Defoliation - removing fan leaves for higher yield

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KryptoBud

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jmoneygrows said:
No need for name calling bud. Just giving my personal feedback. If you wanna knock on someone go read a yahoo article and troll there. Nothing but good vibes here. but maybe that's a tall order for some people.
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How do you have so much personal experience and feedback? Three days ago you made a thread looking for help remember? Day 26 flower. Is this normal? "hey guys,
First grow here and wanna know" People like you are a problem on these boards. Promoting shit you know nothing about as fact, is how all the myths you see on these forums start.
jmoneygrows said:
Just don't go telling someone to learn botony just bc you're too scared to try it and gather your own proof.
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26 days of flower (1st grow) your plants have barely started to bud, how could you have proof of anything? I've been growing this plant for about 10 years now. I've tried most of the shit you're going see on these forums as far as training techniques go. People that claim stripping all the leaves off a plant increases yield are full of shit period. There might be some instances that thinning a plants foliage indoors can be beneficial for airflow, scrog, or making it easier to water,whatever. That's not what this is, OP is telling people to cut all the leaves off to gain yield, when others back that info as fact it becomes a problem. There are people who might actually use it medicine who depend on the yield to last until their next harvest. Considering it's posted in the newbie forum people reading it don't know any better.

If calling someone on bullshit when you know it's bullshit is trolling sign me up. Personally I'm not concerned with good vibes from a bullshitter with bad info.
 
jmoneygrows

jmoneygrows

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Krypto i appreciate the response, and your experience with growing. thats great! though this is my first grow, I've had the pleasure of seeing commercial grows first hand, and worked on a few myself. Though i lack experience, doesnt negate the fact that ive taken part in a massive defoliation for a crop worth a considerable amount of money. I live in socal, these things arent exactly uncommon. If you want to be salty and call me out on my personal posts for help, go for it. Makes no difference to me. Just supplying what i've seen/done in the past. cheers
 
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KryptoBud

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jmoneygrows said:
Krypto i appreciate the response, and your experience with growing. thats great! though this is my first grow, I've had the pleasure of seeing commercial grows first hand, and worked on a few myself. Though i lack experience, doesnt negate the fact that ive taken part in a massive defoliation for a crop worth a considerable amount of money. I live in socal, these things arent exactly uncommon. If you want to be salty and call me out on my personal posts for help, go for it. Makes no difference to me. Just supplying what i've seen/done in the past. cheers
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Thats great I watch football every weekend, doesn't make me a pro bowler.
It doesn't matter how much money or where you're from. Being in socal means nothing, you stating that by itself shows your lack of experience. I'm not salty or shitting on you for being on your first grow we all start somewhere. You're getting shit for bumping a year old thread to spread bad info with little to no experience in the subject and telling others to do it. If you've been running these big money grows would you really need to ask about a simple nute problem in your leaves? And at 26 days of flower why does your plant still have leaves if it works so well? There's a reason why these threads end with no real explanation or side by side comparison.



It a pretty simple, no leaves no transpiration, no trans no pull, no pull no water, no water no food, no food no grow. The leaves are not there for decoration. Look at the OP's first post
1) Leaves grow back 5 to 7 days later???????? Doesn't make much sense.
 
jmoneygrows

jmoneygrows

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oh brother... I get it, you like to hear yourself speak. Never said anything about being a "pro" nor made any claims other than I've tried it/been a part of it. Great pics, I took biology in high school too! As for my girls, they've been defoliated. The level in which they have is probably not what you're thinking. I leave top fans on and clear out spacing in between for light/aeration as well as my current scrog. totally makes sense about a plant sweating, but only thru fan leaves? Why not their sugar leaves as well?
leaves will grow back depending on when theyve been removed. As im sure you know, at a certain point theyll stop making them to focus on those... what are they called again.. starts with a B bongsmilie
 
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Dr.Nick Riviera

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jmoneygrows said:
Krypto i appreciate the response, and your experience with growing. thats great! though this is my first grow, I've had the pleasure of seeing commercial grows first hand, and worked on a few myself. Though i lack experience, doesnt negate the fact that ive taken part in a massive defoliation for a crop worth a considerable amount of money. I live in socal, these things arent exactly uncommon. If you want to be salty and call me out on my personal posts for help, go for it. Makes no difference to me. Just supplying what i've seen/done in the past. cheers
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STFU :dunce:
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jmoneygrows said:
Krypto i appreciate the response, and your experience with growing. thats great! though this is my first grow, I've had the pleasure of seeing commercial grows first hand, and worked on a few myself. Though i lack experience, doesnt negate the fact that ive taken part in a massive defoliation for a crop worth a considerable amount of money. I live in socal, these things arent exactly uncommon. If you want to be salty and call me out on my personal posts for help, go for it. Makes no difference to me. Just supplying what i've seen/done in the past. cheers
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I CALL BULL SHIT! I CALL BULL SHIT!

