Here is another thing. Once you look at modern research it begins to appear that intersex traits are not simply decided by an X and Y chromosome. It is an autosomal and looks more like an epigenetic issue, so can you ever breed it out with standard breeding schemes? You can do as suggested and select against it as best as possible to minimize affects but I look at it like JW told me, it's a weed and try as you might it ain't always gonna do what you want it to. I've always been open about every aspect of my projects including intersex traits. I believe the overall intersex rate is even posted in here for the bx2 as under 5%. I am a consumer first and I've always advocate consumer education and rights. Once in a blue moon you will see a breeding group mention their intersex issues, not very often. The whole premise of tortured is in reference to the testing on do. This whole thing could have ended up very different and I''ll tell you one dirty little secret I hardly ever talk about. It is also the reason I am not bothered by copycats. Sour Bubble males will toss a pistil easy as pie, the many many females I have grown and tested also do not take much to intersex to varying degrees, in fact I usually find a seed or two in any Sour Bubble mom. I looked and tested hard to find my original sour bubble male. To do it right you had too. The gg4 will intersex a bit as we all know (probably due to the sour bubble lineage). Sour Bubble is easy to intersex but generallty mostly stable in most environments. Now I don't talk about this because idiots will think it is a knock on BOG's work, it isn't at all, the vast majority of cannabis plants will intersex in the right conditions. The varying degrees of intersex are complex and exist in an almost infinite combination of expressions. Those SSH F5 sound lovely and respect to your work. From your word it is fair to say they do not show intersex traits in the conditions you have exposed them too. Are they impossible to get to show intersex overall or stable in your environmental range? How do they react on outcrossing to a known intersex plant? Most plants will intersex simply and easily with root manipulation. Anyone interested can stick your hand in the dirt or bucket or whatever around week 3 or so and give your roots a good fucking up and see if any intersex traits appear. That is the oldest way of making fem seed ha! You do this on your test plants not your flower moms btw. A rough ratio might be 1 out of 10-15 don't intersex that way if you are lucky some lines way worse, depends. Same plants might be run fine in a normal environment and never show the expression. Most breeders aren't testing these things. A good example is the abortion of the filial line at F3 and me going back to redo the filials due to the over 10% intersex rate. Quite a few bad plants seen and quite a few monsters to from those ealier works. Intersex reports have come less and less in the bx project. So you wanna try to do your best but it's like many of us over the years have gotten a pack of beans and they are all male, usually doesn't mean the line is shit, just the packer had the amazing luck of randomly picking ten males. So on average you might find 1 intersex plant in a couple packs of GB or if you are an unlucky bastard they could all be even with a less than 5% overall intersex rate in the bx2's ha! So with all that being said I am comfortable with my work so far, everything has been open since day 1 so everyone should know what is up by now. And with what I consider extremely low intersex rates overall compared to the number of amazing high quality intersex free females being found and shown out of every single pack I am happy with how things turned out. Most are happy with the overfill too ha! That is the only thing I can do to try to offset bad luck a bit. I have bought many packs from all over through the years and got the all male luck lmao! Everything is really perspective to be honest. I know a few that won't touch the GB because it is too strong and tweaks them out, i know plenty that only prefer indica or sativa plants and all manner of personal preference in between. So I guess it depends on your persepective and what you want or are looking for. I have made it very easy for people to become educated about whats to GB and also made it very easy to find the traits they are looking for in the line. I can think 3 guys in the last 3-4 years have had bad enough luck that we hooked em up again. Every person who popped a pack has shown a bad ass female keeper quality pretty much. The Gb stands on her own doesn't she? There has been zero hype and lots of information from my perspective. People get packs hoping for a nice mom, in GB you know you are going to get something that is exactly how you see it being shown. So from there on everybody gotta make a choice about what they are looking for or want but there are no surprises in this line at this point except that better and better moms keep being found ha! Careful not to confuse happy people with hype even though they both start with H ha! The resin production and consistancy in potency has kind of over shadowed the medical stories but many people have had a lot of success with pain, spasms and inflamation. GB is a near pure THC line with some amazing and powerful pain releif affects. It is proven CBD isn't the only viable medicine. Even though there is no hype the resin production and looks make it easy to assume it is a hyped strain. If you got a bad back smoke some and let me know how you feel. Anyway whats out and the Bx4 coming is it for a long while so the people who know what the want and will have it and the record will speak for itself over time. The last 4 years have shown anything you want to know, all at your access at a click. No secrets here except I "lol" at the knockoffs because I know what will happen in a few generations without careful testing and selection.