do my leaves look ok ?

ahh ok .. to keep it low .. when adding the salt ..

I use the "lucas fomular" wher you only use micro and bloom ..

it is on half strenges and I even go mild on that normaly as Im allways affraid to over do it (all grow I have been on the low side in nuts I belive)

so I schouldnt worry about runnoff .. even if it is 5 ?
tho i guess it make sens .. cos soil test the other day toald me it was spot on .. between 6 and 7 ..

hope to see signs of bettering over the next few days ?


edit: read the other thread .. do I have to boil water and put the salt in fist ? I did just add it in the watering can ?

yes you do have to boil the water and the add the salt first

Slipon said:

erm .. sorry . think you did mix it up a bit .. that 7,5 PH is from the water plant/out of my tab ..

I correct it to 6,5 ofcurse ..

runn off is a bit low tho .. belive it schould be 5,5 -6 .. its more like 5 ? maybe 5,5 dunno .. might just be to many nuts ?
(note: that was from my flush I testet it .. I also made a soil test other day .. that did show between 6 and 7 .. so schould be ok ..

leme show you what I use/have:

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sorry a bit shaky .. but Im sure you can see what I use .. just got the Epsom salt:

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just gave em a teaspoon in my 2 gallon water can .. and 6ML of micro and 12ML of bloom and PH it to 6,5 useing the PH down flower ..

lets ee how they react .. I guess a few days and signs schould show if it is the solution ?
I reccon it cant do any damages ..

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you have hydroponic nutes
not sure how well these will work in soil

may be someone else has done this before and tell you if it works or not

can boath be used in Hydro and soil .. but in soil/terra you only add half strenges ..

but Im useing them with a Fomular (the Lucas Fomular) wher you only use Micro and bloom ..

day 63 from seed and day 18 in flowering .. I belive ? kind lost count .. but very close ..



actualy looking pretty good to day ..

day 64:




still looking good ..

can do with watering evry seccon day now .. seems to work ..

also .. dunno if it is me ? or it is the flush/Epsom salt that helpd ?

but pots can now hold 1,5 gallon of water each insted of 1 gallon as it did before ?

dunno or it is maybe just Bc. Im more carefull and take my time now when watering so they get as littel stress as possible ?


another thing .. how long time schould I expect to go before they are finish ?
it is voilator kush from barneys .. I think it said 8 weeks to finish on the packed ? .. is that from 12/12 starts I wonder ?

Im 19 days in to flowering/12-12 .. bud sites are ½ a inch or so all white hairs ... but is begining to grow/thickens a bit ..

what is normal ? 6 weeks more maybe .. just so I have a idea ..

Yes that's normal, and every strain is different. White Widow looks AMAZING right about the stage of flower you're at, with huge thick white hairs sticking out, slightly wavy...but Northern Lights looks stupid and generic in this stage for some reason. It's always different.

If the breeder info says 8 weeks, it means 8 weeks from the day they started flowering, not 12/12. But you can get a cheap littler microscope and start checking the trichomes for when they start turning milky. That's how you'll get it spot on.

+ WitchDoctor + said:

Don't let them get dry enough that the leaves droop at all though. Go by the weight of the pot. Remember what it feels like when it's just about dry. You're gonna want to check on them twice a day if you can, to make sure they don't dry out too much.

Good to hear the new growth is looking better already

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Hey doc y is it a bad thing if ur fan leaves start to droop during flowering?

dvs1038 said:

Hey doc y is it a bad thing if ur fan leaves start to droop during flowering?

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It's not bad for them to droop down a little, but what I meant was when they basically lay down flat from a lack of water, which had just happened to him about a week before that.

hey Doctor .. about the soil mix for my next girls (I think I desided on 2 in pure coco with the rest of my hydro nuts and 2 in organic soil mix)



this is some of the stuff I can get at my local hydro store .. can get more so ask if ther is some you dont see that I will need ..

just found some of the stuff I guess will be importent to me (note .. it seems like my hydro store like plagron ? is it sumthing you know of ? is it wort anything ?)

but I guess if you think its ok ...I will buy my way to a good soil mix ...rather then use a lot of time and energy and gas and money for shipments to safe a few bucks and then end up with wrong stuff maybe ?)


here is a sample of what I can get and prices is also ok I think:



CocoStar Coconut Bale 70 L



Plagron All-Mix best poting soil for organisk grow.
20 % spagnum mos, 35 % have mos, 10 % organisk worm casting, 30 % perlite og 5 % Pre-Mix.