NO commercial op I personally ran, OR saw...EVER did "massive" defoliation!

Smaller harder nugs is the result. You do increase your weight yield a bit but, the nugs are not what you would say have "bag appeal".......This "massive" defoliate thing needs to be buried.
 
jmoneygrows

jmoneygrows

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Dr. Who said:
I CALL BULL SHIT! I CALL BULL SHIT!

NO commercial op I personally ran, OR saw...EVER did "massive" defoliation!

Smaller harder nugs is the result. You do increase your weight yield a bit but, the nugs are not what you would say have "bag appeal".......This "massive" defoliate thing needs to be buried.
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You're an idiot....
the end.
 
Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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jmoneygrows said:
You're an idiot....
the end.
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That's MR idiot to you!
I've been doing this longer then you've been alive!

It's been pointed out that this is your first actual grow.....Eh?

So what the fuck did you "do" in this commercial op you "allegedly" worked at?
I know "I" never hired inexperienced workers off the street! No one I know that has, or had comm ops did either!

Now pour some beer on your hand, get your date drunk, and go fuck her!
Take your :spew: elsewhere.

THE end!

*Ignore*
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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New Grower 420 said:
i see people say its basic botany well maryjane has never really been studied in depth by botanists diffrent rules may apply, there just alota factors that havent been studied or proven on bolth sides of the argument.
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Yes it has.

Why do you young people think that history didnt happen?

Its one of the worlds oldest commercial crops. Wars have been fought over the control of it. Armies marched and sailed and flew due to it. Of cause its been studied by botanists and scientists, from all over the world for centuries..
 
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KryptoBud

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Never said anything about being a "pro" nor made any claims other than I've tried it/been a part of it.
It works. Seen it with my own eyes. Done it with my own hands :)
Way waaaay better yields.

jmoneygrows said:
totally makes sense about a plant sweating, but only thru fan leaves? Why not their sugar leaves as well?
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LOL You tell me. Cutting off large fan leaves to allow the sugar leaves that are a fraction of the size to do the job increases yield?

jmoneygrows said:
leaves will grow back depending on when theyve been removed.
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When do they stop growing back? One more time, how does cutting off leaves forcing the plant to regrow them increase yield?

jmoneygrows said:
2 weeks after my first defoliation and you can't even tell anything happened... except for the bottom nugs being more dense. Defoliation is a method used for many plants including cotton
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26 days into flower of your first grow, how much denser were your buds and what are you comparing them to? Again, if the leaves grow back so you can't tell anything happened what's the point? Spending time and energy regrowing leaves that you cut off two weeks prior increases yield? Please explain how that works. I'd love to hear it unless it's the usual leaves are blocking light from the buds bro science.

jmoneygrows said:
But if I took two identical plants, in the same grow room, and defoliated one and not the other, and saw an actual GPW difference, how could I not think to myself that this actually works?
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You're 26 days into YOUR FIRST GROW so you didn't do that did ya.

jmoneygrows said:
As im sure you know, at a certain point theyll stop making them to focus on those... what are they called again.. starts with a B bongsmilie
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According to you they're growing back the leaves you cut off, that'll stop at a certain point. What point is that? Is it strain dependent? So far the only thing that you've come up with that starts with a b is bullshit. If you wanna cut off your leaves have at it, but telling other people to do it without any firsthand knowledge of it is a shitty thing to do.
 
Poontanger

Poontanger

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Enjoyable thread.............but , if you remove large fan leaves , & they grow back in a few weeks ,isnt that energy ,producing new leaves , better used elsewhere?
 
jmoneygrows

jmoneygrows

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KryptoBud said:
Never said anything about being a "pro" nor made any claims other than I've tried it/been a part of it.
It works. Seen it with my own eyes. Done it with my own hands :)
Way waaaay better yields.


LOL You tell me. Cutting off large fan leaves to allow the sugar leaves that are a fraction of the size to do the job increases yield?


When do they stop growing back? One more time, how does cutting off leaves forcing the plant to regrow them increase yield?


26 days into flower of your first grow, how much denser were your buds and what are you comparing them to? Again, if the leaves grow back so you can't tell anything happened what's the point? Spending time and energy regrowing leaves that you cut off two weeks prior increases yield? Please explain how that works. I'd love to hear it unless it's the usual leaves are blocking light from the buds bro science.


You're 26 days into YOUR FIRST GROW so you didn't do that did ya.


According to you they're growing back the leaves you cut off, that'll stop at a certain point. What point is that? Is it strain dependent? So far the only thing that you've come up with that starts with a b is bullshit. If you wanna cut off your leaves have at it, but telling other people to do it without any firsthand knowledge of it is a shitty thing to do.
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And telling people not to do it while never having tried it is what exactly?
Chill out, smoke a bowl, and get off my D
Unless you've tried it , I don't want to hear it.
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