Ganjaluvrs Drying & Curing Broken Down into Understandable English

Serapis

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edit: deleted my own post

EDIT2: OK, I'm trying again.
Just in case anyone is confused about the 10-15% moisture figure. Forget about it.
Use a hygrometer in your jars.
Search for a thread called "perfect cure every time" by "Simon".

When RH drops below 55% curing is DONE and will not continue.

From memory (DO check out the thread, I could remember wrong):

RH:

70%+ too wet, take out and dry a little - depending.

65% - 70% almost in perfect cure-zone, slowly get it down to 65% by burping.

60% - 65% stems snap, buds are sticky, and are now curing. Still, continue til 60%

55% - 60% no chance for mold, can be stored without burping. Still curing.

below 55% too dry, curing has stopped and can not continue. If you add moisture, you get wet buds - not a restart of curing.
Actually, you are mold risk free around 63%. That doesn't mean mold won't come, it means that if you stay on course and keep burping it down, once you hit 63%, you can begin to relax on the mold inspections. Just make sure to continue sniffing product when burping for any signs of mold smell.

Wait, so loose in jars or all together? I'd think you'd want them spaced out to dry evenly.
I pack my jars full the first time, because I'm going to sweat them, drawing moisture from bigger buds into smaller ones that are much drier. The goal is to even out the moisture. Once I get my bud slightly below 70% RH, I then thin out my jars, leaving some room to tumble the jars to separate buds. I also don't bother removing buds from stems until I thin the jars. The stems help slow down loss and even the moisture content.

what size jars are the best to use? i figure the larger the jar the more would be in the jar thus you may have to change how long you keep the jars open.
I use half gallon mason jars, and each one can hold about 4-5 ounces. For smaller grows, I would use the quart jars, which easily hold about 1.5 oz.

Thats awesome thanks for the info! I grew some Ice and had to harvest them about two weeks early. The trichomes are clear but there is a good amount of orange hairs on them. Are these crystal covered buds going to get me high?
The trichomes are resin glands, so you do have some on your product. The question is going to be what type of buzz. You may very well like early bud; some people love it, because they can get high or medicate in middle of the day and still function.

i,ve dried my bud,s too much no moisture in jars how do i repair this or am i stuck with it ?
While you cannot restart the curing process, you can add life back into those dry buds. Place a freshly cut fan leaf into the jar and leave it for two days. A big fat fan leaf. the dry buds will suck the moisture right out of it. This method does return SOME of the flavor and taste, b ut it won't restore it to it's original potential.

Plastic containers give off a gas, and are NOT airtight! Find a big jar with a big mouth and lid! Simple as that no ifs, but's, or and's about it! HAS TO BE A GLASS JAR WITH A LID!! Read my post its some knowledge PROMISE! If you need more jars buy some 99¢ peanut jars and start grubbing! if your allergenic then throw them away! jams, jellies, pickles, etc. you get the idea right? NO PLASTIC!!!
There are many safe plastics out there, including plastics in food service and storage. Many people with big harvests cure in trash bags or 5 gallon buckets. While your alert is certainly good willed and good intentioned, it is false, plastic containers maybe used, but unlike glass jars, they are not air tight. Trichomes may also stick to the surface of plastic. While plastic should be avoided by smaller growers due to availability of superior mason jars, large growers don't have a choice, they can and should use BPA free plastics.
 
Hi, thats great what you have put there, your right if they don't understand it then they never will. Thanks so much for giving me reassurance. ;)
 

sm0ker420

Member
Actually, you are mold risk free around 63%. That doesn't mean mold won't come, it means that if you stay on course and keep burping it down, once you hit 63%, you can begin to relax on the mold inspections. Just make sure to continue sniffing product when burping for any signs of mold smell.



I pack my jars full the first time, because I'm going to sweat them, drawing moisture from bigger buds into smaller ones that are much drier. The goal is to even out the moisture. Once I get my bud slightly below 70% RH, I then thin out my jars, leaving some room to tumble the jars to separate buds. I also don't bother removing buds from stems until I thin the jars. The stems help slow down loss and even the moisture content.



