growing cannabis without nutes

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strain brain

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i have done a few grows in the past couple of years and i have always wanted to try growing without nutrient but am scared about the outcome
reply if yous can help
 
heathaa

heathaa

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well if you werent gonna give it nutes, you have to do something like put a fish in the bottom of the bucket or real compost or something with nutrients or in one way add nutrients
 
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madodah

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I don't add nutrients. I use an organic grow medium of 25% fortified potting soil (fir bark, forest humus, peat moss, perlite, chicken manure, worm castings, bat guano, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, oyster shell and dolomite lime), 25% peat moss, 25% decomposed cow manure and 25% perlite. I then use an AACT tea at the beginning of vegetation and one after flowering has begun. The soil food web — the complex world of soil-dwelling organisms whose interactions create a nurturing environment for plants.

I suggest you read 'Teaming with Microbes' and you'll never look back at the marketing hype filled world of expensive nutrient supplements. Small book, written in easy to understand layman terms and less expensive than a bottle of highly advertised and overrated nutrients.
 
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makeway

Member
everything needs food to live MJ is no different. there are organic nutrients on the market that will give you zero nute taste when smoked.
 
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madodah

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makeway said:
everything needs food to live MJ is no different. there are organic nutrients on the market that will give you zero nute taste when smoked.
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While not popular on this particular forum, there are a large number of growers, cannabis, personal and commercial vegetable gardens, decorative gardens, a wide rage of agricultural crops and golf courses, that don't use nutrient supplements. Properly prepared organic growing media requires only water and microbe renewal to consistently outproduce chemical and organic nutrient supplemented outdoor yields. While I haven't grown indoors for years other than getting a head start on plants to be raised outdoors, there are many growers on other forums who do grow organically indoors without commercial nutrient supplements and their yields are impressive.

One can choose to play the nutrient supplement game or do some research and ignore it. Organically grown consumables always bring a premium price over their chemically supplemented counterparts, and always taste better, even cannabis. As to cost, to build my AACT brewer and purchase organic tea supplies that will last 3-4 years cost me less than one season of nutrient supplements. Water, neem oil and two tea applications are all the necessities and supplements I need for the entire growing season.

To each his/her own.
 
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Wetdog

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madodah said:
I don't add nutrients. I use an organic grow medium of 25% fortified potting soil (fir bark, forest humus, peat moss, perlite, chicken manure, worm castings, bat guano, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, oyster shell and dolomite lime), 25% peat moss, 25% decomposed cow manure and 25% perlite. I then use an AACT tea at the beginning of vegetation and one after flowering has begun. The soil food web — the complex world of soil-dwelling organisms whose interactions create a nurturing environment for plants.

I suggest you read 'Teaming with Microbes' and you'll never look back at the marketing hype filled world of expensive nutrient supplements. Small book, written in easy to understand layman terms and less expensive than a bottle of highly advertised and overrated nutrients.
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I'm running something very similar and we're 100% on the same page here. :weed:

Making a complete soil so that nothing, or very little needs to be added isn't hard and with the organics is better all the way around.

This, I hope, is what the OP intended, but I got the impression he was thinking of no nutes period and just using an inert soil. Hope I'm wrong about that.

Wet
 
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madodah

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Wetdog said:
I'm running something very similar and we're 100% on the same page here. :weed:

Making a complete soil so that nothing, or very little needs to be added isn't hard and with the organics is better all the way around.

This, I hope, is what the OP intended, but I got the impression he was thinking of no nutes period and just using an inert soil. Hope I'm wrong about that.

Wet
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He won't get far with an inert soil. Hopefully he's doing some research on how to prepare it to avoid remaining in the commercial nute loop craze. I have enough plants to drive me crazy if I had to mix/add nutes in adhering to a feeding schedule. Especially during summer heat.
 
purplekitty7772008

purplekitty7772008

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madodah said:
I don't add nutrients. I use an organic grow medium of 25% fortified potting soil (fir bark, forest humus, peat moss, perlite, chicken manure, worm castings, bat guano, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, oyster shell and dolomite lime), 25% peat moss, 25% decomposed cow manure and 25% perlite. I then use an AACT tea at the beginning of vegetation and one after flowering has begun. The soil food web — the complex world of soil-dwelling organisms whose interactions create a nurturing environment for plants.

