Defoliation Opnions Needed! Pics Provided!

Should this plant be trimmed up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 31.3%

  • No

    Votes: 11 68.8%
  • Total voters
    16
Jakeee

Jakeee

Active Member
To whoever reads this post; Good morning, and thank you for taking your time to share your advice. I greatly appreciate it.

For starters, this plant here is an Aurora Indica(feminized) seed-to-harvest grow. Currently operating in a 4-6 closet space under a 600watt(276eq) Viparspectra LED.

Temps: 74 F day. 70 F night.
Humidity: steady 45-55%
Good CO2 Flow
Good Air Flow
Day 5 of flower

This is my first Grow using LST and Super-Cropping. My first grow using any techniques, truthfully. There are only 6 branches coming off the trunk, each producing about 20 colas each. I have read a good amount on defoliation during flowering,and how the results are tremendous. However, I also have reputable growers like Kerovan who stay away from any leaf removal.

Could I get some more opinions just to get a solid base arguement for defoliation during flowering and how it pertains to MY plant, not necessarily the plants YOU have grown.


The pictures provided don't clearly show, but there are plenty of colas not receiving light.

Cheersbongsmilie
 

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upnsmoke13

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It'll end up with you trying it, to see if it "works" for you.
I felt it helped my upper buds stay denser, while eliminating the small,airy lower buds. Not saying I didn't have any, I had less.
 
neckpod

neckpod

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Jakeee said:
To whoever reads this post; Good morning, and thank you for taking your time to share your advice. I greatly appreciate it.

For starters, this plant here is an Aurora Indica(feminized) seed-to-harvest grow. Currently operating in a 4-6 closet space under a 600watt(276eq) Viparspectra LED.

Temps: 74 F day. 70 F night.
Humidity: steady 45-55%
Good CO2 Flow
Good Air Flow
Day 5 of flower

This is my first Grow using LST and Super-Cropping. My first grow using any techniques, truthfully. There are only 6 branches coming off the trunk, each producing about 20 colas each. I have read a good amount on defoliation during flowering,and how the results are tremendous. However, I also have reputable growers like Kerovan who stay away from any leaf removal.

Could I get some more opinions just to get a solid base arguement for defoliation during flowering and how it pertains to MY plant, not necessarily the plants YOU have grown.


The pictures provided don't clearly show, but there are plenty of colas not receiving light.

Cheersbongsmilie
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I trim the bottom of each branch prob 2/3 as light does not get this low and trimming your little popcorn buds will do you in.
Take the bottom 1/2 to 2/3 off every main branch about a week and half before you flip as to give the plant time to recover before flowering.

look up lollipopping it seems harsh but i hate trimming tiny buds and imo does increase the size of the bud at the top of the plant.

I would not touch anything at the top of the plant as it just isn't needed and will more than likely hurt yields.

But everyone to their own!

Happy Growing
 
William1976

William1976

Well-Known Member
Jakeee said:
To whoever reads this post; Good morning, and thank you for taking your time to share your advice. I greatly appreciate it.

For starters, this plant here is an Aurora Indica(feminized) seed-to-harvest grow. Currently operating in a 4-6 closet space under a 600watt(276eq) Viparspectra LED.

Temps: 74 F day. 70 F night.
Humidity: steady 45-55%
Good CO2 Flow
Good Air Flow
Day 5 of flower

This is my first Grow using LST and Super-Cropping. My first grow using any techniques, truthfully. There are only 6 branches coming off the trunk, each producing about 20 colas each. I have read a good amount on defoliation during flowering,and how the results are tremendous. However, I also have reputable growers like Kerovan who stay away from any leaf removal.

Could I get some more opinions just to get a solid base arguement for defoliation during flowering and how it pertains to MY plant, not necessarily the plants YOU have grown.


The pictures provided don't clearly show, but there are plenty of colas not receiving light.

Cheersbongsmilie
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I defoliate 3rd week of flower. I trim enough to get light to all bud sites and good air circulation. I use to be a newb and bought into the "leaves are solar panels" bit, but what I have found is you end up with a lot of nice top buds and a lot of unripened bottom ones and a whole shit ton of leaves to trim. I started doing one good trim third week of flower then maintain the rest of grow. I don't go crazy with it but like I said, just enough for light penetration and air flow. I've done it ever since.
 
auto1dwc

auto1dwc

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It does look like every top is getting a descent amount of light. Wait until they stretch abut during flower then remove some older sun leafs to elimate shadows on lower buds or tops.
 
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KryptoBud

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Here's a couple good video's on how and when to defoliate. Fast forward to the end of the second video and look how HUUUUUUGE those bottom buds are with all that extra light. everyone should be doing this.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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William1976 said:
I defoliate 3rd week of flower. I trim enough to get light to all bud sites and good air circulation. I use to be a newb and bought into the "leaves are solar panels" bit, but what I have found is you end up with a lot of nice top buds and a lot of unripened bottom ones and a whole shit ton of leaves to trim. I started doing one good trim third week of flower then maintain the rest of grow. I don't go crazy with it but like I said, just enough for light penetration and air flow. I've done it ever since.
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Really? Photosynthesis takes place in those solar panels. Are you denying centuries of accepted scientific research?
Leaves are the engines of the plant. If you're not getting good enough light penetration then get more powerful lights, grow smaller plants, train your plants differently, etc... I get huge rock hard buds and hardly any fluff without the need to trim a single leaf as do many people.

https://sciencing.com/similarities-solar-cell-photosynthesis-3733.html
Similarities of Solar Cell and Photosynthesis
Both solar cells and plants harvest energy from sunlight. Photovoltaic solar cells collect sunlight and change it into electricity. Plant leaves gather sunlight and convert it into stored chemical energy. Both solar cells and plants are doing the same job, but they do it in different ways.

