DWC Auto flower first Grow

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xitears

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No offense to these guys on here but im seeing a lot of bad advice...... if you want VRZ hmu in a PM ill give you a guide with a what if section. I also would like to see what u are working with in terms of nutes and etc.
 
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NapalmZen

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VRZ711 said:
what type of molasses should i use ? as there is molasses made from different ingredients, some made of pomegranate some made out of other fruits. i have brown sugar will it work instead ?

i am setting up the DWC now, trying to get the best water i can put my hands on.also will start to brew my tea, everything looks good, thanks to you, and im really sorry to bother you always with my questions, again you are the best.
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Try to stay organic.

I use unsulfured black strap made from sugar cane.

Don't apologize. I'm offering help.

xitears said:
No offense to these guys on here but im seeing a lot of bad advice...... if you want VRZ hmu in a PM ill give you a guide with a what if section. I also would like to see what u are working with in terms of nutes and etc.
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I am simply helping him get started. I have a super basic concept of his gear. This conversation is actually three threads.

Most of the advice I'm offering works with 100% for me. But I also have a much different setup.

If you can share info, please share with us all. I love adding to my collection.
 
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VRZ711

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NapalmZen said:
Make a tea based on the Heisenberg method. (Google Heisenberg tea) using your subculture. Refrigerate and save it for when the roots hit the water. Only add it before then if you find root issues. Add only one half to one cup directly to the res. It will last a couple weeks in the fridge.

H2o2 should NEVER be mixed with nutes. I found that out the hard way. I had a bunch of lockouts because of it.

EDIT: It is a waste to add subculture directly to anything. Use the Heisenberg method in a seperate sealable container and make sure you drop in an airstone or you will waste the bennies.

With subculture, I use 1/4 teaspoon of each. The purpose of this method is to make the microbes breed.
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i am brewing the tea 1/2 tsp each B,M also 1 tsp molasses to 0.5 gallon, i guess it will be strong tea.
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and the water starting PPM was 90, after i added 1 tsp each of flora series into 8 gallons of water, my total PPM was 210, PH is 5.7 water temps 65 and trying to keep it this way, it goes to 70 sometimes, room temp is 76, i guess the plants like their new home, they seem happy with the setup, HID is 30 inch away
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NapalmZen

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VRZ711 said:
i am brewing the tea 1/2 tsp each B,M also 1 tsp molasses to 0.5 gallon, i guess it will be strong tea.
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and the water starting PPM was 90, after i added 1 tsp each of flora series into 8 gallons of water, my total PPM was 210, PH is 5.7 water temps 65 and trying to keep it this way, it goes to 70 sometimes, room temp is 76, i guess the plants like their new home, they seem happy with the setup, HID is 30 inch away
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That the mini lights a out of there. You don't need them.

get a cover on your tea. it will foam over.

i make a half gallon with one tbsp of molasses and a 1/4 tsp each of M&B. in the end, so long as it does the job it will be fine.
 
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VRZ711

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NapalmZen said:
That the mini lights a out of there. You don't need them.
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the mini light will be a tree of light later on each node will have 4 big lights, and btw electricity bill is paid by employer, so ill keep 24/7 entire grow as im growing Autos.


NapalmZen said:
i make a half gallon with one tbsp of molasses and a 1/4 tsp each of M&B. in the end, so long as it does the job it will be fine.
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thats a good advise, i covered it on , and kept place for ventilation, when should i add it ? after 24 hours ? or 48 ? as u know the setup im having has no bennies nor H2o2,
 
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NapalmZen

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VRZ711 said:
the mini light will be a tree of light later on each node will have 4 big lights, and btw electricity bill is paid by employer, so ill keep 24/7 entire grow as im growing Autos.

thats a good advise, i covered it on , and kept place for ventilation, when should i add it ? after 24 hours ? or 48 ? as u know the setup im having has no bennies nor H2o2,
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it should be either or with the hps. once full veg starts, then add booster lights.

let it brew for a minimum or 48hrs.

