Do you use dyna gro? Need some advice..

Dr.Nick Riviera said:

I use r/o water, I grow several different strains, i never have a cal/mag def. with just foliage pro

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smokebros said:

Well goddammit, I dunno then. I'm speaking anecdotally so please take my statements with grain of salt because apparently it can be done.

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Dr.Nick Riviera said:

honestly, i use to think the same thing, then @homebrewer showed me that i didn't need the cal/mag. Been cruising along without just fine.

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smokebros said:

Do you use magpro, or what am I missing? I love me some homebrewer and uncleben info... what are you doing to your plants/environment/medium to get by without supplementing calcium and magnesium when using DG?

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smokebros said:

Dyna Gro is highly concentrated so less is more. If you are growing in coco I'll post a recommended feed chart below. This feed chart was created by Costa Mesa Steve, so I want to give credit where it's deserved. His Feed Chart was developed using Growmore Nutrients, however it works perfectly for Dyna Gro.

Just one other thing to note - the highest my PPM's ever go are about 800, and even then there are only a few strains that can routinely feed that heavy in my experience. You'll want to gradually work your way up.

By the way - when you add 5ML calmag to your RO water it's going to increase the PPM's significantly so don't be scared of that. Follow what I have down below and I can damn near guarantee you'll be really successful with DG. Once you get comfortable then you can start tweaking things.

**I'm assuming you are using R/O water**
If you are using tap water then cut the Calmag down to 2.5ML or even 0 depending on your tap water PPM's.

**If using coco then feed this every watering**
**If using soil then feed this recipe 1x per week, with normal watering in between of just 5ML calmag and RO water + 2.5ML of Recharge**

Week 1 Veg
2ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag (always add 2nd)
2.5ML Protekt (always add first)
2.5ML Recharge (go buy this stuff, it's worth it's weight in gold)

Week 2 Veg
2ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
2.5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 3 Veg
3ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 4, Week 5, & Week 6 Veg
4ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 1 Flower
4ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 2 Flower
5ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 3 Flower
6ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
2.5ML Protekt (last week using Protekt)
2.5ML Recharge

Week 4, Week 5, Week 6, & Week 7 Flower
6ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
2.5ML Recharge

Week 8
2.5ML Recharge

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ganjafather27 said:

Awesome info and detailed! Thanks for taking the time to write this up. Is recharge a dyna gro product? I haven't used that before.

But this go around I'm having some great success and my feeda are pretty similar to what you posted, except no Cal mag and s more foliage pro. I am having 0 issues with calcium Def or any micro deficiency from what I can tell, so I think I may ditch the Cal mag for good.

Thanks again man! And check out my grow log if ya wanna see how I'm doing!

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smokebros said:

Dyna Gro is highly concentrated so less is more. If you are growing in coco I'll post a recommended feed chart below. This feed chart was created by Costa Mesa Steve, so I want to give credit where it's deserved. His Feed Chart was developed using Growmore Nutrients, however it works perfectly for Dyna Gro.

Just one other thing to note - the highest my PPM's ever go are about 800, and even then there are only a few strains that can routinely feed that heavy in my experience. You'll want to gradually work your way up.

By the way - when you add 5ML calmag to your RO water it's going to increase the PPM's significantly so don't be scared of that. Follow what I have down below and I can damn near guarantee you'll be really successful with DG. Once you get comfortable then you can start tweaking things.

**I'm assuming you are using R/O water**
If you are using tap water then cut the Calmag down to 2.5ML or even 0 depending on your tap water PPM's.

**If using coco then feed this every watering**
**If using soil then feed this recipe 1x per week, with normal watering in between of just 5ML calmag and RO water + 2.5ML of Recharge**

Week 1 Veg
2ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag (always add 2nd)
2.5ML Protekt (always add first)
2.5ML Recharge (go buy this stuff, it's worth it's weight in gold)

Week 2 Veg
2ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
2.5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 3 Veg
3ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 4, Week 5, & Week 6 Veg
4ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 1 Flower
4ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 2 Flower
5ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
5ML Protekt
2.5ML Recharge

Week 3 Flower
6ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
2.5ML Protekt (last week using Protekt)
2.5ML Recharge

Week 4, Week 5, Week 6, & Week 7 Flower
6ML Foliage Pro
5ML Calmag
2.5ML Recharge

Week 8
2.5ML Recharge

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goldberg71b said:

I've have been using DG for years. Don't use their feed schedule. I like grow and foliage pro as well as protekt. Ive stopped using mag pro and as time has gone on I've used less and less bloom. Use what your plants need not what a feed schedule tells you. I found that you need to use grow or foliage pro through the stretch. I wouldn't touch bloom until completion of the 3rd week of flower. At this point I'd still be mixing my nutes the same way I always have with grow or foliage pro (300ppm). Then each week I'd slowly raise that PPM with bloom. I'd never exceed 500 ppm. I'd reach 500 ppm during the 5th week and I'd maintain 500 ppm through about week 8. Then I'd start decreasing the bloom to decrease the PPM to desired level. I don't flush just slowly decrease ppms.

I'm surprised you're not complaining about yellow leaves. If you follow their feed schedule and start bloom day 1 of 12/12 generally yellowing leaves sets in prior to week 4. I learned plants need more N than most bloom products provide. It took a while and plenty of tweaking. But I figured it out and was able to keep nice healthy plants through completion.

A few months ago I started a convo with another grower. Who I don't know personally. But I've been seeing his posts for years and from what I've read I felt this guy makes sense and he's got decades under his belt for experience. He's explained to me that the issue I was facing wasn't only lack of N. But there's to much P also. That excess P supposedly makes it harder for the plants to get N. In other words he believes although my plants were healthy I really hadn't fixed the problem. I was only masking it by my increased N.

It sure seems logical so logical I decided to run a test. I used jacks classic citrus on some plants and on the others foliage pro and NO BLOOM. I'm sorry to say that I've had problems. My test included 3 strains. One of which I've had most leaves turn yellow with both nutes. I should have raised the PPM earlier than I did. I could go back to mixing grow or foliage pro with bloom. But even though I fucked up this batch I think it's all on me and I'm going down the right path. So I'm going to run my next set with jacks classic only and I'm going to raise my PPMs as I have in the past.

Since both these sets of nutes have more N than by old combo of grow and bloom I didn't think I'd have to adjust my PPM as much as I have in the past. My take away from this test is that was a bad assumption. So I expect much better results next time.

Foliage pro is stronger than grow so it will take less to get the job done. Those feed schedules usually run strong. Never use them. Start out with less than they say and raise it if more is needed. In veg I'd give 3 ml a gallon of grow with protect and RO water. The ppm comes out to about 280. That's full strength veg nutes for me for WELL established plants. Week 1 5mls is WAY to strong. Since I've got a cycle going I've always got plants in all phases. So I'd always have full strength veg nutes (280 ppm) on hand. For week 1 I'd cut my full strength veg nutes with RO water until the PPM was down to about 50. And I'd dilute less and less until it was well established.

I've got a blulab combo meter they work great. If it says 650. It's 650. Use less and get the PPMs where you want them. Much lower.

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