Do people really want free markets?

cageybee

Active Member
would anyone care if foreign pharmaceutical companies provided "drugs" to American people without an oversight? what if these "foreign pharmaceutical companies were "foreign agents" that would conduct experiments on American people? etc, etc.

anyway, i think free markets are not possible because of monopolies. once the monopolies created, then the government must intervene and free markets end. if not, monopolies start to screw people over.
 

smokertoker

Well-Known Member
Yes, I think I should have access to drugs made in other countries. Who says america has the best drugs???
Conduct experiments??? similar to the way they aready do it, or like swapping some other drug in an asprin bottle and selling at asprin???
 

cageybee

Active Member
Yes, I think I should have access to drugs made in other countries. Who says america has the best drugs???
Conduct experiments??? similar to the way they aready do it, or like swapping some other drug in an asprin bottle and selling at asprin???
what about monopolies?
 

smokertoker

Well-Known Member
How do you think the monopolies would come about? Capitolism would run full throtle and our drug companies, that are rapping people with outragous costs, would need to be competive or go under, that's just the way it is. I wish hospitals would advertise prices so I could shop around if I know I need to have something done that isn't an emergency.
 

cageybee

Active Member
How do you think the monopolies would come about? Capitolism would run full throtle and our drug companies, that are rapping people with outragous costs, would need to be competive or go under, that's just the way it is. I wish hospitals would advertise prices so I could shop around if I know I need to have something done that isn't an emergency.
ok, but what about monopolies? companies don't have to be merged to fuck people over. they can just cooperate on prices and fuck people over. therfore, government intervention is needed and free markets are not possible.
 

cageybee

Active Member
What makes you think a monopoly is going to occur?
ok, say me and you own 2 cell phone companies in the US. we could merge or we could just cooperate on pricing the services to make sure that we don't compete and don't kill our business and make people pay for it.

currently, there are laws against cooperation of pricing and laws to regulate monopolies. those laws were created to protect people from evils of monopolies. therefore, free markets are not possible. the bigger the economy gets - the bigger government intervention and regulation becomes.
 

smokertoker

Well-Known Member
If the people are really getting f*cked by these companies, somebody will step in to please the people. There are local cultivators here that talk about how much they charge so they can keep prices constant, not f*cking each other or hurting each other, comfortable for all. That is how buisness works.
 

cageybee

Active Member
If the people are really getting f*cked by these companies, somebody will step in to please the people. There are local cultivators here that talk about how much they charge so they can keep prices constant, not f*cking each other or hurting each other, comfortable for all. That is how buisness works.
its very naive to think this way. the capitalists don't give a shit about anyone and will use everything to their advantage to make more money.
 

smokertoker

Well-Known Member
your F*n right. But how is that goign to cause a monopoly, that is what's going to keep things in balance. Capitalists want money, so if someone sees an opportunity to make money they would step in where the monopoly is. The only way a monopoly would occur is if they can truley beat everyone elses prices, and then would you as a consumer complian? probably not. If they then tried to jack up their prices new compainies would step up to try and flourish.
 

medicineman

New Member
If the people are really getting f*cked by these companies, somebody will step in to please the people. There are local cultivators here that talk about how much they charge so they can keep prices constant, not f*cking each other or hurting each other, comfortable for all. That is how buisness works.
Uhhhh scuse me, but the people are getting fucked royally by the oil companies, can you say Monopoly?
 

smokertoker

Well-Known Member
can you say American aided monopoly??? Truley there is no monopoly on oil though. Many countries/companies dig oil. Move to venesuala and you could be paying like $.05 per gallon. Thank America on how much our oil costs.
 

medicineman

New Member
can you say American aided monopoly??? Truley there is no monopoly on oil though. Many countries/companies dig oil. Move to venesuala and you could be paying like $.05 per gallon. Thank America on how much our oil costs.
Are you saying the American oil companies are not monopolizing profits on oil? we live and work in America, not Venezuela. And I've considered Venezuela as a place of refuge, beach property is rather cheap there.
 

cageybee

Active Member
your F*n right. But how is that goign to cause a monopoly, that is what's going to keep things in balance. Capitalists want money, so if someone sees an opportunity to make money they would step in where the monopoly is. The only way a monopoly would occur is if they can truley beat everyone elses prices, and then would you as a consumer complian? probably not. If they then tried to jack up their prices new compainies would step up to try and flourish.
no one can step up to monopolies because they make the cost of entering the business outrageous and too risky for anyone to invest. that's why we have anti monopoly laws.

also, if we did not have anti-monopoly laws, companies from same industries would not compete - they would just merge and cooperate on prices to make sure that they don't kill their business and profits.
 
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