Plagron Cocos

This 100% biological substrate meets the most stringent quality standards, does not contain any fertilizers and is suitable for all types of liquid nutrients.

Plagron Cocos produces the highest yields in combination with the unique Plagron Cocos nutrients.




Perlite no. 3



Plagron Basalt meal contains: (among other things) 43% silicon, 22% aluminium, 11% iron, 10% calcium, 4% magnesium, 2% sodium and 1% potash.



Plagron Maerl. This tried-and-tested natural soil conditioner is extracted from coral reefs in the Atlantic Ocean. Plagron Maerl (algae calcium) is rich in magnesium and trace elements and has an extremely high acid binding value



Plagron Trace Elements


Plagron Alga-Press



BioHeaven/Bio-Bloom/grow


Guanokalong Bloom
NPK 2-0,5-2


Guanokalong Grow
NK 6-3


dry Bat Guano 1 kgorganic





and my plant school also have some nice (twise the normal price) soil with sand and clay in it for a ok price (25L for 12$)

what do you reccon ? can I use some/any of it and will I need sumthing els ? make a suggestion on what you would add/mix of them things if you had them to choose from ..

+ WitchDoctor + said:

Yes that's normal, and every strain is different. White Widow looks AMAZING right about the stage of flower you're at, with huge thick white hairs sticking out, slightly wavy...but Northern Lights looks stupid and generic in this stage for some reason. It's always different.

If the breeder info says 8 weeks, it means 8 weeks from the day they started flowering, not 12/12. But you can get a cheap littler microscope and start checking the trichomes for when they start turning milky. That's how you'll get it spot on.

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hmmm ... same same .. I guess ... tomato ...potato


did 12/12 and 2 days later I saw white hairs .. a week in it was all over and now I got nice small ½ inch buds all over ..

but I will try to haverst one plant a bit early (20% brow hairs) and other a week or so later (80% brown)

+ WitchDoctor + said:

It's not bad for them to droop down a little, but what I meant was when they basically lay down flat from a lack of water, which had just happened to him about a week before that.

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Ahh gotcha, yeah cause I usually push my plants till I start to see the fan leaves slightly wilt then I hit em with water, since its too much of a pain to pull em out of the closet where i got em if i wanna c how heavy the pots r.

a few pics from to day .. lights on ..

day 60 from seed .. 20 days in to flowering:





reccon ther will be sumthing like 40 days left ..

a littel update ..

day 68 from seed (22 days in to flowering .. looking good ..





flowering nicely .. lots of resin have formed on the tops allready .. started 2 weeks in or so .. flowers came after a few days after 12/12 ...


but the "not so good looking" plant have problems ..agin .. with curl bud leaves .. the new small leaves between the buds curl down ..




have used hours searching and googling trying to find a reason .. but evry guid tell me the same .. could be to many nuts .. or just to much N.
or to few .. or over watering .. or lack of water .. or rootbound .. or Cal/MG def. or PH problems ..

I give up .. did try to flush with no real improvement (maybe new grow do look slightly better ?)
Epsom salt did work on the light greenish coulor and made them look better .. but not so much with the curling ..

they grow well and look helthy .. just them small bud leaves that curl down ??

so now I came to the conclusion .. that it might be rootbound (seems to stalk me) or PH problems .. PH problems that might lock out some nutriens .. so I reccon best cure would be fresh soil ..

but +3 weeks in to flowering .. and I allready repot em 3 times and they are now in 7 gallon pots !

came up with a idea ..



so what do you think of my DIY 2 pot grow system ..... for soil

hopeing it would stress it the lest as it mostlikely only have 5 weeks left in flowering .. and also so I did`t have to take the hugh plants out of them 7 gallon pots .. and most importent .. so I did`t have to get like +10 gallon pots .. and a lot of soil .. had a few gallon of biobiz light mix left ..

so did just cut a 4x4 inch hole in the big pot .. filld the small and put it in .. did allmost tape em together .. but then I was thinking of air .. and pots do seems to fit well together and light cant realy get down ..

so lets see if them root can find ther way down (did see some thin white roots when I cut the hole)

and lets see if it helps .. runn off from them two pots together war +6PH .. a lot better then the 5 - 5,5 I had ..


p.s.

dont think I will do it to the other plant though (dont have more soil or a pot that size) as it do look ok ..

if it get worse on that one .. and I see real improvment on the other I might reconsider .. but for now I will wait and see ..