I use half gallon mason jars, and each one can hold about 4-5 ounces. For smaller grows, I would use the quart jars, which easily hold about 1.5 oz.



The trichomes are resin glands, so you do have some on your product. The question is going to be what type of buzz. You may very well like early bud; some people love it, because they can get high or medicate in middle of the day and still function.



While you cannot restart the curing process, you can add life back into those dry buds. Place a freshly cut fan leaf into the jar and leave it for two days. A big fat fan leaf. the dry buds will suck the moisture right out of it. This method does return SOME of the flavor and taste, b ut it won't restore it to it's original potential.



There are many safe plastics out there, including plastics in food service and storage. Many people with big harvests cure in trash bags or 5 gallon buckets. While your alert is certainly good willed and good intentioned, it is false, plastic containers maybe used, but unlike glass jars, they are not air tight. Trichomes may also stick to the surface of plastic. While plastic should be avoided by smaller growers due to availability of superior mason jars, large growers don't have a choice, they can and should use BPA free plastics.
Awesome post brother!!! I was going to ask a question about how high can my RH be during flower before I can get bud mold? currently it is around 60-70% and im going to put in some dehumidifiers soon to try and get that down. I am going to harvest a afghan kush ryder in a few days so I been reading as much as i can about drying and curing. I think I got the cure down pat i just need some small hygrometers or i can use the digi one with a probe in jar once it is dry? I got four NL ladies nearing end of week 3 soon so its bout to stack up and i needa get my RH down aint tryna get bud mold. My AKR been fine in the high RH though.
 

thexception

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why this article is a sticky i have no idea? This article leaves MANY unanswered potential questions, simply about the little information that is posted here. Leave 10-15% moisture (which I disagree with) but in any case, how ridiculous, how does one determine that, since you said your post explains everything so well in understandable English? Must have missed that, no wait, nothing in your article mentioned that.

A real shame, & for the record, just because "someone doesnt get it"... with all the INFORMATION that it is lacking, well, means absolutely nothing. Your post from the way you start it to finish it is CONDESCENDING, to say the least. I can only imagine you are friends with a moderator or the like, for this post to have even made it to sticky form, especially since its tone is such. (condescending)
 

mantiszn

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actually he got banned by the mods - he is now called cannabisguru

he's rude arrogant and ignorant... hopefully he'll get banned again :D

why this article is a sticky i have no idea? This article leaves MANY unanswered potential questions, simply about the little information that is posted here. Leave 10-15% moisture (which I disagree with) but in any case, how ridiculous, how does one determine that, since you said your post explains everything so well in understandable English? Must have missed that, no wait, nothing in your article mentioned that.

A real shame, & for the record, just because "someone doesnt get it"... with all the INFORMATION that it is lacking, well, means absolutely nothing. Your post from the way you start it to finish it is CONDESCENDING, to say the least. I can only imagine you are friends with a moderator or the like, for this post to have even made it to sticky form, especially since its tone is such. (condescending)
 

thexception

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actually he got banned by the mods - he is now called cannabisguru

he's rude arrogant and ignorant... hopefully he'll get banned again :D
I have seen "cannabisguru" around the site & I surely recalled that avatar before; I don't recall anything especially about that username negative or positive, so I guess that is a good thing...for now.

Ok, so what I don't understand is, if...he was banned on a permanent basis, why then was he allowed to come back, even under a different name? or maybe the ban was temp & he decided to start fresh w/a new username? In any event thanks for the heads up. I mean, the post with the attitude might even had been palatable IF the information was clear & concise as he portrays it to be.
 

r1tony

New Member
Do u completely trim fan leaves and as many sugar leaves from the plant before you hang it?
I do.. when I place the buds in my drying bins they are ready to go into jars when they are done drying. I think it is easier to do this before drying your buds but many people still wait after the fact. You can try both and see which way you like best, I don't think there is a real definitive answer which way is "best" but both work just as well.
 
Thanks for the post im drying now and have some already curing and it seems im doing it correct just gotta leave my jars open a lil longer.
 

