Fox Farm, Advanced Nutrients, General Hydro, Botanicare... OH MY

hooked.on.ponics

Well-Known Member
and then follows the whole sales pitch by claiming AN isn't expensive,lol
Sales pitch? Where do you see a sales pitch? You guys are attacking something that isn't even there.

"Switching from Fox Farm to GH, doesn’t sound great. I haven’t tried out GH product. But I really like whenever I use advanced nutrients product. I’m an irregular grower, but advanced nutrients help to give good quality of yield and their nutrients are not expensive."

Let's look at this, and then accusations leveled against it. We'll break it down by sentence and find the "claim to know which one (between GH and undesignated second brand) is best" and "sales pitch".

First sentence:
Switching from Fox Farm to GH, doesn’t sound great.

Looks like a personal opinion that this person doesn't, based on third-party information, believe tangible advantage exists for switching from Fox Farms to General Hydroponics. Personally, I think that if that change comes with a shift from soil to hydroponics there'll be some improvement, but again, this is entirely the realm of opinions all-around.

Second sentence:
I haven’t tried out GH product.

Pretty obvious. This person hasn't used General Hydroponics.

Third sentence:
But I really like whenever I use advanced nutrients product.

Seems they like Advanced Nutrients.

Final sentence:
I’m an irregular grower, but advanced nutrients help to give good quality of yield and their nutrients are not expensive.

So they don't grow all the time, regularly, but are of the opinion that AN helps them get a yield and quality they're happy with and at a price they don't consider expensive. Obviously not everyone agrees with what constitutes "expensive" but that's personal opinion. I don't think $25 for a four-pack of beer is expensive, depending on the beer. You can't pay me enough to drink what laughably passes for beer for some people. But I'm a beer snob. I'm okay with that. Six bucks a bottle (retail, not bar mark-up) is still more than I want to pay for what I drink most frequently and a decent beer would be considered (by me) to be overpriced at that point. But a really high-quality beer? Yeah, I'll drop a chunk of money on that now and then. Doesn't make me a rube.


Strange, I don't see anywhere that this person claimed to know which of two products was better. They said it sounded to them like Fox Farms was probably as good or better than General Hydroponics. See, a change of nutrients for no improvement isn't an even trade - you have to learn the new system, there's more work involved than simply using what you're already familiar with. To go through all that for no improvement is a waste, right? So they're not even saying that Fox Farms is better than GH. They're literally saying that switching doesn't sound great.

The other "charge", of it being a sales pitch, is weak.

This is a sales pitch to you? What are the Girl Scout Cookie tables at the grocery store, strong-arm robbery? This doesn't make me want to buy Advanced Nutrients. I couldn't care less what some "irregular grower" thinks is good or bad, why would anyone else?


There's just no call for this kind of attack. Ganging up on some new member because they said something you could take out of context in a way to "justify" tearing into them is not cool.
 

Sir.Ganga

New Member
Ignore chucky he doesn't even grow. All he does is argue mute points and call people names. He has been asked to proove himself to no avail so any of his comments should be disregarded.

I'm beginning to think he's not a troll but a NARC!

Read his stuff and have a laugh...thats all its good for.
 

herbbilly

Active Member
Thought I'd switch but nope. Keeping gh 3part I know it, its 3 bottles could be 2, never burn plants,inexpensive,pulling .85g a watt effortlessly. I think I might try some pk boost and/or hardener someday but can't imagine 8-12 bottles every feed. How would you know where you went wrong?
 

jackm420

Active Member
i use all 3 solubles and let me tell you once i started cha ching i could SMELL the difference and the nugs are swell it's so awesome. start 1/4 does work up to full dose as with what i do and it is a beautiful thing
 
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