Blunted 4 lyfe
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i believe Apple broke into the phone and to save face their saying a third party broke in, either way our security is more important than hiding your porn data, imo.
Do you think Apple gave in or was it really a third party who broke into phone?
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Olive Drab Green
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Fuck that. Those who sacrifice freedom for a little temporary safety deserve neither freedom nor safety. Don't be a sheep.
Blunted 4 lyfe
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Do you really think you have privacy? That train left the station long ago, Snowden revealed that shit, stop being so naive!
B4L
NLXSK1
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They probably didnt even break into the phone. The government wants access to our most encrypted information. They werent going to get it in this case and would have lost.
So they pulled the lawsuit...
Olive Drab Green
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Better than surrendering it willingly and being complicit in my own metaphorical and literal imprisonment.
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Blunted 4 lyfe
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I'm sure a lawsuit had nothing to do with how they got the information, it's easier now to get information than it was back in the 50's & 60's.
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NLXSK1
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If it was so easy why were they suing apple to force them to help out?
well, either..
1. apple gave in
2. the password was figured out
when i saw the headline this morning these were both my thoughts..i did not read the story.
with certain information passwords are not hard to figure out. people are stupid/lazy when it comes to them..even terrorists.
plus there's software to assist in determining passwords.
so i'm going to go with 'they figured it out'.
ChesusRice
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I think they knew how to get in to it all along and needed a way to make it
1 legal to use it in further investigation
2 not to tip off anyone that their Iphones and Androids could be hacked into
1 legal to use it in further investigation
2 not to tip off anyone that their Iphones and Androids could be hacked into
NLXSK1
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That would be valid except the FBI totally screwed the pooch by changing the computer password and thus preventing an automatic backup.
So yeah, it is moe, larry & curly running this thing.
ChesusRice
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The FBI didn't change the password. The county did.
NLXSK1
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These are the types of people we want to trust with encryption breaking software?
ThickStemz
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Normally I'd agree with you but in this instance I can't.
The fbi was asking Apple to take the data off of the phone and give it to them. The data, not the means of breaking the encryption.
Apple would have had control and everyone's security would have been safe.
If the third party story is true, the necessity of getting this data drove someone to develope a key. Now this may may be in the hands of the fbi or some third patry who who may not share Apple's desire to keep us secure in our privacy.
Each situation must be taken care by case. Here we had a dead terrorist, and no court wouldn't have issued a warrant to get that info.
We all lost here.
Olive Drab Green
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I think if they give the Feds said info, what's to stop them for asking for your shit or my shit regarding minor bullshit crimes? Where does it stop? 15 minutes of traveling unaccounted for isn't an acceptable reason to force a company to break its own encryption. It's not even significant info. They know the main details of the situation.
ThickStemz
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It was my understanding they wanted call logs, that type of data. Maybe not calls specifically, but contacts, browser histories, emails, stuff like this.
I'm aware they can do it for anything that is a result of due process. A warrant backed by public opinion should have compelled Apple. Now they have lost control. There would be no public opinion to get a drug dealers info.