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DWC Auto flower first Grow

Discussion in 'DWC/ Bubbleponics' started by VRZ711, Jan 18, 2017.

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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    That's what i had in my mind! what you think guys ? 76 as the highest is okay ?

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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Mine gets up to 76. I use bennies. I don't get root rot.
     
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    VRZ711

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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    Just before the recharge
    plant 1
    Day 10 from seed 1.jpg
    plant 2
    Day 10 from seed 2.jpg
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    Quick update:
    PPM is 230 after using recharge, PH is 6.0 - 6.4 water has not been changed for 8 days, should i change it? and maybe pump the nutes to 400:fire:?

    Plant 1:
    can you see a little yellowing on the first real set of leafs
    Day 12 from seed 1.jpg
    also do you think the stem is alright ??
    Does the stem look okay.jpg

    Plant 2:
    was looking a little droopy today, but now its okay.
    Day 12 from seed 2.jpg
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    get your ph to 5.8.

    dont change the rez till the plants start using nutrients. as a rule of thumb, i make 2 batches of nutes. so 2 x 8 gallon batches. the first goes in the rez and the second is used with ph'd ro water for the purpose of topping off and maintaining ppm. i replace the water in the rez after i go through the second 8 gallon mix. i may go through 15 gallons of plain ro in that time. this could be 3-4 weeks in early stages. it can also be twice a week in late flower.

    leaves look great. let it grow. patience is key.

    if you want me to respond, quote me and it will send an alert. i stopped watching threads due to harassment.
     
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    VRZ711

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    i just lifted the rockwool up as i was about to get a stem rot, cause the wet rockwool, (i did it the hard way, removed the clay balls one by one -not to damage the roots- and returned them back one by one ) and only one nice beautiful white root hair was coming out, so i guided it outside the net pot into the water wish her luck.
    Day 13 from seed 1.jpg

    the second girl looks so cute and fluffy
    Day 13 from seed 2.jpg
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    I will keep saying it. Let the plant do its thing. Every time you touch it, you increase the chance for problems like rot and infection. You don't need to foliar spray or mess with the nutrients or add inoculations yet. Let the seedlings grow naturally. Otherwise you will kill it.

    Hell, since I installed a scrog screen on mine, I don't even look at my roots any more. The only time I touch my plant is when I tuck my scrog.

    I even just started a couple 12/12 from seed in soil. I placed the seeds in watered soil and let it go. Till it outgrows the cup it's in, all I plan on doing is adding plain tap water.

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    I literally check it every couple days to make sure the soil is wet and that is all.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    i was worried from yesterday about it, as this is my first grow, im so much passionate about, also many problems happened for me before that i didnt take care of and lost 3 plants for that.

    you have an understanding of your environment and setup, but i dont thats why im noob, and learning, trust me if i didnt do what i did, i would of got a stem rot, now i am more confident that the little root is free, and the rockwool is not soaking anymore.

    and as i said i was so gentle i didnt even touck the plant or the root as i was holding it from the rockwool.

    what you are saying is right tho.
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Trust me, I have killed more seedlings in the last 4 months than you. The only reason I give the advice I do is it worked.

    But I also have around 50 seeds to expirament with. Not including my good seeds.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    im sure with your experience we can achieve the 500 grams from both of the plants,
     
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    VRZ711

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    Update day 14
    Plant 1: what you think ?
    Day 14 from seed 1.jpg

    Plant 2:
    Day 14 from seed 2.jpg
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    before after for plant 1
     

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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    add nutrients.

    a better idea, is to get rid of the rockwool.

    it looks like deficiency. it may be time to increase nutrients.

    there is definitely something wrong.
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I think the plants are starving. Especially the one with the yellowing leaves. Not sure if it's because of too low nute levels or the roots are rotting. They should be a lot bigger by now if they were feeding properly.

    I usually start with decent sized clones and they grow really fast once installed in DWC. But I have started seeds right in the pots and had good results.

    Just like I don't do well growing in dirt organically but get great results with DWC it's the other way around for some. I'm mostly growing in a mix of soilless and soil both from ProMix and feeding with AN's pH Perfect nutes which are the same nutes I use with DWC when I do that.

    If you can get the plants bigger I'd pick out as much as that rockwool as possible. I tried that shit 15 years ago and killed all my seedlings so have never used it since. Now I start all seeds and cuttings in screened ProMix and everything thrives.

    :peace:
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Yes, I want him to toss the rockwool too. It should break apart easily without damaging the root.

    The rockwool has too high a concentration of microbes. Since the start, I have seen it as a problem. The beneficials may be so dense they are attacking the roots.
     
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    VRZ711

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    i removed the rock wool, found root rot and it smells bad, i socked a little in 50% H2o2(6%) and 50% water for less than a min,and increased PPM to 400

    thank you guys for your support on this, do u think it will survive ?
     

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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    That is why we wait to add bennies. The 6% should be fine.

    Basically, where bennies breed, bad things breed too.
     
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    VRZ711

    VRZ711 Active Member

    beanies are not suppose to eat the bad stuff?
     
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    NapalmZen

    NapalmZen Well-Known Member

    Yes and no. I said that wrong. They use up all the food so the bad stuff can't grow. They can eat the bad stuff. but if there is enough food, the bad stuff will grow too.

    That root may need a daily soak in H2o2 till it shows healthy new growth.
     

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