Growing in coco with no test meters? ph/ppm/ec

Jubag420

Active Member
Hi guys ive been reading about other peoples coco grows & everyone talks about there ppm & ph?
Do I need ppm/ph/ec meters before I start? Didn't think about all this as ive been in soil :)

Saafe
 

Wilksey

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Absolutely not.

Folks have been cultivating plants without such high-tech pieces of kit for millennia.

You can start at quarter strength doses and work your way up based on how your plant responds, and you'll be alright.

A PPM tool is nice to have, but is certainly not mandatory to grow some decent plants.

Luck to you regardless.
 

Brokeoldbloke

Active Member
I only use a PH meter and think its an important tool. You could test strips but a meter is easier. Never worried about ppm/ec.
 

jondamon

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Any of you guys above actually ever grown in coco mediums before?

EC is not as important as a pH meter.

I have grown in coco for 4 years.

I would not be without my EC truncheon and pH pen.

Coco is VERY pH specific.

Ideally an EC meter would be beneficial as you feed each and everytime you water with coco mediums.

Keep pH at 5.8.

Coco is a hand watered hydroponic medium.




J
 

jarvild

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Never owned a ph or tds/ppm meter. I only used the ph test drop kit till I figured out what amount of ph down it took to lower my water [well water] to 6.5 ph. Ended up using 5 ml/per gallon of ph down to get my water [280 ppm of calcium carbonate] to that point.
 

pSi007

Active Member
Any of you guys above actually ever grown in coco mediums before?

EC is not as important as a pH meter.

I have grown in coco for 4 years.

I would not be without my EC truncheon and pH pen.

Coco is VERY pH specific.

Ideally an EC meter would be beneficial as you feed each and everytime you water with coco mediums.

Keep pH at 5.8.

Coco is a hand watered hydroponic medium.




J


I run 1-gallon coco/perlite buckets in an 8" flood-drain, mine need water 2x per day and I use organics. 5.8 would burn the shit out of my set-up, I am steady at 6.4 and a very high ppm. my coco+perlite dries out every few hours when the lights are on. I have a co2 meter and watch what they respond best to, a little drying and wetting phases work best imo to expand the roots to their fullest, maybe sharpen to 6.2 when I want the coco/per to stay moist.. this kinda grows bugs, mildew, and other hi RH shit, I also cover the pots in bags to reduces these effects. (flood-drain wets the medium through the bottom, not top). automated.. I use 5.8 when my roots sit in water, like dwc.
 

Jbone77

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Hi guys ive been reading about other peoples coco grows & everyone talks about there ppm & ph?
Do I need ppm/ph/ec meters before I start? Didn't think about all this as ive been in soil :)

Saafe
sounds good to me jew bag, what could possibly go wrong using an inert medium with no meters? JK, yeah , you need to buy em n learn em, best things ever for optimizing a grow. Buy cheap ones at first, I bought off ebay n my pos ppm pen was $12 n my ph pen was about the same, calibration solution is dirt cheap n iv had no issues for 4 years with cheap pens that I recalibrate once a yr. I grow in perlite hempy buckets n would have never gotten the results I do without my pens.
 

Jubag420

Active Member
Hahaa your not the first ta call me jewbag :D

Sound J, ill get on n buy a ec & ph pen :)

Do I need calibration fluid for both?
Also I guess ph+/- is necessary?

Saafe
 

jondamon

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Depending upon what you buy you'll need calibration solutions possibly for both the EC meter and the pH meter.

Some EC meters do not require calibration. Others need to be calibrated to a perticular EC buffer.

PH meters will need to be calibrated with at least 1 point calibration. This means you would need pH buffer 7 solution. 2 point calibration would need pH buffer 7 and buffer 4. All pH meters require regular calibration to perform best.

As for pH up and down. I very rarely use pH up. I'd rather use some silicon to raise pH.

PH down I use.



J
 

Jbone77

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Hahaa your not the first ta call me jewbag :D

Sound J, ill get on n buy a ec & ph pen :)

Do I need calibration fluid for both?
Also I guess ph+/- is necessary?

Saafe
Yeah, im sure im not the first.lol Just didnt expect to get jumped for it, but anyways, buy the calibration solutions, they are cheap as hell n make a cheap pen a good pen. My ph pen n ppm pen cost me less than $30 combined, calibration solutions were so cheap I cant even tell u the price of em. Iv seen several pens for 5x that cost n a ph/ppm variance hardly justifies the 500% mark up they charge. Il get fucked up n accidentally drop em n the toilet way before they quit workin. Iv never bought ph up, never needed it. Buy ur ph pen n nutes first, takes me 8 drops of ph down with lucas n tap water to get to 5.8 but all water is different
 

MedicatedGrow

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I grow with very good coco that is washed for a very low EC level and is PH neutral w/e that means.

I use different nutrients in it from diff brands etc, and never have I had to check PH, EC, PPM, or anything else.

Add nutes, and forget it.
 

Jbone77

Well-Known Member
I grow with very good coco that is washed for a very low EC level and is PH neutral w/e that means.

I use different nutrients in it from diff brands etc, and never have I had to check PH, EC, PPM, or anything else.

Add nutes, and forget it.
So u grow in coco without monitoring ph/ ppm because its ph neutral?
 

MedicatedGrow

Active Member
No I grow in Coco and I don't measure PH or PPM because I don't care to.

I have not had even one issue yet that I can see, my plants look extremely healthy besides 2 fan leaves that have rust spots from using like almost a cup of mollasses at one time (I had poured it directly from the bottle and was too lazy to start a new batch of feeding so I fed them anyway with it. Even those leaves are still extremely healthy. All my leaves are upright not droopy or sloopy and they love being overfed.

My plants are extremely happy, and I haven't had a oh shit moment since using Roots Organics Soilless Coco Coir so I haven't cared to test anything.

I do have a PH meter but it's in some box who knows where so I don't care.
 

Jubag420

Active Member
Sound, any suggestions on what ph/ec pens to get? Also whats silicon? I Google'd it & it shows some metal blocks :/

Saafe
 

MedicatedGrow

Active Member
Silicon from my understanding is like a hard gel that you apply to stick things like wood and glass together.
It's like a soft clear see through super glue
 

jondamon

Well-Known Member
Silicon from my understanding is like a hard gel that you apply to stick things like wood and glass together.
It's like a soft clear see through super glue
Silicon from my understanding is a soluable plant fertiliser. Si.

Look at liquid silicon by growth technology.

Or ProTekt by Dynagro etc.



J
 
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