Golden Apple Seeds

COGrown

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Hey everybody! Now that there's a decent number of people out there who are growing my gear, and many more that have it thanks to Shoe at Headie Gardens, I thought I would finally get around to posting a thread for my beans.

For those of you who may be unfamiliar with me, I've been a forum member here and several other places for quite a few years, usually using the name Clankie. I've been growing cannabis off and on here in Colorado since 2001, and growing it nonstop since around 2009.

I believe in purpose-driven breeding, and am trying to mostly create new and unique strains for the cannabis community. The one guiding principle of all my breeding programs was inspired by Chimera, who said, to paraphrase, 'If the offspring of a cross do not exceed the parents in terms of quality, then there is no point.'

I'm not a particularly commercial farmer, but I do run through around 150-200 seed plants per year, and usually find one or two males that have all the traits I look for in breeding stock.

I've got crosses with two different males floating around, one with an exceptionally beastly Apollo 11g f4 male from Bodhi Seeds, and the other with a very stout and branchy Tranquil Elephantizer Remix male, also from Bodhi Seeds. For those who are unfamiliar, the genetics on the Tranquil Elephantizer Remix are (ndnguy's 88g13hp Deadly G female x Snow Lotus male.)

From the Apollo crosses, I have seen increased vigor and yield, varying degrees of added pineapple and melon terps, and a shortened flowering time. The crosses floating around are:

Panty Melt (GSC forum x Apollo 11g f4): faster vegetative time and much higher yield than the cookies, but still retaining very dense buds, great frost, and a more head affecting high. Both females I have grown also have varying degrees of pink and purple coloration from the mother cut that shows up later in flowering.
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Snow Wookie x Apollo 11g f4: these have shown to be high yielding, frosty, and vigorous plants, with a wide variety of fruity terps from both parent lines ranging from the lavender touched grapefruit and grape of the mother used to the melon and pineapple terps of the father. I've got 20 of these going now that will be going in to flowering in a few weeks, but these pictures are courtesy of lovellstreet on IG, who got them as freebies through Headie Gardens.
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Pura Vida x Apollo 11g f4: I sent a bunch of these out, but have yet to see any of them grown; which is a shame because the Pura Vida mom was a real stunner, with vanilla skunky pine terps and just beautiful frosty buds. The only downside of the mother cut was her viney nature from the HPK, wich is similar to that of my GSC cut, and will hopefully be similarly affected by the Apollo male. If anyone has these and can run them, I will send out another pack of any strain I have available.

That's it for now, I'll post pictures and info for the Tranquil Elephantizer Remix crosses next.
 

blu3bird

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Those snow wookie x Apollo 11 look really nice

Any chance you could point me in the direction of a bank where I can buy a pack of those?
 

COGrown

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Those snow wookie x Apollo 11 look really nice

Any chance you could point me in the direction of a bank where I can buy a pack of those?
Those were initially sent to Headie Gardens (on instagram) for w/ any purchase freebies. You can reach out to him to see if he has any left. I am running 20 of these at the moment, and once i've seen enough in flower to have a good feel for it and name it i will be sending sale packs in to him and possibly some other USA banks. The way USPS refuses to track packages outside of the US has me a bit wary of working with overseas banks.
 

blu3bird

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Damnit, I don't do Instagram. Thanks for the prompt reply though. Please post back in this thread when there's packs available for sale at other banks. I'd like to give those a try.
 

COGrown

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Got a swxa11 any updates?
I just finished flowering some females of this, I think its a pretty good strain but I think it will remain as a freebie for the time being. There's a lot of tropical fruit terps in it, and its a harder hitter than most fruity smokes. I'm going to run three of them again, one wookie leaner that smells like lavender and chem, one more 50/50 that has a pineapple and black pepper smell, and one that is reminiscent of the snow wookie with a strong perfumey and tropical flower scent.

I just finished some seed production using two different frosty males from Bodhi's Ancient OG release ('72 Iranian x Snow Lotus)

So right now if people are interested in addition to the above Apollo 11 crosses, I've made

Nepali Meds (CBD OG pheno) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Norcal Fire OG (Cabin Fever) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Girl Scout Cookies (forum) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Z7 (1:1 THC:CBD cut) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Tranquil Elephantizer f2s (Snow Lotus pheno female or Deadly G pheno female available individually or together)

Banana Kush (clone only) x Ancient OG
Larry OG x Ancient OG
Durban Poison x Ancient OG
Ancient OG f2s
 

Jp.the.pope

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I just finished flowering some females of this, I think its a pretty good strain but I think it will remain as a freebie for the time being. There's a lot of tropical fruit terps in it, and its a harder hitter than most fruity smokes. I'm going to run three of them again, one wookie leaner that smells like lavender and chem, one more 50/50 that has a pineapple and black pepper smell, and one that is reminiscent of the snow wookie with a strong perfumey and tropical flower scent.