Initially, add about 1 cup to your res for every gallon of water, and then add 1 cup total every 3 days after. If you can, pour a little over the base of the stalk to inoculate the root crown. Your water might get a little cloudy but your roots will stay white and stimulated. When you use tea and practice proper res maintenance you can feel confident your roots will be healthy. By multiplying the microbes this way your products should last a great deal longer. Once you have eradicated slime and simply want protection from future outbreaks, adjust the tea dosage to 1 cup per 10 gallons about once per week.
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NapalmZen

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another option is to take a 2 liter soda/water bottle and cut the top off at the widest and highest point and place it over the plants to increase humidity.
 
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VRZ711

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NapalmZen said:
another option is to take a 2 liter soda/water bottle and cut the top off at the widest and highest point and place it over the plants to increase humidity.
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humidity here is 57% do you think i need that?

today my tea is done, PH the day before yesterday was 5.7, yesterdday it was 5.9 and today 6.1, when i add the tea in it got to 5.7, (where it should be). everything looks alright :) thanks to you man.

when u think the roots will start to come out the netpos ? i just cant wait :-D
 
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NapalmZen

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VRZ711 said:
humidity here is 57% do you think i need that?

today my tea is done, PH the day before yesterday was 5.7, yesterdday it was 5.9 and today 6.1, when i add the tea in it got to 5.7, (where it should be). everything looks alright :) thanks to you man.

when u think the roots will start to come out the netpos ? i just cant wait :-D
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That's up to you. 50-70% is where I understand we want it.

Depends on the plant. I check mine every time I water.

I know, but patience is key.
 
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VRZ711

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PH was 6.4 a.i have added 4 cups of tea on my 8 gallon, the PH dropped to 5.8 after 2 hours, 2 hours more it was 5.4 i balanced to 5.9 after another 2 hours it got 5.3 i balanced again now, i dont have PH UP so i removed 1 gallon off the water and used fresh water at 7.5 PH 150 PPM, now its 5.8, what can i use as PH Up(house hold stuff)? thats whats reported for sub culture to do, PH fluctuations, is this normal? any ways the plants look good. PPM is at 210, hope the tea will do its magic to promote the growth. i just report everything happens as i dont know what normal whats not, this is my first time.
 
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NapalmZen

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VRZ711 said:
PH was 6.4 a.i have added 4 cups of tea on my 8 gallon, the PH dropped to 5.8 after 2 hours, 2 hours more it was 5.4 i balanced to 5.9 after another 2 hours it got 5.3 i balanced again now, i dont have PH UP so i removed 1 gallon off the water and used fresh water at 7.5 PH 150 PPM, now its 5.8, what can i use as PH Up(house hold stuff)? thats whats reported for sub culture to do, PH fluctuations, is this normal? any ways the plants look good. PPM is at 210, hope the tea will do its magic to promote the growth. i just report everything happens as i dont know what normal whats not, this is my first time.
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when you first add it, it will fluctuate for a couple days. it does this because there is basically a war going on in the res. the bennies are converting the nutes into an easier to process solution (your ppm should be jumping around a bit too) and will do this to plain tap water too. when the microbes die off some, it will stop.

what will be left is a colony living in the root ball.(this is what you want) this is why i dont add them till i have a root ball.
 
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VRZ711

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NapalmZen said:
what will be left is a colony living in the root ball.(this is what you want) this is why i dont add them till i have a root ball.
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then i guess all is fine, :) thank you for your explanation, then ill just go slow on the tea usage, also maybe i can use it as PH down, if i calculated the right amounts.
 
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NapalmZen

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unless you have an infection, you should be using as little as possible. at this stage, it might be good to cut your weekly dosage in half or quarter. one you have a root ball, go nuts.
 
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VRZ711

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Update Day 9 from seed:

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i went 20 hours outside the house, the new seed dried out :( , and the PH was 6.7 when i come back and the water was 75! the res smells a little bad, until i started using frozen bottles to bring it to 70 again, i guess they survived that bad day, i also added little more tea on the rockwool. the res smells okay now, PPM is 190 so i guess they have been using some nutes.

what u think about the grow ?
 
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VRZ711

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my water is being at 76 some times trying to bring it down but i cant bring it down less than 72, plants seems fine should i buy a water cooler ? and circulate the water inside it? it costs about 70$ ?
 
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VRZ711

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I finally got the recharge today, i poured 1 teaspoon into half gallon of water mixed well, then added to the res. i will let you know the updates, they guarantee explosive growth in 48 hours, cant wait to see!
 
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