Bakersfield
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You are confusing the Back cross with the Filial cross. Back Cross 4 should definitely be more homozygous, than the Back cross 1,2, or 3.
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antonioverde
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By bx4 traits begin to segregate. The individual segregated phenos will be very similar however. This is by design in the plan. It makes finding glue leaners easy. A reliable selection of glue leaners from bx4 will have less hidden traits. These will then take about 10 filial generations from those selections to make a true homozygous line. The bx3 has shown the most homogenous groups in large numbers followed by the bx2 with a few sour bubble recessive phenos peaking out in smaller numbers.
It's a lot of work. That's why most people don't commit to doing it. The bxf1 versions will show good hybrid phenos.
The bx4 frequency is probably why rez dog told bog he was going to ruin sour bubble however he didn't have the foresight of what to do with them from there... ie the filials.
I've released all versions as I go so people can ride along the journey and experience a true breeding program as it happens. The last of the bx3 and bx4s just dropped so if you want em nows the time. Happy so many have found pleasure so far. Thanks guys hope this helps clarify things.
This is why I called Mr soul out on saying bx4 C99 is true breeding. He only understood basics of what happens and not the full grasp... bx4 traits start segregating unless you had true homozygous parents to start.
If you want bx3 or bx4 this is the last drop of em. Time to go forward. I won't rule out making more down the line but it isn't the plan anytime soon. Already 5 years into this so I want to go forward. You can already see the benefits of the work on the outcrosses but it will only get better. Sadly most breeders are finding more commercial success doing random one off hybrids but I'm glad so many see the value in my focused work. Cheers!
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antonioverde
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/tonygreens-tortured-beans.949354/page-3
I'll grab some bx1f1 pics for those asking.
There is a thread with 100s of thousands of replies and thousands of plants from growers around the world showing what's up.
Tstat you still on this a year later? There is 5 years of open honest logging of the breeding scheme and progression. In fact I doubt any other strain has such documentation as a resource for her growers. If another breeder has 5 years of intense documentation of progressive breeding let me know. I'd Love to read it
It is what it is. Of the thousands and thousands of beans popped all over the world in hundreds of different environments everyone can see the story and look at numbers and see the results...
Amos you went nuts after me saying sarcastically the line is shit full of herms when there is 5 years of breeding and 5 years of documentation to answer every question possible sorry you can't see that. That's the last time I'll address you two. Peace.
I'll grab some bx1f1 pics for those asking.
There is a thread with 100s of thousands of replies and thousands of plants from growers around the world showing what's up.
Tstat you still on this a year later? There is 5 years of open honest logging of the breeding scheme and progression. In fact I doubt any other strain has such documentation as a resource for her growers. If another breeder has 5 years of intense documentation of progressive breeding let me know. I'd Love to read it
It is what it is. Of the thousands and thousands of beans popped all over the world in hundreds of different environments everyone can see the story and look at numbers and see the results...
Amos you went nuts after me saying sarcastically the line is shit full of herms when there is 5 years of breeding and 5 years of documentation to answer every question possible sorry you can't see that. That's the last time I'll address you two. Peace.
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Stink_fist
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Ignore the haters, your work speaks for itself. straight fire in your beans! Thanks for all your work.
I can't think of a breeder that doesn't have haters...
westcoast420
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Props to you tony for doing that with this line. Theres alot of chuckers out there but cant remember the last time I saw a breeder go through these steps and show and talk about it. Im running the bx3 and have narrowed down to one pheno gb5, that is short, small leaves, thin branches and stretches very little. Buds are compact and tight with a gassy fuel type smell. My next run will be about 30 of these under 7kw. Been supercropping the shit out of them in veg as to get as many sites and tops as possible as this strain really seems to respond to that well.
DirtyEyeball696
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I’ll soon have a whole room of BX2’s. Phenomenal strain
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Bluskadoo
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Is this the case? I’m not all that educated on how the crossing etc works
Stink_fist
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In my opinion the BX2's are the best.
I have the lime gorilla but can't pop them at the moment.
Bluskadoo
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In that case I wish I would have waited before getting trigger happy , I ended up being impatient and ordered some of the bx1 also a good friend has a 20 pack of the bx2 he is going to let me pop and do a side by side and find a prize pick of the 2 and give him a cut so we will see
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Bluskadoo
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Thanks man that’s good to hear! I’m pretty excited!!BX1 is fire too. You're in for a treat with those beans and numbers.
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Amos Otis
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That's a flat out lie. Post quotes, or stfu.
Your attempt at re-writing history is as pathetic as your performance in the original thread that was shut down for your behavior.
Stink_fist
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Looks like you're the one trying to re-write history. The thread wasn't shut down because of his behavior, he asked for it to be closed.
Stink_fist
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You're right. There was enough bullshit before. Let the beans speak for themselves.
antonioverde
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Better yet, someone should put out a notice of herm traits simultaneously when a seed strain is released for sale - see: Breeder's Boutique. I'm glad I decided against them. Now.......are there any additional facts I should know about GB bx2 .... posted by Amos
I replied sarcastically..
Ya it's a complete shit line full of hermit garbage... lol. Let's see all of the strain development threads from all the other breeders that cover years of work....
Anything you need to know has been covered over and over in these threads. Even intersex talk ha.
All downhill from Amos from there... "who needs this bs I got 8 bx2 seeds for the first addy in my inbox"
The insinuation there was some "secret" about gb was insulting and ridiculous when there is 5 years of documentation in a half million reply thread. You popped 2 beans or whatever and have been trashing the line ever since. That's about all the humoring I will reply to you with...
I replied sarcastically..
Ya it's a complete shit line full of hermit garbage... lol. Let's see all of the strain development threads from all the other breeders that cover years of work....
Anything you need to know has been covered over and over in these threads. Even intersex talk ha.
All downhill from Amos from there... "who needs this bs I got 8 bx2 seeds for the first addy in my inbox"
The insinuation there was some "secret" about gb was insulting and ridiculous when there is 5 years of documentation in a half million reply thread. You popped 2 beans or whatever and have been trashing the line ever since. That's about all the humoring I will reply to you with...
DirtyEyeball696
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There’s nothing wrong with the BX2 as far as I can see. The BX4’s would pop a banana or two but mostly at the end of harvest.
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Amos Otis
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LOL. Nice try at favorable editing. FTR, I trashed you, not the line "ever since". I'll say it now the way I said it then - I don't support known assholes, and that's what you revealed yourself to be after your initial pretense of being some poor soul who'd endured a string of unfortunate bad breaks, or some such nonsense.
There...I fixed it for you, antonio.....verde. Muy astuto !
AlaskaBigMike420
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I have BX4 at 52 days and BX1f1 is my new go to strain. I will post pics when I get home on the 7th good looking Tony