I just finished some seed production using two different frosty males from Bodhi's Ancient OG release ('72 Iranian x Snow Lotus)

So right now if people are interested in addition to the above Apollo 11 crosses, I've made

Nepali Meds (CBD OG pheno) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Norcal Fire OG (Cabin Fever) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Girl Scout Cookies (forum) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Z7 (1:1 THC:CBD cut) x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1
Tranquil Elephantizer f2s (Snow Lotus pheno female or Deadly G pheno female available individually or together)

Banana Kush (clone only) x Ancient OG
Larry OG x Ancient OG
Durban Poison x Ancient OG
Ancient OG f2s
What Durban did you use with that ancient og?

All those AOG crosses sound killer :) good work
 

COGrown

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What Durban did you use with that ancient og?

All those AOG crosses sound killer :) good work
There's a cut of Durban that has been in CO since at least 2009 that is just absolutely fire. Very short and bushy with very dense buds and a crazy strong unique Durban taste. Totally unmistakable if you've ever had it. I got it as a clone in 2010.
 

Jp.the.pope

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There's a cut of Durban that has been in CO since at least 2009 that is just absolutely fire. Very short and bushy with very dense buds and a crazy strong unique Durban taste. Totally unmistakable if you've ever had it. I got it as a clone in 2010.
CO here myself. I was hoping that was the cut you used :) haven't had a chance to run it myself, but been smoking on her for years.

Very nice :bigjoint:
 

COGrown

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I finally saw someone grow out my Pura Vida x A11g f4 cross, and they did a really nice job.
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Smell sounds about right, the A11g f4 male definitely brings tropical flavors and yield, while the Pura Vida (HPK x Appalachia) female had vanilla, marshmallow, pine, and skunk notes; as well as intense frost and excellent calyx to leaf ratio that makes trimming a breeze.
I think I'm going with their suggestion and calling this one Pure Genius. Will again be available through the same source in the near future.
 

Yodaweed

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I finally saw someone grow out my Pura Vida x A11g f4 cross, and they did a really nice job.
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Smell sounds about right, the A11g f4 male definitely brings tropical flavors and yield, while the Pura Vida (HPK x Appalachia) female had vanilla, marshmallow, pine, and skunk notes; as well as intense frost and excellent calyx to leaf ratio that makes trimming a breeze.
I think I'm going with their suggestion and calling this one Pure Genius. Will again be available through the same source in the near future.
Those are some monster buds, great job on that bro.
 

COGrown

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Those are some monster buds, great job on that bro.
Its not my grow, i just made the seeds, and that person grows great weed in general, but those do seem to be the fattest buds on his insta feed lately. The parents on that one were both really incredible. Kind Love here in Denver has been running that Pura Vida cut I used as a mom since 2014 I think, (I got it early 2015) and quality wise they might be the best shop in town.

It was a couple years ago, i think i have more in the Bodhi thread, but this was the Pura Vida mom:
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COGrown

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I'm calling this F1 cross "Midnight Snack", it is the GSC forum cut crossed to a Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1 male from Bodhi seeds circa 2012. So that's GSC x (88g13hp f1 female x Snow Lotus male). I started 5 seeds as a test and got 4 females, all great looking. The male brings great structure, potency, and a hashy rubbery smell. The Forum Cut is pretty dominant in outcrosses, and brings extreme bag appeal, beautiful colors, and loud terps. She is best combined with strains that enhance structure and potency, and the TE:R definitely checks those boxes. These are a fairly slowly growing cross in veg, but they have a highly productive branching structure that will greatly reward those willing to put in the time. Smells so far are chocolate hash, chocolate mint, rubber, fresh tennis-ball, and my favorite (the 50/50) is straight chocolate cake with a hint of mint. I think that this will be an excellent heavier hitting and more productive indica take on the 'dessert' strains, retaining the bag appeal and flavor they are known for.
TE:R dominant pheno
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50/50 pheno
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GSC dominant pheno
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COGrown

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How does one go about getting a few of these crosses?
They've been available via as freebies via a couple banks on IG. Now that I personally have grown a couple different lines each with both the Apollo and Tranquil Elephantizer males I used, I will be making tested lines using those males available for purchase at a US seedbank very soon.
 

