Gas Lantern Routine

Dr. Who

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Yeah if the wife catches wind, all you'll be getting is a new Duvet and a fancy set of covers. On the plus side, at least you'd have a comfy spot to dream about those K-80s! :bigjoint:
Oh my, A set of back bored over-under for dbls and an undersingle for singles and handicap, all with a straight bored dbl set with a set of tubes for .20 - .28 -and .410 all chokes incl. top "o" the line wood upgrade....K80 Krieg set at Cabela's GV Mich.....
Been drooling on that for about 8 months......Don't get me wrong as I love my Ceaser Magnus undersingle, but the whole thing with the 28 & 410 for the superhadicap rounds that come up....Not to mention simply the LOOK of that Krieg wood.....

The wife shoots too! She shoots Brownings (and cleans all those damn port holes herself).
 

Dr. Who

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I'm cautious of this GLR, sure if you have a bunch of seeds to try it on ...Go for it, but most here buy their bunch of awf a distant shop, most the times many strains are involved, yet many growers prefer to feed all the strains the same food and the same light..so this GLR may well suit, many members have not the experience to recognize any deformities, and if they do so what...?
in most instances a grow is over in 3 months ..90 days,

but if you are a budding breeder and are enjoying it ...traditional shit does count, stick with the program, so there is once less god-damm issue to deal with
They were gassing in the Netherlands in bloom and did use shorter lights on times in a progressive slide to 8/16.
I will be talking about the 6/18 idea with my friends there this weekend.
 

waterdawg

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Kinda feel there may have been some other underlying problem there dawg....maybe low watt light or something else.
Very likely that it was me lol. And yes if I ever get enough in the jars to guarantee an ample supply I will try it again. The cost savings and interupted electrical use is reason enough even if providing the same yield. My electric bills are outragous here. I did probably run 400w or 4-t5's as thats what I started with. Cant remember the strain but would have been a indica leaning hybrid. As for the gun, i've been getting crap for months now, bought a new extrema in the fall lol.
 

ShirkGoldbrick

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OK, I'll be the one to say it.. Plants need light for photosynthesis, and in an indoor grow light is usually the limiting factor. I don't see how anything can be improved but your electric bill. Less light will lead to more stretching and lower yields. A weed plant can handle 2000ppf/m^2/s before saturation. I'm sure there's a point where you could start with less light and increase throughout veg and flower but I'd start with watts not times. This sounds like nonsense to me. The same quack science that says you can kill yourself by drinking ro water by depleting yourself of minerals. If you believe this boy have I got some colloidal silver to sell you, it's got some amazing health benefits, and agraria is sexy to boot.
 

Dr. Who

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Considering just getting a high rib dbl fitted to the Ceaser Magnus......DAMN pretty gun.....I did get a graycoil installed.....Nice for those 1200 round 3 day weekend shoots at the state grounds
 

RM3

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OK, I'll be the one to say it.. Plants need light for photosynthesis, and in an indoor grow light is usually the limiting factor. I don't see how anything can be improved but your electric bill. Less light will lead to more stretching and lower yields. A weed plant can handle 2000ppf/m^2/s before saturation. I'm sure there's a point where you could start with less light and increase throughout veg and flower but I'd start with watts not times. This sounds like nonsense to me. The same quack science that says you can kill yourself by drinking ro water by depleting yourself of minerals. If you believe this boy have I got some colloidal silver to sell you, it's got some amazing health benefits, and agraria is sexy to boot.
A seedling (my CTF) that is a Sat Dom Hybrid 1st pic taken on Mar 28th, 2nd pic taken this morning. Growing under the Gas Lantern Veg Routine

You seriously could not be more wrong !!!
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Dr. Who

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OK, I'll be the one to say it.. Plants need light for photosynthesis, and in an indoor grow light is usually the limiting factor. I don't see how anything can be improved but your electric bill. Less light will lead to more stretching and lower yields. A weed plant can handle 2000ppf/m^2/s before saturation. I'm sure there's a point where you could start with less light and increase throughout veg and flower but I'd start with watts not times. This sounds like nonsense to me. The same quack science that says you can kill yourself by drinking ro water by depleting yourself of minerals. If you believe this boy have I got some colloidal silver to sell you, it's got some amazing health benefits, and agraria is sexy to boot.
This is the same "quack" science that brings you Pointsetta's every year! They veg them 12/1 and have been doing it for years and years and years that way...
Like I said.....READ the Nelson's Greenhouse Guide, chapter 12....
AND, Once you hit flower,,,12/12 is actually unnatural as hell! Less is more and lowering blooming times on slow maturing plants IS effective by lowering lighting time with NO effect to yields.
 

RM3

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This is the same "quack" science that brings you Pointsetta's every year! They veg them 12/1 and have been doing it for years and years and years that way...
Like I said.....READ the Nelson's Greenhouse Guide, chapter 12....
AND, Once you hit flower,,,12/12 is actually unnatural as hell! Less is more and lowering blooming times on slow maturing plants IS effective by lowering lighting time with NO effect to yields.
I'm currently down to 9 on, headin for 6 :)
 

guardogz

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Right after the skunk mag article i went from 18/6 to 6/18 for flowering. some of the plants were in 24/0 also. i ve got dinachem, freedom haze and 2 unknown from seed. The haze plant stretched more than dc, and the one plant from seed stretched the most. plants will be at 8 weeks of flowering may 15. plants took 9 days to show flowers after the flip. using much less water. not sure about nutes cause i just use aact teas and dont have a ppm tester. growing in recycled soil. do have my plant yields from last grow to compare to. Thanks Dr w for your synopsis of the article. i think the basis for the 5.5 to 6 hour light sched was that the plant slows down after 6 hrs of high intensity light. otherwise plants seem healthy, swelling up pretty well and the dc is getting frosty.
 

