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Do you have to decarb before baking?

Discussion in 'Cooking With Cannabis' started by ayr0n, Sep 4, 2014.

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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    Aww. :-) very sweet of you to say that.
    I want to try the gummies too...they look so good.
    What did you make with all those goodies ^^up there? The wafer cookies a base for the rest? Mmmm
     
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    shishkaboy

    shishkaboy Well-Known Member

    The wafers are covered with canna chocolate to make kief kat bars.
    Between canna butter and canna chocolate, the possibilities are endless.
    Just bought an ice tray I will use as a chocolate mold, gonna try rolo type caramels with the chocolate shells
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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    oooh yeah! I have those ice trays too lol...squishy bottom, hard sides? Chocolates will do well in them, but caramels don't want to come out. But since you doing the Rolos chocolate covered, it should work great. They pop out best if frozen or well chilled.

    ...Kief Kat bars! love it!
     
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    shishkaboy

    shishkaboy Well-Known Member

    Lol, same exact trays, so funny. Im all "But, how did you know". Cause they sell them in the dollar store maybe.

    Did a little culinary arts baking training and I know we made candy but I cant remember so long ago. I just made a lb of budder, so I should be giving the caramels a go real soon.
     
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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    Got mine at Raleys or walmart i think.
    You shou check out Ina Garten's fleur de sel caramel recipe. It calls fie 5 tablespoons of butter but i use half a cup
     
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    Diabolical666

    Diabolical666 Well-Known Member

    Heya @ayr0n ...I found this and was going to post it in the forum, but saw this thread you made and thought it would go good here.. not sure if you found your answer in this thread .this helped me alot to understand the process so I'll share:

    Take a look at the mechanism and the variables behind decarboxylation, to make sure you get higher the next time you make edibles. THC, and all cannabinoids, starts out with an acid group that prevents it from directly affecting the mind if consumed raw. This carboxy group evaporates off when heated, so cannabis mostly gets consumed cooked, smoked or vaporized. Juicing raw cannabis has its medicinal benefits, but if you want to get high you’ll need to cook it, and you’ll need to do it right so you don’t waste it.

    Genes regulate everything from the color of your hair to how strong your pot is, and if it has somegood genes, then those buds can have up to 30% pure THCA, or THC-acid. In order to enjoy the fruits of the land to their fullest, you need to efficiently decarboxylate THCA to the active THC.

    Anyone that has ever cooked with pot for the first time remembers being nervous of messing it up. If you never have messed it up than power to you, but most people have at least once. Those that have cooked and baked with pot enough times always come back with the same conclusion about decarboxylation: longer times at lower temperatures work the best.

    Scientists in Holland tried to figure out what the optimum temperature for decarboxylation in order to some day scale up the reaction for making cannabis-based pharmaceuticals. They landed on easy numbers to remember: “110 °C [230 °F] for 110 minutes.” Some of the best mainstream methods of making cannabudder came about from people reaching a similar conclusion, but by trial and error. Everyone perfects their own personal methods, but lower temperatures for a longer time can yield up to 95% of your THC.

    Decarboxylation also needs to happen in a slightly acidic environment. The pH of plain cannabis material is perfect, but the process won’t yield as high if you have already mixed it with basic baking soda or baking powder. This is why cannabis baking pros pre-decarboxylate and extract cannabis oil into a fat, which can later be used for baking into whatever they want.

    THCA turns to THC catalyzed by an acid, with some gently heating to drive the reaction, and gives off CO2.

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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    I could hug you right now :hug::hug::hug: great info Diabolical.

     
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    Texas(THC)

    Texas(THC) Well-Known Member

    oh shit kief kat bars I got to try that


    this recipe I use calls for a whole cup of butter
    I believe it is a bigger batch though
     
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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    I get about 24 caramels out of it Texas. A bigger batch would be great though if you wanna share your recipe ;)
     
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    Texas(THC)

    Texas(THC) Well-Known Member

    Ingredients:
    • 1 cup cannabis butter
    • 2 ¼ cup brown sugar
    • dash of salt
    • 1 cup light corn syrup
    • 1 (14 oz.) can sweetened condensed milk
    • 1 tsp. vanilla
    Directions:
    Melt butter; add brown sugar and salt. Stir until combined. Stir in light corn syrup. Gradually add milk; stir constantly. Cook and stir over med heat, until candy reaches firm ball stage (245F), about 12 to 15 min. Remove from heat; stir in vanilla, pour into 9″ by 13″ pan. Cool, cut and wrap.
     
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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    Thanks Texas! I am going to be trying this soon
     
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    shishkaboy

    shishkaboy Well-Known Member

    The brownies were a huge hit
     
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    nickers

    nickers Active Member

    I don't decarb I use coconut oil crock pot method, and my cookies and brownies send you on a trip for 5-6 hrs , and more than 1 brownie or cookie you will be junk
     
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    shishkaboy

    shishkaboy Well-Known Member

    I didnt decarb before either. Now I do. Never going back. Gigantic difference.
     
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    nickers

    nickers Active Member

    How bad is the smell on decarb
     
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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    no more than when you make the butter/oil
     
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    shishkaboy

    shishkaboy Well-Known Member

    Reeks. Not any more than the extraction tho. Cooking the trim in the butter is the worse part. I do it all in the wee hours of the mornin. Incense lit
     
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    fumble

    fumble Well-Known Member

    lol...my house smells like a dispensary pretty much all the time so I'm not too worried about the smell lol.
     
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    nickers

    nickers Active Member

    make my butter in mason jars to avoid the smell
     
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    greenghost420

    greenghost420 Well-Known Member

    i wanted to try a decarbed batch then a undecarbed batch and see how much difference there really is. i want to use a racy sativa and try to trip. does decarbing make the effects more sleepy?
     

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