growing salvia

ChaosSelling

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hello all, well i was googleing and searching the site and i cant find any guides or any threads on how to grow salvia, dies anyone know of a thread that could help me out does anyone want to give me an overview or something. oh yea and can i get salvia seeds or do i need toget a clone?
 

tebor

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I believe you can only get clones.
Several sites sell them.

In the past I found info on growing it through google.
Keep looking. its out there.

I believe they like humid air and partial sun. If I remember.
 

ihavefeet

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I'm also interested in hearing from anyone who has some salvia growing tips! I recently got two cuttings from someone and have got them to stabilize. I've got them in small coco pots. What I'm most concerned about it how much cfl lighting I should be giving them. The leaves look a little stressed right now.....

And BTW, tebor is right. You can only grow salvia from cuttings. Apparently it has been domesticated and grown from cutting for so long in it's endogenous regions that it no longer even produces viable seeds!

feet
 

tebor

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check this out for salvia growing:

http://www.entheogen.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=159

regions conditions. I do this very soon after the clone is rooted, this allow for the least impact possible on the plant. I clone in very high humidity, roots appear in about a week, then it takes about a week to bring them out of the chamber. Each day the cover is removed until the plant is noticably struggling, cover back on, next day same thing, at one point it doesnt wilt at all and is fully adapted.
As you can notice the 3 plants in the brown pots are a lot more lanky than my other bushes in the green pots. This is because i decided to leave some plants in high humidity until they outgrew the chamber, i then adapted them and those are what you see. When they are adapted the stalk are much stronger, the leaves break with a hard snap, the colour is a little deeper but not as full as in humidity (if that makes sense). The plants seem to be much stronger given stress and the ability to overcome it, and as i said as you can see its better to adapt early if you are going to. I do leave my watering jug in the room full of water usually, this also allows the chlorine to break down in the light. I do spray them, everyday mostly, sometimes more than once, i mix b-1 in as a foliar spray, it a great multi purpose applicant, once the bottle is half empy i fill it with water, then half empty again, up with water, until its clear water, then mix more b-1.

I keep the temperature the highest possible, i dont have a heater in the room, but do leave the door closed sometimes. It's approx 20 degrees celcius, up to 25, you do notice effects when the temp is colder, under 20 celcius, but they have been very cold before and had no problems.

I have tried many different lights under my plants, when all those were only 3 plants they were under a 150w hps, then they moved onto a 400w mh, and finally when i cloned the 3 plants to nothing making all those i made my 360w flourescent tube setup. The best flourescent tubes are the sunshine full spectrum, their cri is around 98. I have 6 plant and aquarium tubes, cri 90, and 2 sunshine full spectrum bulbs in the middle on the opposing banks. I would have bought all sunshine but they were twice the price, so fuck it, i have always used plant and aquarium bulbs for flourescent tube growing purposes, and they are the shiat, but there is always something better.

The plants grew alright under the hps, but they lacked something i could tell. The 400w was too intense in my opinion, even though it was around 3ft from the plants, the leaves were curling, too light in colour green, i wasnt satisfied. At the beginning my first plant was under flourescents so i decided to switch back and it was a good choice.
I have a 400w ceramic mh bulb which i really want to setup but i need a pulse start metal halide ballast, a regular 400w mh ballast doesnt work, it needs an ignitor. Its a new technology of bulbs that has higher red than hps and higher blue than mh, the centre core looks crazy, completely round ceramic. Phillips and GE are the only companies making these so far, and the highest watts is 400.

My soil is a mix i made myself, i always like to customize my growing mediums to the vibe im getting for the plant (fuckin hippy, lol). Anyway its mostly coconut fibre, approx 75%, then there is some pro mix, maybe 15%, then some black earth, 10% i guess, and some sand and rocks in the bottom, thin layer, to help drainage. The coconut fibre is excellent, it doesnt really compact when you water, and it holds a good ratio of air and water.

