Free seed pre harvest pics

Just about 2 weeks from sprouting. You can see how the plants have almost quadrupled in size. They'll be transplanted in a day or two, so next time you'll see them the plants will sit in 2gal (10") pots. Flowering is planned for 4-5 weeks, depending on how the plants make me feel. Madness (the plant on the front right) looks kinda frightening. I can just picture an endless stretch. This happens from time to time. The solution? I kill it and fire up a clone some weeks later. We'll see what happens. BTW, those are 16oz cups, for scale.

Simon

SimonD said:

It occurred to me that folks may not be familiar with this technique, or may not even be sure of what I'm referring to. The pics are from my tutorial on IC. Above is a Chronic clone after ~4 weeks of veg. It was LST'd at ~10 days after seating in the pot.

Same plant with its branches closest to the front pruned of their secondary growth.

Same plant ready to flower. Notice how the stems are pruned of everything other than the leaves.

Same plant finished.

Simon

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That's so funny, I use the same exact method to LST my plants with the tape and string.. love it beautiful buds by the way looks killer!

autoflowa said:

That's so funny, I use the same exact method to LST my plants with the tape and string.. love it beautiful buds by the way looks killer!

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I vividly remember sitting in my basement with a pot and a drill. There was no Youtube, then. I'd seen diagrams and written directions for LST, all advising to drill holes in pots and run stings/hooks/bent coat hangers/etc though the holes to hold down the branches, and I was about to do the same. I looked at that drill in my hand and said to myself, "What am I, stupid?" Then took out some butcher twine and duct tape and haven't looked back. One word of advice to anyone contemplating doing the same; buy the best duct tape you can find.

Simon

Apologies for not updating the thread in a timely manner. The pics were shot this past Tuesday, exactly 3 weeks after sprouting: 2gal pots, Pro-Mix fed with Jack's Classic.


I thought I'd show the LST process again, since I was tying the plants down anyway. As you can see, I like to LST at 7-8 nodes from seed (and 5-10 modes, depending, from clone). Why, when new growers are told to maximize the number of "bud sites?" Because, successful cultivation isn't about vegging for the biggest number of "bud sites" or whatever other growbook bullshit one clamps onto; it's about harvesting the most bud!



First tie supports the plant (for the entirety of its life).



Second tie is as high as possible.

I'll do my best to upload the pics on time at the 4-week mark.



Simon

4 weeks from seed. I'm going to flower the batch in a day or two, so the next set of pics will come in 9-10 weeks.

Simon

nice so thats what you do is lst I need to try that out. whats your average yield per plant? how many plants do you fit under your light like that? and are you breaking 1gpw? damn sure looks like it anyways it almost looks like your doing better then most scrog and sog growers.
you got me trying out that jacks classic for sure I'm using GH nutes right now but them jc nutes look like they'll do just as good.

SimonD said:

600HPS' and 1000HPS', Jack's Classic All-Purpose in veg and Blossom Booster in bloom. B'cuzz Pro-Mix right out of the bag.

http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Jack-s-Classic/The-Dynamic-Duo.html


Simon

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where do you get pro-mix B'cuzz? I can only find pro-mix bx and the cheaper kind locally. what do they only sell it at hydro stores or what?

bluntmassa1 said:

nice so thats what you do is lst I need to try that out. whats your average yield per plant? how many plants do you fit under your light like that? and are you breaking 1gpw? damn sure looks like it anyways it almost looks like your doing better then most scrog and sog growers.
you got me trying out that jacks classic for sure I'm using GH nutes right now but them jc nutes look like they'll do just as good.

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I run one plant per (about a) square foot. It usually works out to ~1.25ft2 per plant. Each plant goes up with 5-8 main stems, all pruned for no popcorn. So, in a sense, it's kinda like a SOG without the multitude of plants and with additional reach in the literal sense of the word. I find that being able to physically move and re-orient the plants, as needed, pays significant dividends at harvest. Yield, I pull several ounces per square foot under 1Ks, dry/cured.

bluntmassa1 said:

where do you get pro-mix B'cuzz? I can only find pro-mix bx and the cheaper kind locally. what do they only sell it at hydro stores or what?

