Does vertical growing need less watts

Michiganjesse

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I have
I agree with you 100% there...the reason for the tube is that I collect the heat from the a/c and dehui where the intake of my fan is and extract all the heat sources in one shot, plus I don't have a choice since I run a sealed room. I inject pure O2 in the root zone when the pump kicks on at 2-3 cfm for 15 mins..and co2 at1500 during lights on..

I might not have explained my yields clearly earlier..I basically pull between 12-18 grams per plant depending on strain, x230-240 plants on a full room grow. Under 4 x 400 watt hps and mh 50/50.

Average of 15g per. X 230 =3450
3450 ÷1600=2.15gpw

I m not your average or conventional grower, and love to experiment! I have failed but learned many times..but I am super happy with my set up, I just throw what I know out there, and others can pick and choose what is convenient for their situation. I just loved learning from people that pushed the envelope, and knowledge is power...and in our case..killer yields! Cheers :)
A bunch of led panels and ufos about 1200 watts and a 300 watt cfl can i set that up in vert? Going to get a 600 hps cool tube when i can afford it. Just gutted and remodeled my whole house top to bottom been broke for the last 6 months but I'm almost done I'll have funds in a few months
 

ttystikk

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I have

A bunch of led panels and ufos about 1200 watts and a 300 watt cfl can i set that up in vert? Going to get a 600 hps cool tube when i can afford it. Just gutted and remodeled my whole house top to bottom been broke for the last 6 months but I'm almost done I'll have funds in a few months
Yes
 

sezar29

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20161016_203433.jpg As promised, here's some pics of my latest crap.lol...crop..20161016_225330.jpg 14767672720051774122877.jpg, 20161016_203318.jpg 1476767358687-1062949002.jpg 1476767532608-1018535339.jpg 20161016_195335.jpg 20161016_225454.jpg 20161016_202217.jpg there is also a picture of the next 80 clones that were taken off flowering plants at 21 days. They are having that monster cropping effect. I don't know if I like it or not, does anyone know if I trim it to grow as a main Cola, if it will tend to Branch out anyways? Or will the extra energy from the monster cropping hormone be directed into the main Cola?
 

sezar29

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Results are 5632 grams wet..I will post dry results after curing plus pics.

750 watts on a vertical light mover, for 6 weeks, and then I set the ballast on overdrive at 1150 watts for the last 2 weeks.

I had 8 strains and they were all pretty much flipped 2 12 hours between 4 and 6 inches. I harvested at 61 days, which was a happy medium between myindicas hybrids and sativas.


I lost 17 plants due to a pump failure. Plus it's stress them out and stunted them for a week or so.

I ran Advanced Nutrients Sensi series. Plus all the fancy shit that they sell to go with it, I feel like an idiot, but I just had to try it. Next time I will be making my nutrients from scratch myself. For a fraction of the cost.
 

ttystikk

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Results are 5632 grams wet..I will post dry results after curing plus pics.

750 watts on a vertical light mover, for 6 weeks, and then I set the ballast on overdrive at 1150 watts for the last 2 weeks.

I had 8 strains and they were all pretty much flipped 2 12 hours between 4 and 6 inches. I harvested at 61 days, which was a happy medium between myindicas hybrids and sativas.


I lost 17 plants due to a pump failure. Plus it's stress them out and stunted them for a week or so.

I ran Advanced Nutrients Sensi series. Plus all the fancy shit that they sell to go with it, I feel like an idiot, but I just had to try it. Next time I will be making my nutrients from scratch myself. For a fraction of the cost.
Interesting stuff there, I'd like to see more pics of your setup.
 

sezar29

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Let me know if you have any questions about the setup. I'm not sure exactly which part you want to see . Keep in mind that it's built on the cheapest budget possible. I just have $100 sub pump and 2 garden hoses jumping into the top of each box. The nutrients make their way down for levels and needs box AZ nutrient film technique. But my last crop was owpressur Arrowoponics1476821164506-1074263652.jpg
Interesting stuff there, I'd like to see more pics of your setup.
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Greenthumbskunk

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View attachment 3807786 As promised, here's some pics of my latest crap.lol...crop..View attachment 3807788 View attachment 3807792, View attachment 3807796 View attachment 3807794 View attachment 3807798 View attachment 3807802 View attachment 3807805 View attachment 3807807 there is also a picture of the next 80 clones that were taken off flowering plants at 21 days. They are having that monster cropping effect. I don't know if I like it or not, does anyone know if I trim it to grow as a main Cola, if it will tend to Branch out anyways? Or will the extra energy from the monster cropping hormone be directed into the main Cola?