I suggest you read 'Teaming with Microbes' and you'll never look back at the marketing hype filled world of expensive nutrient supplements. Small book, written in easy to understand layman terms and less expensive than a bottle of highly advertised and overrated nutrients.
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I keep trying to tell my boyfriend about organics. He seems to think even with subcools super soil you need to add amendments...

I'm like NOOO.....

He says he would still add nutes, but for what? So the plants can get salt build up?

It seems he doesn't understand that subcools super soil is a complete soil.
When I get the money, I'd love to mix up some super soil.

I need to know though, are the yields with organics good?

We've only tried organics once, the liquid GH organic line.
We tried them on an autoflower, and the bitch only yielded a half oz, although
her said potential was up to 42 grams.

So, since she didn't yield well, we sold the nutes.
 
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K J

Active Member
It'll need nutes, whether they come from the water or the soil doesn't matter.
 
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tomascat

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just read about organic growing, I haven't used bottled nutes in months, add water only. got to educate urself my man u will not be disappointed never spending money on bottled crap
 
murdergrow

murdergrow

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To the OP and in response to some other posts:

If you grow with absolutely no nutes your plants will die.

Even if you dont use bottled nutes and are growing with a complete organic medium, only watering with plain water, you are still growing with nutes. Microorganisms in the soil are turning the material in the soil to usable nutrients that are readily available to plants.

Also if youre going full organic, even with bottled organic nutes in SS, why flush? Unless you have extremely hard water there will be no salt buildup in the soil only an abundance/overdose of nutrients.
 
Born Again Vegan

Born Again Vegan

Active Member
madodah said:
I don't add nutrients. I use an organic grow medium of 25% fortified potting soil (fir bark, forest humus, peat moss, perlite, chicken manure, worm castings, bat guano, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, oyster shell and dolomite lime), 25% peat moss, 25% decomposed cow manure and 25% perlite. I then use an AACT tea at the beginning of vegetation and one after flowering has begun. The soil food web — the complex world of soil-dwelling organisms whose interactions create a nurturing environment for plants.

I suggest you read 'Teaming with Microbes' and you'll never look back at the marketing hype filled world of expensive nutrient supplements. Small book, written in easy to understand layman terms and less expensive than a bottle of highly advertised and overrated nutrients.
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Well, I bought teeming with microbes and I've just started reading it. I really never thought my little hobby would come to this!
 
rancidbodies

rancidbodies

Active Member
madodah said:
While not popular on this particular forum, there are a large number of growers, cannabis, personal and commercial vegetable gardens, decorative gardens, a wide rage of agricultural crops and golf courses, that don't use nutrient supplements. Properly prepared organic growing media requires only water and microbe renewal to consistently outproduce chemical and organic nutrient supplemented outdoor yields. While I haven't grown indoors for years other than getting a head start on plants to be raised outdoors, there are many growers on other forums who do grow organically indoors without commercial nutrient supplements and their yields are impressive.

One can choose to play the nutrient supplement game or do some research and ignore it. Organically grown consumables always bring a premium price over their chemically supplemented counterparts, and always taste better, even cannabis. As to cost, to build my AACT brewer and purchase organic tea supplies that will last 3-4 years cost me less than one season of nutrient supplements. Water, neem oil and two tea applications are all the necessities and supplements I need for the entire growing season.

To each his/her own.
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I KNOW THIS IS AN old thread really thinking about going organic next time around this might be a dumb question is fox farm organic or is it chemical sorry noob anyways if you are still around thanks
 
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Ecko1

New Member
Hello all imma newbie here and thought i should comment cuz its seems some stoners are absolute idiot and have been eating their plant nutes! Mj grows wild without nutes just rain water and soil! I have personally seen grows that are grown using 0 ph soiless medium from a local green house and well water under leds and it flowers and grows it make take a few weeks longer but it still grows just fine. My suggestion is instead of asking questions test ur ideas whats it gonna hurt. Failure is part of life u have to fail before u can succeed. Im sure Adam and Eve failed several times in the garden of eden, quit asking and just try it. Good luck all.
 
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