Ducksfoot (Webbed Cannabis) Grow Journal

Hey all, I know I've been absent for a while but I decided to finally start a grow journal from start to finish.

I started some original Ducksfoot seeds about two weeks ago under T5 fluorescent lighting. Goal with this grow is to take these seeds, which are kind of hard to come by, and breed them so I have a nice stock sitting around for future grows. For my growing medium I'm using Fox Farm original soil and I'll be using Happy Frog All Purpose 5-5-5 fertilizer during veg. I tend to like to use the organic stuff just because it reduces the risk of root burn and I feel I get a healthier, better tasting plant in the end. For a CO2 supplement, I like to ferment large bottles of sugar water with some yeast in the closet. It puts off a lot of fizz, which is basically the yeast metabolizing the sugar into Carbon Dioxide. A nice, super cheap way to enrich the air in your grow room.

The cool thing about Ducksfoot is that it has webbed leaves, so if someone finds it during the Veg cycle it doesn't even look like Cannabis, which will be ideal for next year's outdoor grow. Being a legal user, I'm growing 3 out of my limit of six vegging plants under the closet lights. You can only have 3 flowering at a time, so I figure once they start to ripen, I might start my next batch in the little hydro system I have.

Anyway- here are some pics of week one and week two. Please feel free to jump in if you have any pointers you'd like to throw out. This isn't my first grow though, so I'm pretty comfortable with my current methods.

Alright I'm a little behind, but here is week two:

The third set of leaves has just popped up. Notice there would normally be two sets of three leaflets at this node, but instead the plants have two sets of one leaflet each. This is the beauty of Ducksfoot, webbed leaves! I'm also noticing a mutation on one of the plants, it has sort of a cleft- leaf thing going on. I can post some better pictures of the mutated leaf later it if anybody has some advice. I'm thinking it's probably just a mutation since the plant's genes are already predisposed to having odd leaves, but if somebody thinks its a ph or a heat issue or something, feel free to let give input.

Not much has changed with the grow, but I decided I'd throw out an update. A few new sets of leaves are coming in around the bottom nodes and everything is growing like wildfire. To be honest, this is the fastest growing strain I've cultivated before, the roots are already poking out of the bottom of the pots. I've decided that the leaf abnormality on plant 3 is just a mutation, probably the consequence of using a webbed strain. The plants are already quite smelly, which is a nice scent to come home to

I'm surprised at how low in height they are growing considering how well the leaves are coming in already, but I'm not complaining. After all, there is a limited amount of space and light available in an inside closet grow like this, and the more bud it can produce in such a small area the better. Still haven't decided whether to breed these for seeds or just use em for bud, but I think it'll be a good idea to at least get some in case I like it and want to grow them again. I think they'd be PERFECT for an outdoor grow with how discreet Ducksfoot is.

Oh by the way **I am specifically asking you to post any suggestions or feedback you may have**

There looking fantastic!

These look really good. I've never heard of this strain before. I am super interested to see how this turns out. I have a plant growing now that is doing pretty well...still waiting for enough branches to get a clone or 2...Trying to do a perpetual starting with one seed...weed on a budget as it were...lol. I wish you the best of luck in all that you do and your plants look awesome!

Probably want to refrain from breading the defected one though.

Does the webbed leaf continue throughout the life cycle, or does it eventually start producing "normal" leaves?

missnu said:

These look really good. I've never heard of this strain before. I am super interested to see how this turns out. I have a plant growing now that is doing pretty well...still waiting for enough branches to get a clone or 2...Trying to do a perpetual starting with one seed...weed on a budget as it were...lol. I wish you the best of luck in all that you do and your plants look awesome!

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I started off with a harvested revenged plant from outdoors at first. xD

Whoa, interesting genetics! I've always wondered when we were going to start seeing weird-looking and stealthy plants like this. Have you harvested a strain like this before? Subscribed

damn dude if the leaves stay that way the whole time that would be the sickest guerilla growing plant. Man it would take an expirenced stoner to notice that cops would shrug it off it don't even look like weed dude hahah. I'm stoned thats great buddy. I'm subscribe +rep for the neat plant.

abomination said:

Probably want to refrain from breading the defected one though.

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Yeah you have a point. I've been contimplating it though, and this one still looks pretty different from normal marijuana and it's probably a recessive trait. With any luck, I won't have to use it, but these are such rare seeds I won't be able to get more easily. I don't have any left that are pure-breed Ducksfoot besides what I've got growing, so to keep the strain alive, I might have to chance getting a couple of weirdos every now and then. We'll see what's male and female, then I'll decide.

Schmarmpit said:

Does the webbed leaf continue throughout the life cycle, or does it eventually start producing "normal" leaves?