I use a 3 part chemical fertalizer for nutrient applications. For years i have gone back and forth between 2 companies, Advanced Nurtrients and General Hydroponics. They both have many lines of nutrients, but i always favoured their 3 part, micro, grow, and bloom. There are a few difference between the 2 companies, advanced nutrients is a little cheaper, and does uses cheaper chelates on their metals. There is more sulfure in the advanced nutrients bloom, that can be a good or bad thing depending. I never follow the directions on the side of the bottle, and i havent had a ph or ppm pen for a long time, iv been working with this shit for long enough that if i know what the plant wants, and i can usually tell cause its not hard, really, then i know what to mix for that plant. Salvia can take the feed, like dope, but its only in veg and doesnt produce like dope, so you can take it easy on the nurtrients, just make sure it gets the full range of macro, micro and trace elements. Again i say you should know what the plant wants, so you know what to give it more or less of, not exceeding its ppm desired.
 

Spoc

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What's the salvia high like? Does it induce any paranoia? Always wanted to experiment with this plant.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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What's the salvia high like? Does it induce any paranoia? Always wanted to experiment with this plant.

You REALLY want to know? ;-)

Basically it's like Firecrackers...on steroids! Not something to be taken lightly either...have heard many freak out the first time. You will either have a good trip... or really bad one! :-|
 

lozac123

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i grow it, and have tried it. lots of people recon you can just smoke the leaf and get a trip from it, but imo its bullshit, iv never gone on a trip from just leaves.

i smoke 2 joints of them once and a blackberry leaf looked like it was swaying, but thats about it.

if you wana try it, for for a standardised extract, about 35x plus, but again, this is just my oppinion, ive argued with people on here about how much to take on ur first go. i started with 5x, but nothing happend. i tried 20x too but it didnt do a lot. 35x was the first extract that i tried and went on a trip. its not like the high that you get from weed tho, you cant remember much of it, just the major peak and the comming down.

as for growing it, its very difficult from seed, like 1 in 100 actually germinate, its far easier just to get a clone.

what i did was place a clear plasetic bag over it, so it kept the humidity, and i grew it a windowsill in the uk. it grew fine, but i threw it out a few weeks back cos it got some weird jumpy bugs in it, didnt want them to spread to my trainwreck. any qs, fire away. its very easy to grow, despite what people say.
 

ANC

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Lol you should have no paranoia going into the experience... as it comes on so stealthily. Comming down is a diffirent matter as your brain seems to come back on line in stages, so you do not have access to your memory beanks etc. This can be a little upsetting for some people.
 

tebor

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What's the salvia high like? Does it induce any paranoia? Always wanted to experiment with this plant.
I wouldn't call it a high as much as a trip.
A very intense trip but short lived.
There are many videos on youtube of dumb people under the influence of salvia.

My personal favorite.
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also check out erowid.org for trip reports.
 

Realclosetgreenz

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I was so high when i started reading this..I actually thought the thread said "growing sativa"lol...anyway cool post but yeah like the prevois guy said i cant get high of salvia i just get a weird pokey sensation down my back...I gave some to my dad and he said he saw an angel and started balling it was hilarious...But cool post
 

EnkiGrower

Member
Salvia is nuts, the first time I tried it I didn't really like it. You basically loose control. If a person is mind, body, and spirit, salvia seperates the spirit form the mind, and the body is on its own. I felt normal inside (my spirit), but I couldn't tell my mind how to tell my body to do anything. I got sweatty and walked around in circles giggeling my ass off. but it was a little scary because I wasn't ready to loose control that much. But thank god it ony lasted about 2-3 minutes like that and another 10 minutes of feeling trippy.
The second time I did it, I was depressed and trying to make sense out of some personal problems that just couldn't make sense ( a girl was the root of my problem), so I was actually looking to get detached from reality. And it was a great trip that I got some clarity from.
I wouldn't smoke that shit too often, but every once in a while it is good. It helps me realize that life is crazy, a little puff a plant could make me detach from controling my body, its hard to explain. Be careful when you do it, have someone around that is sober, and don't try and hold on to reality....
 
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