GROWING organic with BIO CANNA
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NightbirdX
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Hi Troll. I wasn't going to respond to you, but you kinda pissed me off. Congratulations. You've been growing with BioCanna for a few months more than I.
I'm glad that you have become the foremost expert on BioCanna.
First off. I don't use Rhizo or Cannazym because they ARE NOT ORGANIC. I run a completely organic run. So I took them out and put other things in that were organic. Your assumptions that I "guess" are somewhat right. But my "guesses" are based off of research and based off of what the plant tells me. If I have an issue, I research the issue and I research the fix. I then use what I have or find something that I find is lacking. Based off of this, I have put together a system that works for me. It does great. I grow phenomenal shit. I have been averaging a lb/light. Not the highest by any means. But still respectable, and it is all chron from tops to bottom.
For the strains that I grow, I have found BioVega to be a little light on the nitrogen. I talked to a rep in person about this and he told me they actually are recommending people to use Terra Vega because it is more complete. This was not an option for me because I grow organically. So I amend the soil and add in other nutrients that help fix the issues.
I have also found that my plants love more phosphorous than the BioFlores provides. So I hit it with a high phos guano a few times throughout flowering, and it works wonders.
I use BioBoost after buds have started forming. I use BioBud prior to buds forming. I love BioBoost. But there is no real point in using it before the plants are showing flowers.
Don't berate me. You don't know me. I give advice based off of my experiences. I always fully admit that I don't know everything and if I am wrong, I ask to be corrected so that I know for future reference. Trust me. I started growing using a full BioCanna line up. It did not work well for me. I'm glad it works well for you. I would like the others like to see your 3 elbows per light though.
I can show pics of my stuff, can you?
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Well I dont grow with bio canna, but I want to bad but I'm in the middle of a grow.
The reason I posted is because of what nightbird just posted about, as I said I dont grow with bio canna (yet) but I thought it was common knowledge that this line was low on some nutrients but the end product was worth having to add some things to it regardless of cost, obviously you guys are willing to spend the $ if you are already using the most expensive part. Check out veganics, not to necessarily go that route completely but theres some good info as what to add to the bio line to supplement whats missing organically. Humbolt bloom (0-10-0), techniflora's soluble seaweed (0-0-16) for P and K in bloom as well as a few other things, sounds like you have found a few yourself....
The reason I posted is because of what nightbird just posted about, as I said I dont grow with bio canna (yet) but I thought it was common knowledge that this line was low on some nutrients but the end product was worth having to add some things to it regardless of cost, obviously you guys are willing to spend the $ if you are already using the most expensive part. Check out veganics, not to necessarily go that route completely but theres some good info as what to add to the bio line to supplement whats missing organically. Humbolt bloom (0-10-0), techniflora's soluble seaweed (0-0-16) for P and K in bloom as well as a few other things, sounds like you have found a few yourself....
NightbirdX
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Ya whitey. I've checked veganics. I basically run a veganic line, except I add budswel yellow and RO Roots HPK for a P and K bump. Other than that I use the bio line, Roots excelurator, humboldt honey, and use pro mix with amendments like lime, humus, azomite, and various benes.
Wolverine97
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You're kind of an idiot, okay? I can count no fewer than three things that you're absolutely wrong about here. Do you know which? And I doubt your tale about your yields as well, my best runs end up around 2.5 lb/1kw and I have shit dialed in tightly.
cultivator707
Member
i have a grow right now veganic here are some pics i have been studying this method very intens with alot of strains here is what i have come up with soluable seaweed for micros and running a compost tea with every watering lots of info on www.medicalmarijuana .com organnaadd works real well along with ca mag and aeration of water for mi
crobes is very important bountea.com check it out if u go veganics the yellowing is hard to battle because it caught me off guard here are some 
pics although when in veg before the yellow they were the best i had ever seen growing i think the bountea aloud the girls to use alot of food .
cannasutra
Member
If you want to see my technique and plants in bud and apologize in person. Ill be at Hemp Con in Anaheim in January. Or wait till later this year and ill be at the one in San Jose and or San Fran. You wont miss me. Ill have the 6' to 9' potted plants in bud. I fit 9 5 gallon pots under 1 light in a 4 1/2 foot square grow space. Those are 5' to 6' plants. Trimmed tight up high and all i grow are big top colla's. And for those that dont understand organics. Nutrients, base and micro and hormones are uptaken between 5.4 and 6.7 ph. And when watered correctly, no timers, no to drain, no within 2 hours of lights on or off, and a bunch of other no's, the soil will ph change the nutes to all levels needed. When you ph you kill important stuff. DONE. cant bring it back. Also for you silicone users put that in first and mix well before any thing else goes in. Now to ph again. If you lower the ph to 6.2 to start then you just stopped or at least slowed all nutes and hormones that are uptaken above 6.2. DONE I can show you why im right in everything i say. 28 years in this industry. Also my luminescent reading, lumns, (sp) has less then a 5% variation at 18 to 24 inches from light. You have over 45% variation. That in and of its self accounts for a lot of my weight. Also my pots. And cannazine is organic. Its just not OMRI listed because its manufactured by canna, not biocanna. 2 different companies but the same. Why is that???? I know. do you? And if you use anything other then molasses or sugar alcohols for sugars you are making the plant work too hard to use it. Also
Matt Rize
Hashmaster
Uh... cannaszme is loaded with phosphate bro. check the label. It is far from organic by any definition. Hope to meet you soon. You seem to have some good things to say but your communication skills need work. Maybe you were rushing with that last post.
And BioCanna is made by Canna. Canna is the only company. Biocanna is a product brand, not a company.
SketchyGrower
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I second this!
Just re-purchased the bio canna line today at TCS and visited Advanced Gardening solutions Friday TOTAL WIN ON EMPLOYEES!!
MalcolmMustang
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15-20 ml vega and flores + 10ml Humboldt Bloom + 5ml Microblast. Wow, are you talkin per gallon? Thats full blast on Humboldt nutrients and full blast on biocanna. How big are your plants? I use the same stuff.