COGrown

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Snow Wookie x Apollo 11 G f4
This is available as a freebie with purchases of my genetics. I have four strains that have been grown and tested available for sale through an IG seedbank. I have no idea what RIU's rules about promotion and seedbanks are, but if you search for the hashtag #goldenappleseeds it shouldn't be too hard to find.
The only reason these are a freebie is that the phenotypes on these are a little all over the place due to the Snow Wookie mom. I grew out quite a few of these though, and they are all good plants. They are also very fast, both in veg and in flower, most finishing at 50-56 days. Flowers set fast and mature fast, so I wouldn't expect more than 1.5x stretch with these; but if you veg them properly they can yield quite well, a trait they get from the A11G male I used. Potency ranges from good to extremely good, this pheno that I selected has an extremely strong daydreamy high that is very enjoyable, but makes it very difficult to focus or stay on task. The smell has the most variation across the phenotypes, prominent smells include variations of pineapple, lavender, melon, grape, chem funk (from the Appalachia grandfather in the SW I am guessing), and black pepper. The pictured pheno (and the one that I most enjoy and would recommend) is like a rancid/rotten pineapple, or like if you drank some Mai Tais and then immediately threw up. It's better than it sounds, the taste is mostly pineapple.

The strains available for sale are

Panty Melt (GSC Forum x Apollo 11 G f4)
This is a faster flowering and higher yielding sativa spin on Cookies. More tropical flavors added to the familiar chocolate mint and tennis balls forum cut. Much better structure than the Forum, and I wouldn't expect any to run past 60 days in organic soil. Bag appeal on all phenos is insane, lots of purples and pinks, tons of frost, great bud density. If you are after a heavy hitting potency, look for the slow vegging indica phenos, tight stacking but with shorter branches; these phenos can be extremely strong, but will be lower yielding than the more hybrid phenotypes.

Pure Genius (Pura Vida x Apollo 11 G f4)
The Pura Vida mom used is a beautiful cut, producing very HPK dominant buds on a more structurally friendly Appalachia frame, with a vanilla and pine foreground over skunk. This is my most high yielding cross, and one that is still rewarding for the serious head, as both parents have nice potency. Flavors/terps will include vanilla or yellow cake, pineapple or melon, red berries, and pine. The Pura Vida finished in the 65 day area, the A11g will bring that down a little, but the highest yielding phenos may still run into the 63 day point. A nice sativa hybrid high that is good for creativity or going out.

Healing Hashplant (Z7 x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1)
The Z7 used is a 1:1 THC to CBD cut that regularly tests around 12-14% each sourced from Kind Love here in Denver. Z7's genetics are a cross between Resin's Cannatonic and Mr. Nice's Afghani Skunk created as part of the CBD Crew project a few years back. She grows exactly like a nice afghani skunk hybrid, sort of a shaggy christmas tree style with a fruity skunk smell. The Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1 is another cross from Bodhi seeds of ndnguy's 88g13/hp female (f1 deadly g pheno) to his Snow Lotus male, and it is one of the best strains for pain relief and sleep aid I have ever grown, as well as having an absolutely amazing branching structure. This cross will produce a variety of very colorful indica plants, with a couple more sativa structured phenotypes possible. All phenos had excellent pain relief properties, and are covered in frost; this is an excellent strain for users of tincture or edibles, or other whole plant extract methods for medicinal purposes. It smokes nice and looks nice, but honestly I just made this one to be very good medicine and I think it is that indeed. 56 days finish time tops.

Midnight Snack (GSC x Tranquil Elephantizer Remix v.1)
My indica cookie cross, these show a lot of cookie dominance in the flower structure and the smell, both parents are extremely frosty and the progeny match or exceed in that area as well. Mostly shorter christmas tree or candelabra style plants without the massive internodal spacing of the cookies, but with the excessively long petioles; which in this cross I think is a nice trait as it allows the fan leaves to be pretty large and the internodes tight, while still allowing light to get to buds. These will veg very slowly, but I would recommend letting them get as big as possible because while they will fill out in flowering, most phenos won't stretch very much.
 
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