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I buy the B'cuzz Pro-Mix in a hydro store, but you can use any other Pro-Mix just the same. Just add some Perlite. A good measure is a bag of MG Perlite (how ever much that is), from the gardening section at the DIY store, per 2ft2 of Pro-Mix.

Simon

Hey Simon,

Ive just been converted to Jacks, as i fell in the marketing hysteria of fancy nutes then all organics and after all my reading and research it seems like jacks is the real deal. Hell they've been around for 50+ years. A few questions for you...What is your water source? I run RO (30ppms) I am wondering if you have ever or think i should add cal mag supplements to the soil or feed schedule. After speaking with someone at JR Peters they said that i might want to add cal mag but couldn't add it to any mixture with Jacks (alternate feeds or apply foliage). Do you ph? sorry for all the questions, I feel like i'm re-learning growing. Also, do you flush? i think i recall you saying that you feed 1/4 strength at the end. any info would be greatly appreciated. I wish i would have known this since day one..Thanks for the thread!

RandyHighwood said:

Hey Simon,

Ive just been converted to Jacks, as i fell in the marketing hysteria of fancy nutes then all organics and after all my reading and research it seems like jacks is the real deal. Hell they've been around for 50+ years. A few questions for you...What is your water source? I run RO (30ppms) I am wondering if you have ever or think i should add cal mag supplements to the soil or feed schedule. After speaking with someone at JR Peters they said that i might want to add cal mag but couldn't add it to any mixture with Jacks (alternate feeds or apply foliage). Do you ph? sorry for all the questions, I feel like i'm re-learning growing. Also, do you flush? i think i recall you saying that you feed 1/4 strength at the end. any info would be greatly appreciated. I wish i would have known this since day one..Thanks for the thread!

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Hi Randy. I don't add anything to Jack's. No Cal/Mag. Nothing at all. Just water from the tap mixed with the fertilizer. I was a chem major in college for about 15 minutes and leaned just enough to understand that I don't know shit about the subject, so I leave the chemistry to those who completed their post-docs.

I did lean out the fertilizer concentration to 1/4 for years, but last season changed the methodology a bit to 1/2 strength. Can't say that it made a night and day difference, but I did pull personal best last season, so I'm sticking with it. No flush. Ever.

I should note again that I feed with every watering. The pots are relatively small and the plants aren't, so we're talking water every 1-2 days. I feel rather strongly that it allows for a much greater degree of control, relative to larger pots and less frequent watering, coupled with the buffering of the medium.

If I can give you a piece of advice, try to make everything as simple as possible. The less inputs you use, the easier it is to streamline the grow.


Simon

SimonD said:

If I can give you a piece of advice, try to make everything as simple as possible. The less inputs you use, the easier it is to streamline the grow.


Simon

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Very true, it is so easy to over-complicate

Nice buds. How did the NLxBB turn out? I have several now and it's growing insane. One of the healthiest and most vigorous strains i've ever seen. First one won't be coming down for another 4-5 weeks though.

SimonD said:

4 weeks from seed. I'm going to flower the batch in a day or two, so the next set of pics will come in 9-10 weeks.

Simon

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I took a few pics of a test run I was harvesting last night, and found several pics that I think represent some to the plants above. My apologies for being so lame about this.










Simon

I got a free Bubba x Cheese seed last year and finally grew it out this summer. Took a few clones and did a test run to gauge the strain's viability. Here are the results. 7 clones that covered ~9ft2 of the garden:










Edit: not sure why the other pics are so small. I apologize again for not having the time to dive into this.

Simon

Just read through all of this, great pics, documentation and technique. Looking forward to seeing more updates. +rep