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First Nations demand control over cannabis sales

Discussion in 'Canadian Patients' started by gb123, Dec 6, 2017.

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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    here we go! :lol: This will show our feds how LITTLE they can control their new found wealth 8-)

    First Nations leaders say they must be given the right to govern the sale and distribution of legalized marijuana within their communities and to set the laws that will oversee its use by their people.

    Chiefs attending an annual conference of the Assembly of First Nations (AFN) on Wednesday expressed wide-ranging views on the federal Liberal government's plan for legalizing cannabis by next July 1.

    Some told the assembly they have not had enough time or money to prepare for the change and urged the AFN to ask for a delay in the implementation of Bill C-45, which would make marijuana legal in Canada for the first time in 94 years. Others said they embraced the legalization of the drug and are looking forward to sharing in the wealth that will be generated by the cannabis industry.


    But there was widespread agreement that it is the First Nations, and not the federal or provincial governments, that will determine the rules around the use and sale of marijuana on reserves.

    The AFN has struck a committee led by Ontario Regional Chief Isadore Day and Quebec Regional Chief Ghislain Picard to ensure that First Nations have the support they need to adapt to legalization of marijuana and to document concerns around the health, social, and economic issues.


    "Above all we do need to look at this from a jurisdictional lens," Mr. Day said. "Our people are going to say, 'Listen, we have aboriginal treaty rights, we have economic rights as First Nations people. Who is Canada to say we can't have a dispensary in our community?'"

    Even though the federal government is letting the provinces decide such things as the age at which someone may legally possess cannabis, Mr. Day said the First Nations may not feel bound to adhere to the provincial rules.

    For instance, a province may set the age at 18, he said, "but what if a [First Nations] community says we want it to be 23 or 24 because the studies show that the development of a young person's brain isn't complete until they are in their 20s?"

    The communities that most oppose marijuana legalization tend to be the smaller and more isolated reserves in the northern part of the country where the people will be consumers of the drug but have little chance of cashing in on the potential financial windfall of the cannabis business.

    "Marijuana is just another drug that people will take advantage of," said Ignace Gull, the Chief of Attawapiskat in northwestern Ontario. "It will affect the community because we don't have the resources to deal with this. There is no funding to educate or make people aware of what cannabis is all about."


    But the chiefs in parts of the country that are closer to urban areas see advantages to legalization and want to be left to their own devices when it takes effect.

    "They want in on the economic benefit to create jobs and earn revenue," said Donald Maracle, Chief of the Mohawks of the Bay of Quinte in southeastern Ontario.

    And while there should be regulations that prohibit driving while under the influence and that stop children from getting their hands on the drug, Mr. Maracle said "there is a huge question about whether Ontario's laws can even apply on reserve."

    Randall Phillips, the chief of Oneida Nation of the Thames, near London, Ont., said the legalization of marijuana is just another way for the federal government to profit from a product that otherwise has been sold on the black market. But the First Nations should also benefit, and on their own terms, Mr. Phillips said.

    "We will decide who gets it. We will decide how it gets distributed. We will decide how it gets protected and we are going to look at all those things. But I don't need a regulatory framework," he said.

    His community is applying to become one of the limited number of licensed growers of cannabis. It is also home to a marijuana dispensary and the people who run it do not believe they need a licence to operate it, Mr. Phillips said.


    As for the First Nations who want legalization to be delayed, he said "there's all sorts of ways they can stop it from coming in. We don't have that luxury down south, so we have to think about it in a different way and with a different approach."
     
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    buckets

    buckets Well-Known Member

    This is very interesting to read about. I hope to see more First Nations activism.
     
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    WHATFG

    WHATFG Well-Known Member

    This should have come before......

    This....


    Hahahahaha Justin....whatcha gonna do now princess?....he'll have to send Jody in to deal with this....
     
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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    its called BACKING and they'll be able to do as they please.8-)
    edible market is wide open!!!
     
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    VIANARCHRIS

    VIANARCHRIS Well-Known Member

    Legislated racial prejudice. One rule for the First Nations, another rule for Quebecer's, yet another set of rules based on your religious beliefs and then the vast majority who pay the taxes in this country are treated like 3rd class people. I really don't care what colour skin you have or what language you speak or what god you identify with - either we are all treated equally or one group is being discriminated against.
    I can understand certain rules to allow people to embrace their culture, but what does the cannabis industry have to do with culture? If this goes though, I think I might just declare refugee status on the local reserve.
     
