially, paid close attention to this one....

Be sure to tune in to my next journal.

Peace, Dave. And best... as always.

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I think I understand your plan now, Jin. People just helping each other out without exchanging money at all? I'm tempted to make a smart Alec remark about Communism, but you guys are too nice. Actually I'm a proud Socialist, which is a political party based on helping out your neighbor in need and everyone pulling together for the benefit of humanity. My grandpa was a Socialist since the Depression. He was the only one in his family who had a job during the Depression, so he took in his sister and his brother's whole family and was the bread winner for them all, not to mention his own family. Good for you, man. You have my greatest respect.

lordjin said:

Yes. You nailed it. That's the most important thing.

... but I would appreciate it if you, especially, paid close attention to this one....

Be sure to tune in to my next journal.

Peace, Dave. And best... as always.

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Oh, I definitely will follow it. I love reading your journals. Great entertainment for me! Plus I learn a lot from you.

Although I wouldn't characterize my beliefs as strictly Socialist per se, I've identified deeply with some of its proponents.

there's a part of me that's still a red-blooded Capitalist, however, and I would like to see someday a realized, defined socio-political philosophy that is somewhere between... taking only the best parts of Socialism and a free market society. Impossible? Probably. But dare to dream.

I think 323Cheez is hitting me with clones tonight. I'm gonna be running around like a chicken with my head cut off tonight.

lordjin said:

Although I wouldn't characterize my beliefs as strictly Socialist per se, I've identified deeply with some of its proponents.

there's a part of me that's still a red-blooded Capitalist, however, and I would like to see someday a realized, defined socio-political philosophy that is somewhere between... taking only the best parts of Socialism and a free market society. Impossible? Probably. But dare to dream.

I think 323Cheez is hitting me with clones tonight. I'm gonna be running around like a chicken with my head cut off tonight.

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Hey, don't let anyone tell you that Socialism & Capitalism can't coexist. Germany does both very well, thank you. The Germans export just as much as China does, but the German workers are highly paid and well educated. Health care for everyone. Their Social Security system makes ours look like a fuckin' joke. The government requires that every company's board contains at least one labor union rep. All of the Social Democracies of Northern Europe are economic powerhouses. I'm a Capitalist as well, I just don't buy into the extreme philosophy that "a totally free market regulates itself." Nonsense. Sensible gov't regulations are necessary for Capitalism to even work. The lack of regulations and lack of enforcement of them were two of the main causes of this god-awful recession that we're in. So I would say that a hybrid system (like we had before Reagan) is actually necessary for a healthy gov't and economy. Don't get me started on that!

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Sounds like you're about to start your next grow pretty soon. Woo-hoo! Good luck, man! I can hardly wait for your new journal.

daveroller said:

Hey, don't let anyone tell you that Socialism & Capitalism can't coexist. Germany does both very well, thank you. The Germans export just as much as China does, but the German workers are highly paid and well educated. Health care for everyone. Their Social Security system makes ours look like a fuckin' joke. The government requires that every company's board contains at least one labor union rep. All of the Social Democracies of Northern Europe are economic powerhouses. I'm a Capitalist as well, I just don't buy into the extreme philosophy that "a totally free market regulates itself." Nonsense. Sensible gov't regulations are necessary for Capitalism to even work. The lack of regulations and lack of enforcement of them were two of the main causes of this god-awful recession that we're in. So I would say that a hybrid system (like we had before Reagan) is actually necessary for a healthy gov't and economy. Don't get me started on that!

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Sounds like you're about to start your next grow pretty soon. Woo-hoo! Good luck, man! I can hardly wait for your new journal.

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Correct you are. And lets not forget about the Scandinavian countries or even Canada. All these places cling closer to a socialist philosophy and would serve as a good model for us.

I think I should have said i would love to see a realized hybrid system materialize in the US someday. No offense meant to Germany or the others. Lol.

Sounds like you know your shit, Dave. When it comes to politics, I'm intensely liberal... My liberalism has even been called 'barbaric' by some. Lol. But not only do I read you loud and clear, you're actually singing my song.

I ate the last 3 ganja cookies the other night, the ones that I baked for my hospital stay. Been here for about a month now. Took this photo of myself after they started to take effect (cropped to preserve anonymity):

Can you tell from my eyes that the cookies worked? I was fuckin' stoned! I would never be able to hide being high. It took 3 hours before I felt anything at all, but when it did hit me it was really great. I kept forgetting where I was for a few milliseconds every now and then. I also lost track of my limbs. For example, I lifted my right hand and looked at it while moving my fingers and it felt like I was looking at someone else's hand. I couldn't feel it unless I touched something. It was a really different high from smoking pot, but just as good if not better.

But the best effects were that it took away my nerve pain and it made me sleep like a baby all night. My back had been hurting pretty bad for days, but after getting high the pain was completely gone! I normally always have at least some pain. And I never sleep more than 4-5 hours at a time. But I slept for a good 7 hours that night and felt refreshed when I woke up. I'm SO glad that I baked these cookies!

daveroller said:

I ate the last 3 ganja cookies the other night, the ones that I baked for my hospital stay. Been here for about a month now. Took this photo of myself after they started to take effect (cropped to preserve anonymity):

Can you tell from my eyes that the cookies worked? I was fuckin' stoned! I would never be able to hide being high. It took 3 hours before I felt anything at all, but when it did hit me it was really great. I kept forgetting where I was for a few milliseconds every now and then. I also lost track of my limbs. For example, I lifted my right hand and looked at it while moving my fingers and it felt like I was looking at someone else's hand. I couldn't feel it unless I touched something. It was a really different high from smoking pot, but just as good if not better.

But the best effects were that it took away my nerve pain and it made me sleep like a baby all night. My back had been hurting pretty bad for days, but after getting high the pain was completely gone! I normally always have at least some pain. And I never sleep more than 4-5 hours at a time. But I slept for a good 7 hours that night and felt refreshed when I woke up. I'm SO glad that I baked these cookies!

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I'm glad to hear that.

Uh, yes. Are you high? Let me see your eyes... let me see your eyes... Lol. Yup, you're high.

The grow is going good, Dave. Thanks again for watching my journal.

lordjin said:

I'm glad to hear that.

Uh, yes. Are you high? Let me see your eyes... let me see your eyes... Lol. Yup, you're high.

The grow is going good, Dave. Thanks again for watching my journal.

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You betcha' Jin! Watching your grow is my main entertainment here.

daveroller said:

You betcha' Jin! Watching your grow is my main entertainment here.

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Thanks again. I'll try to make it a good update tonight.

Got home from the hospital last Friday. Opened up one of my mason jars of this LSD weed and noticed that it's really dry and crumbly now. I haven't had a chance to open the jars for over a month to let any air in.

Anyone know what might cause this?

At least it got me super high. I overestimated how much I'd need 2 nights in a row, so zonked out watching tv and couldn't wake up until way after my wife went to work. I need to take it easy on the smoke until my tolerance builds up a little.

just been reading through your whole journal for the past hour or two, thought it was really good and well updated. plant looked good, had a slight problem before with airy bud like yours and realize now that its due to the light being too close like yours so thanks for that : ) Growing some LSD myself and 35 days in, looking similar to yours at the same stage, only began posting photos today but will be updating regularly. Have a look if u got the time, any advice would be appreciated.

https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/396484-we-grow-halal-shit-420.html