Sounds like a plan. I like the idea, creative. I would have cut out the whole bottom of the pot along the bottom side of it though, instead of the 4x4 hole, but if it works that'd be a lot better than replanting. Plants still look good either way, real good.

I've been busting my ass on this worm composter lol. I posted some pics so far on my journal. My back and shoulder are killing me though....I'll be glad to be done with this project by the weekend and start composting on a bigger scale.

yea well was also my fist idea ..

but I tell you .. its pretty hard .. to stand in a 3x3 space ... alone .. with that plant .. wile you cut the bottom !

also .. it is pretty tick plastick ..
had to use a "steam" cutter for outdoor trees ..
so I just ended up cutting between them holes in the bottom .. did`t want to cut to many roots or stress it to much either ..

a nice squar 4x4 hole in the center .. dont think roots will have any problem finding ther way ..

also .. I will still be able to reuse the pot (I will just add a small pice of some perforatet plate over the 4x4 hole)

lets se and yea they do look good .. I just hate to see them small curl bud leaves .. and I would also hate to have done so much work just to see the end result shrink Bc. it have problems the last few weeks .. better to correct it now ..

btw

do you know this product ?


Plagron Maerl.

This tried-and-tested natural soil conditioner is extracted from coral reefs in the Atlantic Ocean. Plagron Maerl (algae calcium) is rich in magnesium and trace elements and has an extremely high acid binding value. Plagron Maerl offers plants an abundance of essential minerals. The acid binding value is extremely high. Plagron Maerl is ideal for soils with an excessively low pH value. A correct pH level in the soil ensures that the nutrients in the soil can be maximally absorbed by the plants.. Plagron Maerl contains: carbonic acid magnesium calcium, acid binding value 54% and 9% magnesium oxide, soluble in mineral acid. The dosage of Plagron Maerl depends on the type of plant and the pH value of the soil.
Usage in full soil: 5 to 12 kg per 100 square metres.

Usage in potting soil: 250 to 500 grams per 1000 litres, depending on the plant being grown and the acidity level of the potting soil.



can get it to day (actualy I think I will ... as it only cost 18$ and I am driving allmost past the hydrostore on my way to get more hash)will ask the guy in ther if they have dolomite lime (dont see it on ther homepage) or if I can use this insted to correct/raise my PH in my soil ..


and yea I know how it is .. when I start a project I also work way to hard .. and cant stop untill Im done (not like at work )
but keep going and I guess your allmost ther .. make your wife give you some masages

will see if I can find your journal ...

The link is in my signature at the bottom of my comments.

No, I've never heard of it. I stay away from ocean stuff normally. Are you gonna be using it just to raise your pH or for the other benefits as well?

lol .. yea I notice I have been looking at your jurnal before so had the "link" ...

looking good .. tho I dont know much about it .. Im sure it will be good reading once I begin to grow organic


as for the Maerl ..

about the same as dolomite lime just another source .. and what my hydro/grow store have it seems .. and use them self they said ..

I will mostly/only use it for getting my PH up agin (that was the hole idea of getting it)

but I guess them trace elements wont hurt eiter ..

lets see . I used 12 grams in total .. got 488 grams left guess its nice enough to have some PH up/lime in the house only cost like 18$

Yea, that's what I was gonna say was that lime is probably cheaper. But that stuff sounds great actually.

yea ..

will mostlikely also add some to my soil on my next grow ..

not in my fist pot/cups .. but when I transplant from small cups with light mix to a 3 and 5 gallon pot I will make a soil/coco mix .. will add a littel of this .. for the lime and trace elements ..


btw

what PH do you water with in a coco/soil mix ? is it the same as soil 6,5 ?