First Grow

Derek Trance · Mar 18, 2017

Hey all, 1st grow here and obviously I'm questioning if everything is right. A little background on my setup. Running a 450 LED on veg only in a 2 x 4 tent, Fox farm happy frog soil. Currently just about 2 weeks in, running a fertilizer of 3 tsp big bloom and 1 tsp grow big per gallon of water. (bottled, not tap) Currently have 3 plants, one northern lights and 2 blueberry. They germinated fine (one had a seed hang that was corrected) And like I said now I am at the 2 week mark. My question is while these look like they are getting nice and bushy, they don't seem to be growing "up" very much, granted they are indica, but I expected them to at least have a bit of height. Do these look ok? Should I just keep to my plan?

mr buddy · Mar 18, 2017

Derek Trance said:
Hey all, 1st grow here and obviously I'm questioning if everything is right. A little background on my setup. Running a 450 LED on veg only in a 2 x 4 tent, Fox farm happy frog soil. Currently just about 2 weeks in, running a fertilizer of 3 tsp big bloom and 1 tsp grow big per gallon of water. (bottled, not tap) Currently have 3 plants, one northern lights and 2 blueberry. They germinated fine (one had a seed hang that was corrected) And like I said now I am at the 2 week mark. My question is while these look like they are getting nice and bushy, they don't seem to be growing "up" very much, granted they are indica, but I expected them to at least have a bit of height. Do these look ok? Should I just keep to my plan?

stick to ur plan ..with led I don't think you get much plant stretch for the light .like you would using hps. .they look good .maybe start to train them using lst method in a few weeks once u go into flower stage they will grow well bigger

Derek Trance · Mar 18, 2017

Thanks Mr. Buddy, it's all a learning process, I appreciate the input!

mr buddy · Mar 18, 2017

Derek Trance said:
Thanks Mr. Buddy, it's all a learning process, I appreciate the input!

no problem and don't over nute them

nfhiggs · Mar 18, 2017

Derek Trance said:
Hey all, 1st grow here and obviously I'm questioning if everything is right. A little background on my setup. Running a 450 LED on veg only in a 2 x 4 tent, Fox farm happy frog soil. Currently just about 2 weeks in, running a fertilizer of 3 tsp big bloom and 1 tsp grow big per gallon of water. (bottled, not tap) Currently have 3 plants, one northern lights and 2 blueberry. They germinated fine (one had a seed hang that was corrected) And like I said now I am at the 2 week mark. My question is while these look like they are getting nice and bushy, they don't seem to be growing "up" very much, granted they are indica, but I expected them to at least have a bit of height. Do these look ok? Should I just keep to my plan?

Too much blue light is keeping them short.

Olive Drab Green · Mar 18, 2017

nfhiggs said:
Too much blue light is keeping them short.

That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he should be using white light. 3000-4000k. 80-90 CRI. Go COBs.

nfhiggs · Mar 18, 2017

Olive Drab Green said:
That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he should be using white light. 3000-4000k. 80-90 CRI. Go COBs.

Agreed - short is not bad in and of itself, but if OP wants them taller, more red and less blue is the easiest way. Switching the light to flower will most likely get some height out of them.

Yeah, White light is definitely better. Yay COBs!

Budzbuddha · Mar 18, 2017

Sounds like your panels have switches ...... Turn them BOTH ON.
You are running at a severely lower power level .... Keep them both on thru entire grow.

Once you put both on .... Magic happens .

Olive Drab Green · Mar 18, 2017

Budzbuddha said:
Sounds like your panels have switches ...... Turn them BOTH ON.
You are running at a severely lower power level .... Keep them both on thru entire grow.

Once you put both on .... Magic happens .

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Good catch.

Budzbuddha · Mar 18, 2017

Those bloom/veg switches on LED blurple panels which are " already " under powered , just makes the performance even more pathetic.

Never grow on one color channel .... ALWAYS RUN MAX.

I use a ViparSpectra ... I used to be a MARS boy ( until i shitcanned them ). I even
GUTTED a 600 and built a QUANTUM BOARD RIG , which blows all of them away.

But i STILL have that Vipar , i kinda dig the plants it grows ... It steps it up for me since i grow only for me and the dog. It has dual stage switches and i ALWAYS ... ALWAYS RUN THEM BOTH. .

You are not going to burn out anything .... Panel needs to be effective as it can be.

Budzbuddha · Mar 18, 2017

Ufos are G8 Deep RED LED - one the only LED lights that are ONLY for bloom stages.
They sport 630nm and 660nm red leds which aids blooming .......
And they work.

Derek Trance · Mar 19, 2017

Thanks for all the input guys, I cranked the flower light on this morning and will give it some time. (so now have both on). I use a Viparspecra 450.

Olive Drab Green · Mar 19, 2017

Derek Trance said:
Thanks for all the input guys, I cranked the flower light on this morning and will give it some time. (so now have both on). I use a Viparspecra 450.

I had a feeling, actually, from all that blue. Better that than a Mars or Galaxy, I imagine.

Derek Trance · Apr 6, 2017

Just wanted to say thanks. Both lights on and girls doing well....

kratos015 · Apr 6, 2017

You said two weeks, does that include the time it took to germinate them or no? Either way, they're looking really good so far.

Anyway for you to check the roots on them? They might just be starting to get rootbound. Plant size/growth is directly proportional to the root mass.

Derek Trance · Apr 6, 2017

Two weeks did not include the germination, that was from first sprout.
And they WERE root bound in those cups, I'll definitely transfer them earlier on the next run.
It's a learning process...

714steadyeddie · Apr 6, 2017

Derek Trance said:
Just wanted to say thanks. Both lights on and girls doing well....

Much better eh?

Derek Trance · Apr 24, 2017

Yep MUCH better.....

Derek Trance · May 4, 2017

Flipped them to flower at about 20 inches. They continue to amaze me....

Ares2389 · May 4, 2017

Looks awesome! Keep it up!

Do you plan on taking clones?

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