Hmmmm????? Lmao

Not sure what to think of this. Did i miss something where you had a problem with your grow? Do you sell that of what is in your pics???
 

Greenthumbskunk

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I'm not sure what to tell you...is it always like what exactly? For yields? Quality? Looks? Let me know..thanks

This is a c99 file photo.
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You have a good set up on your engineering of your set up but your finished product has some serious issues.
Not real sure whats going on with it.
One time i had an outdoor plant that looked like that and i sent pics of it and dude told me it was a "runt plant" didnt really produce bud but looked just like yours. It had crystals on the leaves but not any normal looking bud. It had colas bigger than gal milk jugs. Cutting off those buds off the plant it produced something like 12-15 lbs if i remember right. I had a guy buy it for $25 per ounce. Still got you some medicine but man was it some messed up looking product. I was going to throw it all away. All the clones off it was identicle to the mother. So it was all tossed.

I have grown c99 for around 10 years (took this spring and summer off though) , its good bud and can yield very well. The iced grapefruit pheno is very nice for me.

To be honest with you if all your bud looks like that you need somebody you can trust to show you how to grow some quality weed. With nice fat beautiful buds. You have some talent for some out of the box ideas. Like to see you produce quality bud as well.

I want you to produce bud like this random file photo here off the web. And im sure you can, just those pics are not the best representive of your hard work.
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cindysid

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I like your design and you've come up with some very innovative ideas, many of which I would like to try, but the density of your buds is not that great. I think they need more light
 

ttystikk

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Aha! These are monster cropped! THAT'S why your buds look weird, bro. They never had a chance to revert to their vegetative state.

Your plants need to fully reveg and then you can properly flower them.

The good news is that they can be blown down into concentrates with good results.
 

platt

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nah, and it doesnt looks weird, its just stressed tissue, stressed growth, hormone flow disbalances... whatever instead monstercroppIn damage (regardless it looks thats happening, i just wont admit it today^)...
It looks more like a hard deal with gravitropism+apical dominance but who knows it really?.. What is sure is the plant itself tend to buffer biotic+abiotic stress in the first 5 minutes right after the stress input, aprox 2 days before we realize about it.

Anyway sezar here they are good vertical sog growers, dont be shy, ask whatever and go for the next run like theres no tomorrow
 

Fevs

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Only problems with a set up like this is this.. if your fan fails, your plants are going to set fire within 5-10 minutes. I'd never grow like that for safety reasons. Still killer yields. I'd rather use a bigger area and grow safely myself.

Didn't heath robinson quit growing vertically and switch to horizontal?
 

ttystikk

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Only problems with a set up like this is this.. if your fan fails, your plants are going to set fire within 5-10 minutes. I'd never grow like that for safety reasons. Still killer yields. I'd rather use a bigger area and grow safely myself.

Didn't heath robinson quit growing vertically and switch to horizontal?
You forget that heat rises. It won't cook the plants, as it rises up and away from them.
 

sezar29

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I'd like to see pics of finished product.

I still think your styrofoam stadium is straight genius, bro.
Here are some dry pics...the pic of the larf plant was one of 4 c99 phenos that will be def shit canned, but I do realize that there is a better variation than the one I do have, and I appreciate all the input and positive comments! I will try my best to put the pics in this order respectively.

Candy (delicious seeds )
Master kush x Hindu Kush
Jack (delicious seeds)
C99 pheno 4 can t remember which company.
Money bush (heavyweight)
Money maker (strain hunters)
Blue cheese
Strawberry Cheese cake (heavy weight)
Black Domina? ?

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