General Hydroponics Ripen Stage? Dying?

maximum

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Anyone have experience with the ripen stage of the general hydroponics nutrients. Im trying to figure something out here and I suspect when I switched to ripen its not leting my plant get enough nutes and its drying up and dying.
 
need more information, what are you growing, soil or hydro...pics would be good. and by ripen do you mean the bloom from GH, the orange stuff?
 

homebrewer

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What are you feeding them at this stage? I know koolBloom dry is included. How much and what else in what quantities are you adding?
 

maximum

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Its growing in 10Liter Bucket hydro. Im using general hydroponics nutrients. Everything was perfect no bugs, healthy green leaves. I was using aggressive bloom cycle which I got off their website nutrient calculator 26.4milli floramicro and 52.8milli flora bloom. I have only used the 3 flora series for my grow. I then switched from aggressive growth to Ripen stage 6.6milli floramicro and 19.8milli florabloom. One plant dried up and died within 48 hours. My tomato plant is also drying up and dying. My second marijuana plant didnt die but leaves show signs of nutrient defficiency and when I touch some of them they are dry. I suspect its going to dry up and die if I just leave it like this for another week.


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homebrewer

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I'm assuming the 26 and 52 mls are total volume, and in that case, that's just too much. I suspect that you have some build up on your roots or medium which is now taking it's toll regardless of what you're feeding them. What are you using for your water source? With my tap water, I'll run 7mls/gallon of micro and 10mls/gallon of bloom. An average plant doesn't need more than that and I say that because I grow 3 different strains from 3 different mothers and even that would be a little strong for one of them. Do you have a TDS meter? For an imediate fix, flush for a few hours with a Clearex type solution and then maybe go 7mls/gallon micro with 8mls/gallon bloom.
 

maximum

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I'm assuming the 26 and 52 mls are total volume, and in that case, that's just too much. I suspect that you have some build up on your roots or medium which is now taking it's toll regardless of what you're feeding them. What are you using for your water source? With my tap water, I'll run 7mls/gallon of micro and 10mls/gallon of bloom. An average plant doesn't need more than that and I say that because I grow 3 different strains from 3 different mothers and even that would be a little strong for one of them. Do you have a TDS meter? For an imediate fix, flush for a few hours with a Clearex type solution and then maybe go 7mls/gallon micro with 8mls/gallon bloom.
Total volume? I have my 10liter bucket so thats like 2.5 gallons. I use tap water. So for every 2.5 gallons of water I was using 26.4milli floramicro and 52.8milli flora bloom. I got it from the generalhydroponics website. Does it sound like its too high for you? So the problem here is that it got built up on the roots? Would that make the leaves start looking like they are in the pics? I will try to flush and do the amounts you suggested. I dont have a TDS meter. Im pretty angry if its me using too much, I tried my best to follow every instruction and tutorial and in the end its the genhydro nutes suggested on their website that fucked me.
 

Banditt

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Total volume? I have my 10liter bucket so thats like 2.5 gallons. I use tap water. So for every 2.5 gallons of water I was using 26.4milli floramicro and 52.8milli flora bloom. I got it from the generalhydroponics website. Does it sound like its too high for you? So the problem here is that it got built up on the roots? Would that make the leaves start looking like they are in the pics? I will try to flush and do the amounts you suggested. I dont have a TDS meter. Im pretty angry if its me using too much, I tried my best to follow every instruction and tutorial and in the end its the genhydro nutes suggested on their website that fucked me.

yeah I have found the GH formulations are too strong even at the normal recommended dosage. The aggressive bloom schedule has to be even worse. I'd say with the amounts your putting in chances are you have toxicities over deficiencies. Luckily your pretty well into the final stage of bloom and you can probably get away with just giving plain ph'd water for the next week or two.
 

homebrewer

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Yeah, the GH recommendations are just averages across all plants and all environments. Can't fault them too much as they can't make a schedule for every species of plant out there. I went years without a TDS meter and while it's possible to dial in something that works for your plants over time, it's MUCH easier to get a meter so you can dial in something that works NOW. During the ripen stage, you may want to be between 900-1100 ppm depending on your strain, which is roughly the measurements that I recommended earlier. A flush would help too.
 

maximum

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Thanks guys. I have some questions now.

1) 7mls/gallon of micro and 10mls/gallon this is for bloom stage?
2) Since I am near the end of the plants life, if I was using too much nutes wouldnt have their been signs earlier? Did I miss something?
 

Banditt

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Thanks guys. I have some questions now.

1) 7mls/gallon of micro and 10mls/gallon this is for bloom stage?
2) Since I am near the end of the plants life, if I was using too much nutes wouldnt have their been signs earlier? Did I miss something?

1) That sounds like a pretty good amount to start out with. It's significantly less than you were using before according to the amounts in post #6.
2) I'm sure there were some signs earlier and you just did not notice. The damage you are showing most likely did not happen within a couple days to a weeks time. It's takes a while for leaves to get that damaged. Have you put any new additives in recently as well? Liquid koolbloom, dry koolbloom anything along those lines?
 

maximum

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1) That sounds like a pretty good amount to start out with. It's significantly less than you were using before according to the amounts in post #6.
2) I'm sure there were some signs earlier and you just did not notice. The damage you are showing most likely did not happen within a couple days to a weeks time. It's takes a while for leaves to get that damaged. Have you put any new additives in recently as well? Liquid koolbloom, dry koolbloom anything along those lines?
I didnt add anything. I did add a refined sugar intended to swell the buds. Regarding the nutes all I did was drop from aggressive bloom, to ripen. Has that ever caused issues for you guys?
 

Where am I

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I didnt add anything. I did add a refined sugar intended to swell the buds. Regarding the nutes all I did was drop from aggressive bloom, to ripen. Has that ever caused issues for you guys?
I heard of adding karo syrup during the final phase but just with RO water.
 

Cali.Grown>408

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I didnt add anything. I did add a refined sugar intended to swell the buds. Regarding the nutes all I did was drop from aggressive bloom, to ripen. Has that ever caused issues for you guys?
a refined sugar? how did u do that? what kind of refined sugar? and how much Micro, Bloom , Grow did you give it per gallon?? how do you measure your nutrients??
 
Its growing in 10Liter Bucket hydro. Im using general hydroponics nutrients. Everything was perfect no bugs, healthy green leaves. I was using aggressive bloom cycle which I got off their website nutrient calculator 26.4milli floramicro and 52.8milli flora bloom. I have only used the 3 flora series for my grow. I then switched from aggressive growth to Ripen stage 6.6milli floramicro and 19.8milli florabloom. One plant dried up and died within 48 hours. My tomato plant is also drying up and dying. My second marijuana plant didnt die but leaves show signs of nutrient defficiency and when I touch some of them they are dry. I suspect its going to dry up and die if I just leave it like this for another week.


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You should use flora series until about 2 weeks before you think they will be ready then start a new mix and you just uze ripen on its own nothing else for the last two weeks works a treat finishes them of makes the pods swell defo adds weight but you must use it on its own
 

mjinc

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You should use flora series until about 2 weeks before you think they will be ready then start a new mix and you just uze ripen on its own nothing else for the last two weeks works a treat finishes them of makes the pods swell defo adds weight but you must use it on its own
You might want to look at the date on those posts. They're from six years ago
 
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