I can't make it any simpler than this: http://photosynthesiseducation.com/photosynthesis-for-kids/

The Process of Photosynthesis
Photosynthesis takes place in the leaves of plants. The leaves are made up of very small cells. Inside these cells are tiny structures called chloroplasts. Each chloroplast contains a green chemical called chlorophyll which gives leaves their green color.

  • Chlorophyll absorbs the sun’s energy.
  • It is this energy that is used to split water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen.
  • Oxygen is released from the leaves into the atmosphere.
  • Hydrogen and carbon dioxide are used to form glucose or food for plants.
Some of the glucose is used to provide energy for the growth and development of plants while the rest is stored in leaves, roots or fruits for later use by plants.




 
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xtsho

xtsho

Well-Known Member
KryptoBud said:
Here's a couple good video's on how and when to defoliate. Fast forward to the end of the second video and look how HUUUUUUGE those bottom buds are with all that extra light. everyone should be doing this.
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Are you serious? There's nothing on those butchered plant's the guy is harvesting. I looked at some of his other videos and they were all nutrient burned plants with tiny buds. I wouldn't do anything that guy is doing. I don't understand why he's even posting that nonsense on youtube.
 
auto1dwc

auto1dwc

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We know all that,but trimming has been proven as a benefit in quite a lot of ways. Also there is proof of this available and also I have tried it myself with 2 autos grown at different times but the same seeds from the same batch, I didn't touch the first one I just let her grow, but on the second one I trimmed at certain periods through the grow and there was a big difference in quality of lower mugs.
Scroog was introduced to help put light all over the plant and create a wider canopy but it is also recommended that you strip off old or useless sun leaves .
Plus this has benefits with trimming at harvest, a lot less nutes to flush at the end, better air circulation etc.......
 
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KryptoBud

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xtsho said:
Are you serious? There's nothing on those butchered plant's the guy is harvesting. I looked at some of his other videos and they were all nutrient burned plants with tiny buds. I wouldn't do anything that guy is doing. I don't understand why he's even posting that nonsense on youtube.
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I think it's a good example of bad advice. The same shit advice you can find on these forums daily. Leaves block light causing larf, flushing for white ash wtf that means, xx amount of days in dark b4 harvest, or add molasses for sweeter tasting bud.

Good bud requires good genetics, a good environment and the ability to keep it healthy. Voodoo priests, shaman, or animal sacrifice not needed.
 
xtsho

xtsho

Well-Known Member
KryptoBud said:
I think it's a good example of bad advice. The same shit advice you can find on these forums daily. Leaves block light causing larf, flushing for white ash wtf that means, xx amount of days in dark b4 harvest, or add molasses for sweeter tasting bud.

Good bud requires good genetics, a good environment and the ability to keep it healthy. Voodoo priests, shaman, or animal sacrifice not needed.
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I just realized you were being sarcastic with your earlier post. I actually thought you were serious and was scratching my head.
 
Buba Blend

Buba Blend

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Two threads about defoliate going side by side.
I'll post to both at the same time.
1st time growers and future growers are reading this.
Anyone posting think a 1st time grower should defoliate or remove fan leaves that are healthy?
If No. How many grows should a newbie have under his belt before doing it. 2, 3, more???
 
kingtitan

kingtitan

Well-Known Member
Jakeee said:
To whoever reads this post; Good morning, and thank you for taking your time to share your advice. I greatly appreciate it.

For starters, this plant here is an Aurora Indica(feminized) seed-to-harvest grow. Currently operating in a 4-6 closet space under a 600watt(276eq) Viparspectra LED.

Temps: 74 F day. 70 F night.
Humidity: steady 45-55%
Good CO2 Flow
Good Air Flow
Day 5 of flower

This is my first Grow using LST and Super-Cropping. My first grow using any techniques, truthfully. There are only 6 branches coming off the trunk, each producing about 20 colas each. I have read a good amount on defoliation during flowering,and how the results are tremendous. However, I also have reputable growers like Kerovan who stay away from any leaf removal.

Could I get some more opinions just to get a solid base arguement for defoliation during flowering and how it pertains to MY plant, not necessarily the plants YOU have grown.


The pictures provided don't clearly show, but there are plenty of colas not receiving light.

Cheersbongsmilie
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this plant looks great, don't go fucking it up
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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xtsho said:
Are you serious? There's nothing on those butchered plant's the guy is harvesting. I looked at some of his other videos and they were all nutrient burned plants with tiny buds. I wouldn't do anything that guy is doing. I don't understand why he's even posting that nonsense on youtube.
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Holy Christ ... 80% of scrog unused ..... Popcorn strain ....
Once water weight dries , what's gonna be left??????

Light way way too far away ....
Why scrog it , and not use all of it ?
Look like he vegged only a few weeks before flip.

No Bueno
 
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