Dj Short's F-13 Grow Journal

Jd Short

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I've decided to backcross the #4). (at least) and perhaps as many as two others with the F4 Blueberry stretch indica father. I noticed some serious skunk musk, and berry funk coming off of most of em the other day. #9). reeks of funk spice, and skunk berry citrus.

I've chosen this backcross because it's simply the easiest way to re/create and re/produce some of these genetics for public use and because that male has proven it's ability to produce quality offspring time and time again.

However, ideally at some point down the road when the correct male presents itself, perhaps in some of the back-stock, I'll make an attempt at crossing at least the #4). with a male that may be more suitable for duplicating the original genetics. I'll most likely choose this same backcrossing route for the Grape Krush, Old Time Moonshine, Moonshine, and True Blueberry, using the F4 Blueberry stretch indica father.
 

eastcoastmo

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Nice work mate, sounds like a great project!
Please though, if you make beans, please send some to me in Australia, I'd love to work with these genetics. I've grown the blueberry for almost 20 years and it's still my favourite. Keep up the good work mate, some quality work you are doing :)
 

TheChemist77

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Thanks,
Jd Short.
how about midsweeksong.com??
 

Countrybuddin

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Jd Short

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Why did these boys get pulled out of flower never to be heard or again. Hummmm I wander?
Just to be clear on your form of communication I'm going to point something out. Bare with me here cause this is literally just to show you that you may find the answers you seek easier to come by if you observe a little closer the way you're communicating. Flies with honey kinda thing.

The first part of your inquiry, which is stated as a question, but not actually summed up as a question is actually a statement. The second part of your statement, isn't actually a question, but rather a statement that's structured as an "open-ended accusation" with a question mark. If there is a question that you genuinely and sincerely seek the answer to, try to be a little more open to the answer before you ask the question, even if the answer you hear isn't the one you expect or want to hear.

Ok, human formalities aside.....to answer your question the males were never heard form again because I have an f4 pre-'98 Blueberry male that works just fine and I have access to thousands more F13 seeds if my point of reference actually dictated that I wanted or desired an F13 male to work, which I do not.

The males were donated to a 3rd party before they started dropping pollen. I never followed up to see if pollen was acquired form the males donated, but I highly suspect that it was.
 

Countrybuddin

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Just to be clear on your form of communication I'm going to point something out. Bare with me here cause this is literally just to show you that you may find the answers you seek easier to come by if you observe a little closer the way you're communicating. Flies with honey kinda thing.

The first part of your inquiry, which is stated as a question, but not actually summed up as a question is actually a statement. The second part of your statement, isn't actually a question, but rather a statement that's structured as an "open-ended accusation" with a question mark. If there is a question that you genuinely and sincerely seek the answer to, try to be a little more open to the answer before you ask the question, even if the answer you hear isn't the one you expect or want to hear.

Ok, human formalities aside.....to answer your question the males were never heard form again because I have an f4 pre-'98 Blueberry male that works just fine and I have access to thousands more F13 seeds if my point of reference actually dictated that I wanted or desired an F13 male to work, which I do not.

The males were donated to a 3rd party before they started dropping pollen. I never followed up to see if pollen was acquired form the males donated, but I highly suspect that it was.
gallery_13094_5701_148793.jpg gallery_13094_5701_1757673.jpg im really sorry bro. I guess im just a little butt hurt that my once favorite strakn above all and the only genetics i bred with turned out to be crappy ass lab expirement colchicine treated blueberry genetics that always found a way of rearing theyre ugly ass mutant head as in the case with this beautiful vigorous whorled phylo foxtailing never ripening freak and her sister that barely made an ounce. It just pisses me off that you are still defebding these shitty genetics much less breeding with them. Your never going to repair the damage done in tve dna. As well as the selection of backwards hermies. Damnitt man. Im gonna buy some of your stuff and give it a go. I bet money all tgese freak things your seeing are just remnanta of cheating all over again.
 

Jd Short

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View attachment 3992549 View attachment 3992550 im really sorry bro. I guess im just a little butt hurt that my once favorite strakn above all and the only genetics i bred with turned out to be crappy ass lab expirement colchicine treated blueberry genetics that always found a way of rearing theyre ugly ass mutant head as in the case with this beautiful vigorous whorled phylo foxtailing never ripening freak and her sister that barely made an ounce. It just pisses me off that you are still defebding these shitty genetics much less breeding with them. Your never going to repair the damage done in tve dna. As well as the selection of backwards hermies. Damnitt man. Im gonna buy some of your stuff and give it a go. I bet money all tgese freak things your seeing are just remnanta of cheating all over again.
I'm not sure what you've got going on here in the pics, they're hard to see and decipher, but it looks like a pretty simple case of having made shitty selections for inbreeding and inappropriate research and development on the progeny before moving forward, if you ask me.

You know inbreeding makes mutations if done improperly.....right?....and that in each filial generation (depending on what selections were made in the previous generations) there is a potential for unknown recessive traits to show, right? In other words, you never know when or what recessive traits or complications such as variegation or whorled phyllotaxy may show up, especially with such an undocumented cultivar as cannabis. Seems plenty of other people have no problem breeding with these genetics for generation after generation. If Dj's genetics are the only ones you've ever bred with and you've bred those genetics for multiple generations I'd say it's most likely you bottlenecked and mutated your line all on your own.
 
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CannaBruh

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@Countrybuddin please, Grow and document happy plants and we can have a better idea, there's no way to tell much of anything from the photos.

I regret not holding both wizard and blueberry, both were fabulous, many more in the vault that will get their turn in the rotation but these are something that you miss when not around.
 

Jd Short

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View attachment 3992549 View attachment 3992550 im really sorry bro. I guess im just a little butt hurt that my once favorite strakn above all and the only genetics i bred with turned out to be crappy ass lab expirement colchicine treated blueberry genetics that always found a way of rearing theyre ugly ass mutant head as in the case with this beautiful vigorous whorled phylo foxtailing never ripening freak and her sister that barely made an ounce. It just pisses me off that you are still defebding these shitty genetics much less breeding with them. Your never going to repair the damage done in tve dna. As well as the selection of backwards hermies. Damnitt man. Im gonna buy some of your stuff and give it a go. I bet money all tgese freak things your seeing are just remnanta of cheating all over again.
I'm confused at how you made an f1 from two inbred sister strains consisting of the exact same lineage? If Dj's genetics are the only ones you used for your cross, I'm wouldn't actually call that an f1 (not that a person can't fuck up the selections making an f1 either...but I digress) considering everything publicly released from Dj's line are either f4's or f5's consisting of the exact same lineage. If they are two inbred Dj strains...sorry....not f1 in my book.
 
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