guano sources

Anyone know if sunleaves is one of the ones bashing in the side of caves destroying bats habitats? Do they all do it?

esh dov ets said:

Anyone know if sunleaves is one of the ones bashing in the side of caves destroying bats habitats? Do they all do it?

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This guy might be able to help with any guano-related questions you might have:

I like bats, but that is scary Lou!

They all do it.

If one didn't, they wouldn't be able to compete with the ones that do.

Seabird guano is a less destructive harvesting practice from my understanding.

Malted barley grains are a great alternative for phosphorus source. So is crab shell meal.

Rasta Roy said:

They all do it.

If one didn't, they wouldn't be able to compete with the ones that do.

Seabird guano is a less destructive harvesting practice from my understanding.

Malted barley grains are a great alternative for phosphorus source. So is crab shell meal.

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Thanks for mentioning those alternatives!
Will definitely look into the malted barley more, as it would be the one I could source/produce locally... whereby, thinking on the examples of overcharged organic soils we've been seeing over on Mustang's thread, we may not be needing to worry about adding much more phoshorus at all?

In 1857 the United States annexed the overseas territory of Baker Island under the Guano Islands Act. When Haiti complained that The US took possession of land that belonged to them on Navassa Island, their answer was "“the island was derelict and abandoned, with guano of good quality.”

Bird Turds and the Beginnings of U.S. Overseas Territories

http://ushistoryscene.com/article/guano-islands-bird-turds/


I prefer bone char because it will be available even when shit (Guano) goes down..

calliandra said:

Thanks for mentioning those alternatives!
Will definitely look into the malted barley more, as it would be the one I could source/produce locally... whereby, thinking on the examples of overcharged organic soils we've been seeing over on Mustang's thread, we may not be needing to worry about adding much more phoshorus at all?

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Thats what ive been thinking. Last time I added a phosphorus boost to my plants they hated me for it more than they liked it.

NaturalFarmer said:

In 1857 the United States annexed the overseas territory of Baker Island under the Guano Islands Act. When Haiti complained that The US took possession of land that belonged to them on Navassa Island, their answer was "“the island was derelict and abandoned, with guano of good quality.”

Bird Turds and the Beginnings of U.S. Overseas Territories

http://ushistoryscene.com/article/guano-islands-bird-turds/


I prefer bone char because it will be available even when shit goes down..

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If youre an American citizen and find an unclaimed island with a cache of guano you can declare it under U.S. protection, you just gotta sell the guano inside the U.S. or something like that. I read it forever ago.

Rasta Roy said:

They all do it.

If one didn't, they wouldn't be able to compete with the ones that do.

Seabird guano is a less destructive harvesting practice from my understanding.

Malted barley grains are a great alternative for phosphorus source. So is crab shell meal.

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Doesn't malted barley turn to a plant poison after brewed for to long as a tea.? I could be thinking of something else anybody know what im talking about?

esh dov ets said:

Doesn't malted barley turn to a plant poison after brewed for to long as a tea.? I could be thinking of something else anybody know what im talking about?

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My experience with sst is pretty limited, the whole reason I use the malted barley is because I don't have to do that process with it. I've heard what you're saying before in the context of sst but seeing as how my plants didn't die I'm thinking it was referring to something else. Or maybe a process I'm not engaging in.

Rasta Roy said:

My experience with sst is pretty limited, the whole reason I use the malted barley is because I don't have to do that process with it. I've heard what you're saying before in the context of sst but seeing as how my plants didn't die I'm thinking it was referring to something else. Or maybe a process I'm not engaging in.

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So how do you prepare and apply the malted barley ? I saw it used in a no till video ; brewed for two hours ; guy said i think over 24 hours of brewing will yeild an herbacide. He made some sst but with the barley he just brewed it out of the bag dry adding water and bubbles.

esh dov ets said:

So how do you prepare and apply the malted barley ? I saw it used in a no till video ; brewed for two hours ; guy said i think over 24 hours of brewing will yeild an herbacide. He made some sst but with the barley he just brewed it out of the bag dry adding water and bubbles.

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I top dress with a big old handful per pot and then water with a little bit of fulvic acid.

esh dov ets said:

Doesn't malted barley turn to a plant poison after brewed for to long as a tea.? I could be thinking of something else anybody know what im talking about?

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i use malted barley from beer brewing as a bokashi substrate. but that's like 5gal once or twice a year is all.