GRONK

Member
can u please explain weather to cure in the sun or in heat ECT because every place on earth and season is diff inside is diff to outside, when in hotter temps moisture builds up more + do u cover the jar to make it dark or leave in light u left alot out hopefully u can understand this english?
 

mantiszn

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NO heat... NO sun...

can u please explain weather to cure in the sun or in heat ECT because every place on earth and season is diff inside is diff to outside, when in hotter temps moisture builds up more + do u cover the jar to make it dark or leave in light u left alot out hopefully u can understand this english?
 

Oban

Active Member
Thank you very much, I am just about to harvest for the first time and this answers all my questions. Great post.
 

farmersmurf

Active Member
:clap::sleep::cuss::dunce:
I don't use plastic to cure my bud. Glass is where it is at for a number of reasons.

I do want to add that curing isn't a witchcraft or roll of the dice. There is an actual science behind it and success can be duplicated over and over, following the same method. There is no science to opening a jar every time the grandfather clock chimes. That is just nonsense. The processes in the jar aren't keeping track of time, however humidity in the jar is an indicator of when to burp. In order to know what the RH is inside the jar, why not use a hygrometer, like a cigar humidor?

The goal is to jar around 70% RH and burp your way down to 55%, slowly. Once you get the RH below 63% - 65%, you can start burping only once every couple of days. You want to retain the moisture as long as possible, while still burping occasionally. The time between burpings gradually increases as the RH decreases. You can hygrometers for 5-$7 on eBay....

https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog9093-2-half-days-fast-when.html:clap:



Who cares lmao just hang it up to dry for 4-6 days and then cut the buds off and put em in a paper bag for a day or two then in a jar. for 30 days or longer lmao that is really pretty how you have them drying but idk it isnt a science at all its common sense and patience. nothing more or less.
 

KlosetKing

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:clap::sleep::cuss::dunce:

Who cares lmao just hang it up to dry for 4-6 days and then cut the buds off and put em in a paper bag for a day or two then in a jar. for 30 days or longer lmao that is really pretty how you have them drying but idk it isnt a science at all its common sense and patience. nothing more or less.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it IS a science, and its why so many people fuck it up so often (i have myself, i wont lie). Here is just a TIDBIT of the science happening inside that jar:

Naturally, as the metabolic processes continue during curing, the conversion of cannabergerol to tetrahydrocannabinol will continue and the potency of the pot will increase. This is because cannabergerol (CBG) is the non-psychoactive precursor for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). Of course, the exact change in THC content will necessarily be dependant upon the concentration of CBG in the fresh material at harvest. Of course any remaining precursors necessary to form additional cannabidiol (CBD) and other cannabinoids will also be consumed and converted.

I would get into Decarboxylation, but i think you get the idea. It IS science. Whether you understand it or not is another story....
 

Blunted247

Active Member
yup, people make things harder then they really are sometimes... Even i myself am guilty of this. It happens! But.. What i have done for everyone.. Is broken down the drying and curing process.. To where even the noobs can understand how to properly dry.. And cure their pride and loved harvest.

Alright, as for drying... This is probably the easy part compared to the curing process.. But again.. Even curing isn't that difficult.

On the day of your harvest... You need to do the following: Hang your buds up.. With some type of string/thread or even fishing line will work. Hang them up.. And only let them dry.. Until only the outer sides of the buds feel dry.. And.. The stem bends (might even crack some and thats okay) but doesn't break. (if the stem breaks in two when bent.. You have "over dried" the buds.. Or in other words.. You have let out too much if not all of the buds moisture content.. And its pretty much too late now.. It can be fixed.. But its a pain in the ass.. And no matter if it gets fixed or not.. The final product will not taste/smell/smoke like it would have if done properly.)

you don't want to wait until the stem breaks. Why? Well, because by this time.. You have waited too long.. And the buds water content has dropped way to low in percentage by this time (possible to 0%). When air drying.. You want to wait until the outer part of the bud feels dry.. And the stem bends.. But doesn't break. Then you can start your curing.

