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GroErr

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Well thats the thing... i didnt mention that i was seeing some very light bleaching up top because i didnt recognize as such. Never had that problem before. So after reading a specific article/pics... i saw that is what is going on with my plants....

And apparently that bleaching is an indication that the leaves are working very hard sucking up as much nutes as they can and "killing" themselves doing it, and isnt enough so they start canabalizing the lowers looking for more and those are the deficiencies im seeing, likely.

Depending on the intensity of the light and how rapid photosynth is... feeding more nutes can be even more damaging.

Might be barking up the wrong tree, but... its the only thing that makes sense right now. I mean... i just potted up a week ago so salt build up is very unlikely, pH is something i have always been meticulous about and my air exchange isnt so bad that it should cause this, i doubt...lol
Interesting, the theory you describe makes sense. How much do those T4-2100's output each?
 

pinner420

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I'll throw this out not knowing all your variables however I'm running a new strain and just experienceing same shit show in the last 48 hours. I'm personally attributing mine to the following.
1. Not enough preveg horsepower to get them ready for the big show.
2. Just got my burner operational so the went from 300ppm to 1100ppm.
3. Had some heating issues moving from a to b 75f through breezeway -6.
4. Probably number 1.. my shop just was giving away free compost tea and I bit and did a heavy foliar the day before... never use a compost tea you didn't brew yourself.

Remedied by raising the lights to let them settle in and they stopped screaming.

Hope this helps some...
 

Gquebed

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I'll throw this out not knowing all your variables however I'm running a new strain and just experienceing same shit show in the last 48 hours. I'm personally attributing mine to the following.
1. Not enough preveg horsepower to get them ready for the big show.
2. Just got my burner operational so the went from 300ppm to 1100ppm.
3. Had some heating issues moving from a to b 75f through breezeway -6.
4. Probably number 1.. my shop just was giving away free compost tea and I bit and did a heavy foliar the day before... never use a compost tea you didn't brew yourself.

Remedied by raising the lights to let them settle in and they stopped screaming.

Hope this helps some...
#1 certainly is possible... went from a t5s to the cobs but they started 36" high...
 

GroErr

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4x75 watts per light
And i have 4 of them in a 5x9 space, which i run like two 4x4 spaces.
But still.. thats a lot of light bouncing around in there. I have to max dim to work i there...lol
Yeah not seeing it as too much light, you're talking 600w over a 4x4' it's slightly more than needed (for COBs) but not over the top at 37w/sq. ft. it also sounds like you started them in there very high above canopy so it's not like you had them too close either.

You have a ton of variables in how you're now running the environment plus new lights, maybe new strains too(?). That makes it a tough call, trying a few adjustments, ideally one at a time and trial & error focusing on things that make sense to you is all I can suggest. The switch from hps to COBs is really like starting up a new room.
 

Gquebed

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Yeah not seeing it as too much light, you're talking 600w over a 4x4' it's slightly more than needed (for COBs) but not over the top at 37w/sq. ft. it also sounds like you started them in there very high above canopy so it's not like you had them too close either.

You have a ton of variables in how you're now running the environment plus new lights, maybe new strains too(?). That makes it a tough call, trying a few adjustments, ideally one at a time and trial & error focusing on things that make sense to you is all I can suggest. The switch from hps to COBs is really like starting up a new room.
Ya it was a new strain too. I found it to be a bit sensitive even under t5s and hps...
 

GroErr

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Can't have a page with no pics ;) Camshot of the flower room and 2x2 breeding tent.

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In the breeding tent there's a small Harlequin clone and Blue Ripper F2/P5 clone. Center-right is the Blue Ripper F1/P1 male. Flipped to 12/12 last night under 100w of 3570 COBs. Timing worked, tent's available, just going to let them do their thing and open pollinate the fems.

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Growing fast and filling in there.
Cheers JD, last night was 1 week and they've taken off nicely. Looking like the canopy will be fairly even when all's said and done.

They don't take long to fill the empty spaces when they have some elbow room. Noticing they're quickly spreading out their side branches to fill in available space, not a bad thing, should get good light all the way down. Should be a dank run, all my keepers more or less. Will be dropping the Plemon and the small extra 2gal of Blue Ripper x Harlequin P2, the rest are keepers and breeding stock :)
 

GroErr

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Got back to trimming a bit, damn there's a lot of pot to trim. Good thing I have a room they can stay in without getting too dry.

Finished off the Blue Ripper x Harlequin F1/P1 keeper. Definitely a keeper this one, maybe my best pheno going now. Absolute fire, haven't been able to keep my hands off it, smoked about a qtr so far in "testers" lol. Taste is out of this world, everything in it, tropical fruit, candy, sweet, watermelon juice. Smell is so strong my GF was wondering if I'd burned one when I was cleaning it :)

So it got 52g + 7g seeded buds (kept them separate as they were hit with both Blue Ripper & BR x H pollen) + say 5g being generous that I've smoked in testers. So 64g of bud + 13g of trim/popcorn that will easily generate 10% return in sift. That's straight up no training from seed :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Some babies coming up. A mix of clones at the back but the focus is on the 6x cups at the front now. Threw down 8x ACE Panama Regs, 6 popped through looking viable and were up-potted from the 2 oz. germing cups to the big girl cups today. Will grow these out and will be looking for either a special male, female or both. We'll see what happens as they mature :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 

GroErr

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Brother I Thought You Didn't Grow In Party Cups?? Another Question Is Why Haven't You Join In Our Little Competition? You Chicken!!!!! bongsmilie

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Lol, I grow in them, but flowering in those cups is a pita. I was going away when they would have needed daily waterings to win the comp. Plus it wouldn't have been fair, didn't want to put The Dawg to shame ;)

Nice cup :bigjoint:
 
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