Good for Organic Grow?

Invisighost

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Hey guys I picked up some cheap Evergreen Soil conditioner and Compost/Manure earlier for my vegetable garden. I was thinking about re-ammending some soil with this for another organic cannabis grow. Has any one ever used this kind or know of any negative benefits this might present?

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Rasta Roy

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I am not familar with that brand but one is composted forest materials and the other is the same but with composted manure so probably a tad more nutrient rich. But yea you should those. Compost should be the cornerstone of all organic grows.
 

Invisighost

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I am not familar with that brand but one is composted forest materials and the other is the same but with composted manure so probably a tad more nutrient rich. But yea you should those. Compost should be the cornerstone of all organic grows.
Ok I thought so but I've personally never used either and didn't know if maybe there were other harmful ingredients in them not to be used with organics..much appreciated
 

Wetdog

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Not sure about that particular brand, but my prefered Pine Bark mulch (and music), comes from Muscle Shoals, Al. and purchased at Lowes. The mulch was nearly white with mycellium.

Just used the last I had as aeration/humus in a reamend mix and don't have the bag for the brand name, but Muscle Shoals is not a very big place, so ....

Pine bark is always part of my mix.
 

Johnei

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Are the chicken from a large commercial chicken jail shoving corn down their throats with a reverse vacuum type device all crowded and diseased needed constant antibiotic and hormone shots?
Are the cows locked in jail with machines sucking the teets being fed grains all day injected with hormones and antibiotics, or free range eating grass?

No idea?
then don't use.
Don't care?
then use.
:)

the pine bark, I would not use in potted herb plants, outdoors yes, in pots, no way hosay.
 

Invisighost

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Are the chicken from a large commercial chicken jail shoving corn down their throats with a reverse vacuum type device all crowded and diseased needed constant antibiotic and hormone shots?
Are the cows locked in jail with machines sucking the teets being fed grains all day injected with hormones and antibiotics, or free range eating grass?

No idea?
then don't use.
Don't care?
then use.
:)

the pine bark, I would not use in potted herb plants, outdoors yes, in pots, no way hosay.
LoL, much appreciated
 

Rasta Roy

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Are the chicken from a large commercial chicken jail shoving corn down their throats with a reverse vacuum type device all crowded and diseased needed constant antibiotic and hormone shots?
Are the cows locked in jail with machines sucking the teets being fed grains all day injected with hormones and antibiotics, or free range eating grass?

No idea?
then don't use.
Don't care?
then use.
:)

the pine bark, I would not use in potted herb plants, outdoors yes, in pots, no way hosay.
Composted pine bark is fine for potting soils and I've had success with shredded pine mulch in potting soil too, the pine mulch was charged with fish fertilizer. It made up about 10% of the mix.
 

Johnei

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I will keep this in mind. Thanks for the info RastaRoy man. I used some mulch before in pots thinking it would provide nice air space, and results were crazy not good, multiple weird deficiencies that I just could not cure, but I admit, it was not pine, nor was it composted. I retract my statement. my bad.
 

Rasta Roy

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I will keep this in mind. Thanks for the info RastaRoy man. I used some mulch before in pots thinking it would provide nice air space, and results were crazy not good, multiple weird deficiencies that I just could not cure, but I admit, it was not pine, nor was it composted. I retract my statement. my bad.
It's not something I would recommend unless you've got some experience under your belt with making potting soils and knowing the conditions and quality you need to achieve. We have access to shredded red pine bark and mulch, it breaks down faster than traditional mulch and is probably more likely to have success that some other hardwood mulches. And if you don't charge the mulch than it will rob N from your soil and your plants will grow like shit.
 

Johnei

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The charging aspect, this is completely new info to me. Never knew, sorta like coco style. hmmmm
This explains the total disaster when I tried using some random mulch shit back in the day.
Excellent info! You are wealth of growing knowledge ma man!
 

Rasta Roy

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The charging aspect, this is completely new info to me. Never knew, sorta like coco style. hmmmm
This explains the total disaster when I tried using some random mulch shit back in the day.
Excellent info! You are wealth of growing knowledge ma man!
Always glad to share! But yeah, it gives you a good source of nutrients for later in the grow season, sort of like biochar. Not as cool but still not a bad trick!
 

Invisighost

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Hey guys I posted this on another thread and have yet to receive an answer and you seem pretty knowledgeable so wondering if maybe can help me with mixing up some soil..heres the link to the stuff I have..I just need to know how much of what I have to mix up to be effective without having to use more nutes throughout the grow if possible..if either of you could take a look and respond that would be great...much appreciated

https://www.rollitup.org/t/help-with-mixing-up-organic-soil.945895/
 

Wetdog

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Are the chicken from a large commercial chicken jail shoving corn down their throats with a reverse vacuum type device all crowded and diseased needed constant antibiotic and hormone shots?
Are the cows locked in jail with machines sucking the teets being fed grains all day injected with hormones and antibiotics, or free range eating grass?

No idea?
then don't use.
Don't care?
then use.
:)

the pine bark, I would not use in potted herb plants, outdoors yes, in pots, no way hosay.
IDK about chicken farms, but, have you ever been to an actual, working dairy? I'm guessing not. But, going by my cousin's 500 acre, 500 head dairy, I can state a few things.

Hormones: I think no, but not 100% on that, so I won't comment.
Antibiotics: If needed, the cow's milk is dumped as antibiotics are forbidden in milk. After treatment, the cow is tested before the milk is used.
Grain feeding: Only during actual milking and the amount is computer controlled according to milk output. Like my cousin said, "That shit is expensive and the grass is free". They spend very little time in the milking barn, under 1/2 hr getting milked. Takes some time milking 500 cows 2x/day and there's other work to be done. 90%+ of the cows time is spent outside eating grass and doing cow stuff.

BTW, I REALLY like the Black Kow composted manure. It's from dairy cows and I'll use 4-6, 50lb bags/season. It flat will not burn and gets used on everything but the youngest seedlings. Good stuff!
 
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