Once the outer side of the buds are dry.. And the stems bend but doesn't break into two pieces.. This is the optimal time to start the "curing process".

Now, let me explain some things to everyone.

You need to be careful with what information you chose to read and follow. Why? Because the internet is filled with all kinds of information.. Good and bad.. Not only good and bad.. But some of it is correct.. But.. Some of it is also incorrect. In fact, 70% of the material you read on the internet about growing cannabis.. Is actually incorrect. Why so much incorrect info? Well, its sad to say.. But 70% of the information (articles) you read about growing cannabis.. Is incorrect because its mostly written by young immature teenagers that "think" they know it all.. But in fact they don't know what they're talking about. It's true! If you want some correct and good information on growing.. Check out hightimes magazine or just simply go and buy yourself a few books on growing... That way you know the information is at least %99 if not %100 correct because its generally written by experts (people that actually know what the hell they're talking about).


The curing process runs on the same principles as your plants light cycles. You cure in cycles.. Once the outer edges of the bud is dry.. And the stem bends but doesn't break.. And you have put your buds into your jars and have the lids on.. Wait 12 hours until you open the lids of the jars. During this 12 hours.. The moisture from inside the middle of the buds has slowly made its way (evaporated) out of the bud.. But has no way to escape because the lids are still on the jars thus trapping in all that moisture. The evaporating moisture also makes a rise in the humidity inside the jars.. And since its still trapped inside the jars.. It rehydrates the buds to a certain point. Finally, after the first 12 hours of having the lids on.. Take the lids off. The buds should feel a little damp again (but not too wet.. If they feel like a fresh harvested bud.. Then you need to air dry them for a few more days.. Also if they didn't re-hydrate then you've let them air dry too long.) after inspecting the buds to make sure they got a little re-hydrated from being in the jar for 12 hours.. Just leave the lid(s) off of your jar(s) for a good 2 to 4 hours to let the fresh moisture on the buds evaporate.. Then put the lids back on.. And repeat the cycle. See how its kinda like the light cycle? Like that one would be 12hrs/2hrs or 12hrs/4hrs. See how that works now?

Each time you put the lid on.. The humidity inside the jar(s) will slowly evaporate the moisture from inside the middle of the bud as well as the stem thats inside the middle of the bud... Thus raising the humidity level inside the jar like i said before... Then each time you take the lid off.. Your letting that new evaporated moisture from the middle of the bud.. And the stem thats in the middle of the bud.. Evaporate. So, see.. Each cycle of lid on/lid off which is one complete cycle.. Your taking out the moisture bit by bit.. From inside the middle of the bud (and the stem thats inside the middle of the bud).

Now.. You don't want to just keep on repeating cycles until the buds are 100% dry. You want to leave around 10% to 15% water content inside the middle of the buds.. Once they get to around that level of water content.. You can then put them back into their jar(s) and store them without having to worry about "burping" the jars. Also, at this point.. The buds are not only smokable.. But they will smell and taste like they should!

There ya go.. Hopefully i have broken this down so that the ones that don't understand.. Now understand. :wink: (if you still don't get it, you probably never will.. And imo.. You should change professions... Because growing isn't for you)

peace..

Written and edited by: Ganjaluvr 10/01/2010
okay but what temp n humidity to dry at?????? I have it at 67 f...and around 60% humidity....will this leave me with a longer dry period??? I want to be patient n do it the right way....please help!!!! I am on first day drying!! Strawberry cough and kings kush!!!!!! Help!!! Lol :)
 

Severdali

Active Member
is because
1-you live somewhere where the humidity permits you to dry buds at any rate you please and still get a great product

2-you enjoy smoking raspy weed
 

Xcon

Active Member
This info is great, me likey very much. I'm curing for the first time and my biggest fear was mold, after reading dozens of threads from across the interwebs I've taken a lot in but the hygrometer in a jar was the best idea.

Fortunately, after reading this thread I realized that my buds were at 55% humidi-titty and ready to smoke!!! bongsmilie
 
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