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Going organic remixing old promix

Discussion in 'Organics' started by swedsteven, May 26, 2017.

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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    The plant love the tea .
    Did a foliar with it to
    4 days ago treat them with bug b gone because off aphid now there good no more sucker lol rinse them the nex day then foliar tea
    Organic mix
    They look better since i give them the tea nitrogen boost pure tea 1500ml each
    Make them darker a little
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    Botanicare liquid nute i give them the tea and foliage tea but i cut it 1/4 strenght for them
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    Keep it green !!
     
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    Johnei

    Johnei Well-Known Member

    No blood meal. Good. Reading post1 that's all I was gonna suggest. I've been growing organic reusing the same soil for almost 10years now, and Alfalfa is my main N in the mix, along with everything else you have in there you should have enough different forms of N to never have a prob with green healthy plants. A thought for you; Nitrogen fixing bacteria pull N from the atmosphere which is mostly N. Grow those microbes! You know when you water and the water is flowing down through the medium, it is pulling air in behind it, air rich in N, but only unlockable by certain microbes. ;) High Nitrogen fertilizers are not needed as much as you'd think, when growing organically. The plant takes care of itself.
     
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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    Update
    Organic mix

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    Botanicare
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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    Organic mix seem more happy leaf are praying and are shaping nicely .but the grow kick when i give them the tea maybe i shoud give it right away when i transplant them next time.

    Botanicare side grow faster but the leaf are twisting and look like mutan. but still green . little bit like my dyna gro nut in the bigining then they explode with no more twisting.

    So the organic side start stronger !!
     
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    swedsteven

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    Update they are sleeping
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    Organic mix
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    Botanicare liquid nute
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    swedsteven

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    I start flowering 3 days
    Only difference i see that botanicare side havve yelllow tip at half strenght and organic mix is dark green With no yellow tip .
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    Organic mix
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    Botanicare liquid mix
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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    Say cheese
    Love the organic soil i did not cook my soil just 2 tea and tap water ! Dark green

    Soil mix organic
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    Botanicare liquid nute in reuse promix 1/4 cup off dolomite per cubic foot

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    swedsteven

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    2 Week flowering update
    Organic side seem more small with closer node and still is dark green .
    Botanicare side look good but tip off leaf are litte burn ill stop the half grow and use there bloom at 100 percent
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    Right side organic left botaicare

    Organic mix
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    Botanicare side
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    swedsteven

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    Soil ph runoff

    Botanicare side ph :5,6
    Did not put enought dolomite next one ill put 1 cup for every 2 cubic foot

    Organic soil ph:6.8
    Little to much OysterShell cut it half for the next soil mix .
     
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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    Week 3 flow
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    Organic
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    swedsteven

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    Next mix
    I found that my mix is a little hot so ill give less fish bone meal my npk is 14-22-17 and with half of a cup of fish bone meal my next mix will be 13-14-17

    Old promix (120 ppm ph 5.6)2/3 mix
    Worm casting compost 1/3 mix
    Down To Earth Alfalfa Meal 5lbs 1cup
    Down To Earth Crab Meal 5lbs 1cup
    Down To Earth Fish Bone Meal 6lbs 1/2cup
    Down To Earth Kelp Meal 5lbs 1cup
    Down To Earth Langbeinite 5lbs 1/2cup
    Down to Earth OysterShell 6lbs 1/2cup
    Neem meal 3lbs 1cup
    for every 2 cubic foot .56 liter
     
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    swedsteven

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    4 week flow
    Organic got a worm casting compost tea 3 tea and tap water since they start
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    Organic grow smell stronger and more fruity . I went back to 1/2 strenght on the botanicare side and half grow half bloom they where yellowing to fast with just bloom
     
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    Johnei

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    Absolutely AMAZING this thread! ..the way you have kept track and documented. Keep up the absolutely superb job grow bro! Your veg tea from a page back, just wanna say, it's exactly spot on precicely the same measurements I would do, exactly. Spot on bro!
    Do you have a high P(Indonesian) guano for crazy flower tea. This is the thing that can make organic yields compete with synth, and the extra Indonesian forest fruit compounds it introduces and unique microbes that wou;dn't be there otherwise, a game changer. I know some people are very against guanos, but Indonesian no way they hurt any ecosystem in my opinion, it is so vast, and many more secret caves for bats there untouched. Another thing, about pH 6.8 you mentioned. This is dead on man. I would not change a thing.

    Good Growing.
    I'm impressed.
    I'm learning here.
     
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    swedsteven

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    Yield look better in the organic mix
    Compare to botanicare.
    But true that syntetic nutrient are easy to tweak

    Your saying guano tea for flowering hum will try that!
    Next grow thx side by side .

    my old promix was to acide but now ph is better so a little less it ok that info was give to me from rastaroy trusted grower who help me build my recipe .
     
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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    2 days before 5 Week flowering.
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    Botanicare--------------organic

    Organic mix happy healty green
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    Botanicare when to 2/3GROW FOR 1/3 BLOOM was still yellowing Half strengh .
    Npk9-8-9,5
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    Keep it green !
    Next grow am thinking of going for 2/3 of my grow organic 18 pot on 27 .
    right now i have 9 pot of 5 gallon in organic mix .
     
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    swedsteven

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    6 week flow
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    Organic
    They got a tea 3 days ago with fish bone meal and kelp 3 different compost and molases 48 hours brew
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    Botanicare mix still 2/3grow 1/3 bloom
    Half strenght
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    Not sure but botanicare side have bigger buds maybe I miss the bat guano tea on the organic side for a fast phosphor boost in the 3 week of flowering.
     
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    swedsteven

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    47 day flowering
    3 pot on 9 of the organic mix are yellowing very fast so i add some botanicare grow 1 ml a liter 3 day ago and it look like it stop the yellowing .
    Next round i dont think they will yellow cause it still remain old ammendment so it will add up on my next mix .

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    ... next one will be better i will top feed my next round at 2 week flowering with péruvienne guano and 4 week flowering (langbeinite?)potassium) with compost .
     
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    Thai_Lights

    Thai_Lights Well-Known Member

    Good thread appreciate your documentation.
     
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    swedsteven

    swedsteven Well-Known Member

    53 days of 12/12
    Should be ready in a week
    Start flushin botanicare side sunday
    Organic mix is yellowing fast next time i Will top feed them with peruvien sea bird guano.
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    Organic
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    Botanicare
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    swedsteven

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    8 week fowering still a lot of white !

    Organic
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    Botanicare
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