Gaz29

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The whole 'natural' thing...
The OP said that sleeping only 6 hours was unnatural. No where on earth do cannabis plants get 18 hours sunshine....
He then went on to advise 12 on, 5.5 off 1 on 5.5 off....

It MAY be effective but it sure aint 'natural'.

However, i'm not the organic recycled sandal wearing type...
So I think I'll try this on a few Indica's, next grow.

I'm pure INDOOR with limited space AND time so I cannot devote myself to Sat's.
Maybe in Siberia (ruderalis) and alaska..!?
 

rosco79

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Hey all, i'd just like to say ive been using this method for some time now on several different strains and can say it works, during the veg I can say for sure its made a huge difference the plants are more healthy and more resilient. I'm even using it now on my mothers and clones and all is exactally the same as when they were on 18/6.

I'm about to start using it in the flower stage as well so will keep you all updated, I think when you look at how a plant grows and understand that during darkness the plant is not sleeping but still working away, you start to see the benefits of this method.

All I can say is im a changed person now and would recomend this to anyone to save on bills and help with plants health.

I'd say it took a good 2-4 weeks for me to start to see any changes in plants.

Go on have a go what's to loose :)
 

jpizzle4shizzle

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Warning: make sure lights are close enough to seedlings when starting out. I didnt and had some crazy stretch, other than that awesome veg routine im glad I stumbled upon it. Awesome growth and the internodal spacing is perfect before they were too close together and hard for airflow.

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MOON SHINER

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I switched to the GLR (Gas Lantern Routine) for Veg only, almost a year ago. Have not looked back since. I even keep my pepper and tomato plants in it and they seem to love it as well.

As far as increased yields, I personaly can't prove that but it did knock a week off my flower time, flower set is any wear from 5-12 days sooner depending on strain and pheno type. I have noticed a lot more bud sites growing but I attribute some of this to the age of the Doner (Mother) Plants, some are coming up on 2 years now. No doubt though that the GLR is a great method.

My yields are respectable so I was looking more for electricity savings so I can run more lights. :blsmoke:

My only advice is to make sure you have 2 lights in your GLR room for veg. I had a ballest failure and had there only been one light, it may not have worked out as well :hump:
 

CC Dobbs

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So has anyone here heard of the Gas Lantern Routine? Its basically an old school lighting technique used to fool plants to stay in veg. using less light. So here is how it works. I have been using it for a few years, and figure its time to let the cat out of the bag.

There has been a lot of talk in the grow community about the fading of a plant's (clones most times) vigor, and personal traits. A lot of people also have problems with hermaphrodites and out of whack hormone induced issues as well. Long story short, 24/0 and 18/6 light techniques stress your plants out and are impractical unless you are trying to pre-sex your plants and quickly hustle them back into a veg. state.

So basically this old school method is being brought to light again in the newer generations of the grow community. The GSR has been turning growers into believers with the awesome results. Not only does it prevent hermes, and build up hormone levels, it also speeds up the veg. phase since your plants grow more with less. And by more I mean faster and more vigorous!
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The veg. phase

12 hours ON
5.5 hours OFF
1 hour ON
5.5 hours OFF
and repeat until you wish to flower.
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The flowering phase:

12 hours on 12 hours off for 1st two weeks

After 14 days you decrease the plant's light by a half hour every week so that the last week of flowering the plant is only receiving 9 hours of light and 15 hours of darkness.
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So basically since you are building hormones up by letting your plant sleep so much, your flowering stage is gonna result in EXPLOSIVE OVERDRIVE in resin production far beyond a normal 12/12 lighting schedule. After all everything on this earth needs sleep. This 24/0 and 18/6 lighting periods are useless! Where on Earth (that weed grows naturally and happily outdoors) is there a place that receives 18 hours of light or more a day?

This method during the flowering phase mimics the suns lighting phase during the fall, indoors. The more we mimic outdoors the happier plants are indoors. And all the extra hour in the middle of the veg phase schedule does is trick the plant to remain in veg. with the least amount of light and best results. Not to mention that, but the you are using up to 5 hours or more of light a day with healthier end results. LESS IS MORE! Less money paid to the electric company, less time being spent on bulbs making them last longer! Amongst other ups, like fooling the electric company a bit with your weird light schedules, and faster growing weed, shorter veg times resulting in less time and power being paid to the electric company every cycle from cutting/seedling to harvest time!

Enjoy!

The Reefer Creature.
I use those techniques regularly and they work great. If your strain is a little fussy than you can have problems with the veg schedule but if not your plants will grow as fast as with 18/6.

If you are using a flipbox then you can veg in one room and flower in another. For the veg room you can hang a cfl over the canopy and have that light come on for the 1 hour interval to keep everyone veging properly.
 
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