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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    its a plant of the earth
    Its part of their culture..
     
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    Danielson999

    Danielson999 Well-Known Member

    Nobody truly cares how Natives deal with medical MJ do they? They should be allowed to regulate it however they want just like they do with everything else. It will have zero impact on federal regulation of MJ and zero impact on Canadians lives. Oh wow, 0.004% of Canadians will score MJ from Natives they know, just like they do with cigarettes.
     
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    VIANARCHRIS

    VIANARCHRIS Well-Known Member

    Along with every other human beings' culture. Time to rip up the 'Indian Act' and make EVERY Canadian equal under the Charter.
    Maybe you don't care, but I take issue with me and my family being denied opportunities granted to another group of Canadians. I was born here and I've paid taxes in this country all my life. Why should I except being treated as a second class citizen? I have several life-long friends who are Native and we've had this discussion many times - guess what? They agree with me. I'm not worried about the impact on the federal system, I care about fairness and equal opportunities.
     
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    TheRealDman

    TheRealDman Well-Known Member

    Yes, Cannabis has been part of native culture long before us white men invaded their land and decimated their culture.
     
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    TheRealDman

    TheRealDman Well-Known Member

    Chris you may have been born here, but your ancestors weren’t!
     
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    gb123

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    lol that'd be great if we would allow them off their reserves where we stuck them and keep them there with money, little bits but hey...its like cuba eh :)
    would be great if that were possible but we have it the way it is so
    let them do as they please as you say...give them their rights!
    Ive watched our government deal with natives first hand since I was kid. Grew up with natives and see it first hand. Most have no clue.
     
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    taint

    taint Well-Known Member

    That can literally be said about everyone.........derp,derp yer ancestors did it or didn't do it.......which evers more convenient to muh feels.
     
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    Danielson999

    Danielson999 Well-Known Member

    You live in what is possibly the fairest and most 'equal rights' country in the world, you have an advantage most people on this planet don't. Natives deserve every right to make their own rules on their own land. If they want to grow weed and sell it to other Natives on their land, so be it. I would only call it unfair if they try to sell medical MJ to Canadians and if that is there plan then I agree with you, it's not fair to let them grow and distribute it without proper licensing with the feds.
     
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    VIANARCHRIS

    VIANARCHRIS Well-Known Member

    And what, exactly, does that have to do with anything? My ancestors were born in England and the last time I checked, that didn't grant me special status there. Same with Quebec... I'm going to quit before someone starts with the racist accusations. It seems when you're white you are not allowed to complain about being discriminated against.
    Time for a revolution.
     
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    TheRealDman

    TheRealDman Well-Known Member

    Natives have been discriminated literally to death by white men in this country for 200+ years. Our ancestors came here as invaders, and have treated natives as barely human ever since. They deserve to be allowed to live their life’s as their culture sees fit.
     
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    CalyxCrusher

    CalyxCrusher Well-Known Member

    No. Youre assuming that everyone who is white has that story. Which in and of itself is racist to say ALL people of race X did something simply because of the color or their skin so they must all be alike. I can say my ancestors weren't part of it since the immigrated here. Not that it would have ANY bearing on who I am or what i believe if that wasn't the case. Just as it is for anyone of any race or religion.

    FYI name me one country in history which was taken by peaceful means without bloodshed or where both parties benefited and no subjugation was had?......
     
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    TheRealDman

    TheRealDman Well-Known Member

    My point is...we are all immigrants here in native land.
     
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    CalyxCrusher

    CalyxCrusher Well-Known Member

    So is anyone in any land...... Everyone had to immigrate from somewhere
     
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    TheRealDman

    TheRealDman Well-Known Member

    Natives aren’t immigrants...this was their land for millennia before it was stolen from them.
     
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    WHATFG

    WHATFG Well-Known Member

    Not sure if I'm wording this right, but come someone tell me what our landrace strain is here in good old Canada?...I've been waiting for someone to say this...I guess gb said something as well about it being part of the culture.
     
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