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From what I understand, in true Ducksfoot (that is one that isn't bred in with another webbed variety or normal cannabis), it stays webbed all the way up until flowering. The single leafletts that grow off of buds look normal, but that's only because they are individual leaves. Anything that normally comes in a set of 3,5,7,9 etc will be webbed into one leaf. Very weird looking, where there should be the division between two individual leaves, it almost looks like they are sewn together. One of the plants seems to not be fully webbing, instead every other leaf is "cleffed" into two leaflets.

Someone or Another said:

Whoa, interesting genetics! I've always wondered when we were going to start seeing weird-looking and stealthy plants like this. Have you harvested a strain like this before? Subscribed

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No I haven't man, but I've been tracking this stuff down for a couple years. This strain is so stealthy, it's been cross-bred with a bunch of stuff and the original isn't sold anywhere online. Various general "webbed" varieties are available now as the original becomes less common, kind of like what's happening with Lowryder. Imagine this though... I've got lowryder seeds too, which I also breed. What if... just what if... I could cross-breed LowryderXDuckfoot to make a 2 ft tall, 8 week lifecycle, autoflowering plant with webbed leaves. Talk about stealthy right? That's a project for later on though

Majikoopa said:

Yeah you have a point. I've been contimplating it though, and this one still looks pretty different from normal marijuana and it's probably a recessive trait. With any luck, I won't have to use it, but these are such rare seeds I won't be able to get more easily. I don't have any left that are pure-breed Ducksfoot besides what I've got growing, so to keep the strain alive, I might have to chance getting a couple of weirdos every now and then. We'll see what's male and female, then I'll decide.

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Yes do as you must to preserve the pure genetics!

A few days ago I switched my guys over to 3 gallon smart pots filled with the Happy Frog soil mix. I chose smart pots based on the recommendation of another grower. Basically, a smart pot is made of this fabric that the plant's roots can grow right through and "air prune" themselves off. This way, the roots do not curl back in towards the center of the root ball after hitting the hard pot wall. The idea is that this essentially "fools" the plant into thinking it hasn't run out of root space and to keep growing. What the hell, I decided to give it a try.

The plants are about a foot high each now and I'm noticing something very interesting about their growth patterns. All the secondary branches are still growing like wildfire on each plant as if they'd been topped, which they haven't. This is great because it'll maximize the space used up efficiently in my grow box and the plants will not be held back by the topping process. They are already the fastest growing, hardiest strain I've had the pleasure to grow.

Posted below are some pictures.

Very cool grow journal, subbed! I wonder if this is why we sometimes get funky looking leaves on regular type strains. =D

Hey all, I'm having a little problem with my plants here, but I wanted it to be a seperate post so I might get some advice from you all. The larger fan leaves are developing brown and bright orange spots that become dry and crumbly. None of the younger leaves or fresh growth are doing this, only larger fan leaves on the bottom and middle of the plants. I know that it's not that there isn't enough nitrogen or really any other necessary nutrient in the soil, because I'm using Happy Frog 5-5-5 top dressing and really rich soil that I just added to the smart pots.

I checked the ph of the water I'm getting from the tap here (I set it out to let the chlorine dissipate of course) and it's running an 8, super basic. I've gone ahead and used about 1/8th of a teaspoon of vinegar per gallon of water to balance it around a 6.5 to see if that might change what's happening with the plants. I was thinking maybe it's nutrient lock. It's been a couple days, but it's still happening to some and I checked the runnoff's ph-- its at about a 6.0- more acidic than I am hoping for. Now due to the extra acidity, I'm getting a bit of yellowing on the tips of the new growth.

Anybody got a clue what's up? Let me know if you need additional info to help out.

I'd just keep trying to get your water to about 6.5-7.0 because it sounds like your soil may be at a lower PH like 6.0ish maybe so I'd just keep doing what your doing and see if it evens out. Do you have a soil PH meter? I got one off Amazon.com that does moisture, light and soil PH for about $15 and it seems to be pretty accurate. =)

brownbearclan said:

I'd just keep trying to get your water to about 6.5-7.0 because it sounds like your soil may be at a lower PH like 6.0ish maybe so I'd just keep doing what your doing and see if it evens out. Do you have a soil PH meter? I got one off Amazon.com that does moisture, light and soil PH for about $15 and it seems to be pretty accurate. =)

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That's a pretty good idea. There's a kind I used to have that was reasonably priced, but when I went to the local grow shop, the cheapest one was $40, so I got the liquid PH tester instead. Seems to work okay once I got the hang of it, but you're right I should upgrade to the meter. Thanks man!