Dry Vapor Cooling. Do you and why?

ddave

Member
Dry Vapor Cooling.... Figured I'd start a discussion into the pros and cons of vaping without the use of water to cool vapor. Yes, that includes room temp, warm and hot water too.

Why bring it up? Flavor. Actually, the reduction of flavor... not a good thing when in modern times most have a very broad selection of tasty herbs to choose from. And that's exactly what happens when you use water to cool off or filter your vapor. Why? Our precious Terps, well, some of them are water soluble. This means flavor loss.

So, what options do you have?
1) Just take it! Hot vapor! (May be ok for a hit or two, but repetitively I prefer it cool please.)
2) Wide AirPaths. Yeah, they can cool hot vapor... but they also dilute the vapor. bleh.
3) Bags? I am not a bag person. Always thought a bag mixed great flavor with abv flavor.
4) Long whip tubes. They work ok. If you like taking two hits, one to clear the first "blank hit".

For me, I dry cool. I do want to experience every bit of taste possible. The flavor variety between strains is simply amazing.

My rotation of vapes at the moment are EQ, Milaana, and VapCap. All dry cooled.

So,
* Have you ever noticed a difference in flavor when using water cooling in relation to not?
* What methods do you use to cool your vapor?
 

Observe & Report

Well-Known Member
I use an Herbalizer and plug the end of the whip into an empty bong. Fill it with the fan before starting a hit. Clear at the end of the hit and let it fill again while holding, no blank hits.
 

ddave

Member
I use an Herbalizer and plug the end of the whip into an empty bong. Fill it with the fan before starting a hit. Clear at the end of the hit and let it fill again while holding, no blank hits.
Fan Assist with volume cooling at the end of the herbie whip... Nice! So your setup looks kinda like this (without the water).

(forgive the resin on the back side of the glass...)

I used this dry as well..... Herbie can generate some nice flavor.
 

Observe & Report

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If you want flavor, the Firefly is supposedly where it is at but I have no experience. Short, stainless steel vapor path that is super easy to get totally clean. In my experience, Crafty tastes better than Herbie. It seems that the shorter and cleaner the path the better the taste.
 

Egzoset

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Salutations DDave,

Dry Vapor... ...water to cool vapor.

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Why bring it up? Flavor. Actually, the reduction of flavor... ... What methods do you use to cool your vapor?
Here's my old concept i called "FogBong!", illustrated right below:




It thought i had solved the aroma/taste issues in a divine manner considering my cannabic stream never even touched liquid water, while for me cooling was never really a problem (and even less here!) - but Dry-Baking Overnizer dryness has been quite a different story i must admit...

My definitive solution has been to pay attention to some most basic element in vaporization: the "Release/Transport Agent", as i called it, because nobody is talking about it, so i had to invent an expression for what that actually is. That's where the vast majority of today's vaporizers, table or portable, all differ from my moddified VaporGenie pipe which adds super-hot gases (H2O + CO2) to the hot air stream collected from around the corona of a clean-burning butane flame. In retrospective my evaluation of the FogBong! concept didn't go too well, it seemed something was missing somehow. IMO it's the fact that H2O and CO2 have superior "specific heat", so it kind of "potentiates" hot dry air, which explains my preference in a "Micro-Bursting" context i think. Etc., etc.

As far as i'm concerned the cold/warm dilema/controversy was also evaluated quite a long while ago:


Time to move on!... :!:

Good day, have fun!! :peace:
 
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