Guardians of the Galaxseeds!

HotWaterKarl

HotWaterKarl

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Hey Folks,

Take stock of your pure bread seeds. The genome editors and castrators of heirloometry are coming.
Take stock of your seeds.

GMO weed is gonna fuck us all. Strip the essential cannabinoids, terpines, etc. and give us Chink weed.

Save your seeds. RESIST
 
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gb123

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HotWaterKarl said:
Hey Folks,

Take stock of your pure bread seeds. The genome editors and castrators of heirloometry are coming.
Take stock of your seeds.

GMO weed is gonna fuck us all. Strip the essential cannabinoids, terpines, etc. and give us Chink weed.

Save your seeds. RESIST
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there is such a things a pure is there?

not in yours or my kids lifetime
 
cannadan

cannadan

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if you got a strain or two that works for you....then hang on....you may need those beans, come what may.
Ya... pure unadulterated seed strains are somewhat rare these days... most people may start out with
something that could have been ....say kept rare or more pure... but when you run a (outdoors) garden of females
and find one or two seeds in each bud.
These seeds are developed by pollen(of unknown genetics) travelling either via bugs/birds etc or via the wind/rain, to your garden (disregarding Hermie's)
The resultant seeds,,, have a known mother and unknown father.
This same process in nature, is what would diversify a strain and allow those genetics to mingle with other strains to create bigger/heartier/ healthier
plants.
We get the exact same thing going on in our gardens as well.
Its natures way of combining genetics to get the strongest/healthiest plant available to that point in history.

Though indoors we can keep our strain (more pure) to its self. especially if you purposely grow males of a known strain and utilize this pollen
to create your own seed. Still your strains blood line could be a combo of unknown(prior ) genetics, with what ever known genetics, you choose.
Also clones stall out the process of change, which can be both good and bad.

So (outdoors) basically it can be ever changing, as the years repeat themselves, you get your known mother strain(a combo of your girls genetics with, the prior years unknowns) to breed this year's resultant combo.
Best thing you can do is find flavors of mmj that you like and that works for you ,grow that and keep what ever seeds you end up with and label that stuff
to be organized. It helps.
 
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thelast1

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It would be beneficial to throw your support behind gmo labeling campaigns in Canada.

It would be a great look for the entire cannabis community to be seen supporting just causes such as these.
 
TrainingPineapples

TrainingPineapples

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If you have strains growing that work for you then you sould make yourself some feminized seeds just in case

This is the worst case scenario since doing this increases the potential of hermaphroditism in the resulting seeds but if you're seeing a pinch down the road and need to store some seed 'just in case' then this may be the right option for you

I've done this over the years for most of the strains in my collection and have had no problem with the resulting seed as long as I let the seeded plant fully mature
 
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thelast1

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TrainingPineapples said:
If you have strains growing that work for you then you sould make yourself some feminized seeds just in case

This is the worst case scenario since doing this increases the potential of hermaphroditism in the resulting seeds but if you're seeing a pinch down the road and need to store some seed 'just in case' then this may be the right option for you

I've done this over the years for most of the strains in my collection and have had no problem with the resulting seed as long as I let the seeded plant fully mature
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Are you referring to self pollinating females, I assume? What method do you use?
 
TrainingPineapples

TrainingPineapples

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thelast1 said:
Are you referring to self pollinating females, I assume? What method do you use?
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I take a bunch of clones and root them in peat pucks using the goo from an Aloe Vera branch.

After they grow feet, I stick 'em in small dollar store cups for a week or so in my veg crate and then transplant to solo cups before throwing half of them immediately into my flower crate (I run my veg crate on a 20/4 timing)

After 2 weeks I remove the clones I put into flower and put them in a seeding box with a light set to run 12 on/ 5.5 off/ 1 on/ 5.5 off ... I also put the rest of the clones into my flower crate

After 2 or 3 weeks you will start to see pollen sacks forming on the plants in the seeding box, this is when you transfer the rest of the clones you originally took to the seeding box and let them grow

One thing that is invaluable is to set up the hermied plants on a board attached to a rope hung from the top of the box so as to be able to shake the plants of their pollen when they start to open ... you also will definitely want to seal the box off when the pollen sacks pop so you don't get spunked in the face AND comtaminate your other plants

I should mention that a hydro autowatering sytem utilizing a flood a drain setup is the most ideal for doing this type of thing as you can build the box to have access to the reservoir without having to open the part of the box that has the plants. And if you utilize a board hung on rope and use a pulley, you can completely seal the box and use the rope to not only shake the pollen when the plants start spunking, but you can set it up so you raise the hermied plants out of the flood plane where they will die as the polenated plants grow their seed ... two weeks or so after pulling the hermied plants out of the water it is safe to open the box and throw all the polenated clones back into your flower chamber

The plants will be small ... don't worry, you will get tons of seed as long as you let them plants grow till the plants are about to start dropping seed on the floor (seed needs to be ripe and this will vary depending on strain)
 
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thelast1

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TrainingPineapples said:
I take a bunch of clones and root them in peat pucks using the goo from an Aloe Vera branch.

After they grow feet, I stick 'em in small dollar store cups for a week or so in my veg crate and then transplant to solo cups before throwing half of them immediately into my flower crate (I run my veg crate on a 20/4 timing)

After 2 weeks I remove the clones I put into flower and put them in a seeding box with a light set to run 12 on/ 5.5 off/ 1 on/ 5.5 off ... I also put the rest of the clones into my flower crate

After 2 or 3 weeks you will start to see pollen sacks forming on the plants in the seeding box, this is when you transfer the rest of the clones you originally took to the seeding box and let them grow

One thing that is invaluable is to set up the hermied plants on a board attached to a rope hung from the top of the box so as to be able to shake the plants of their pollen when they start to open ... you also will definitely want to seal the box off when the pollen sacks pop so you don't get spunked in the face AND comtaminate your other plants

I should mention that a hydro autowatering sytem utilizing a flood a drain setup is the most ideal for doing this type of thing as you can build the box to have access to the reservoir without having to open the part of the box that has the plants. And if you utilize a board hung on rope and use a pulley, you can completely seal the box and use the rope to not only shake the pollen when the plants start spunking, but you can set it up so you raise the hermied plants out of the flood plane where they will die as the polenated plants grow their seed ... two weeks or so after pulling the hermied plants out of the water it is safe to open the box and throw all the polenated clones back into your flower chamber

The plants will be small ... don't worry, you will get tons of seed as long as you let them plants grow till the plants are about to start dropping seed on the floor (seed needs to be ripe and this will vary depending on strain)
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OK so you use an interrupted light schedule to stress them to turn?

What's the efficacy rate? Does it work on some more than others? To say, is it more effective on some strains than others?

It is my understanding, from what I've read, true hermaphroditism will produce male and female seeds. I assume this method does not produce true hermaphroditism and the plants remain chromosomally female?
 
TrainingPineapples

TrainingPineapples

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thelast1 said:
OK so you use an interrupted light schedule to stress them to turn?

What's the efficacy rate? Does it work on some more than others? To say, is it more effective on some strains than others?

It is my understanding, from what I've read, true hermaphroditism will produce male and female seeds. I assume this method does not produce true hermaphroditism and the plants remain chromosomally female?
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I use the natural tendancy for a plant to go hermie from a screwed up light cycle to my advantage

If you have light leak or your dark period interrupted by light your plants will go hermie. Any seeds produced by plants pollenated by these hermied plants will be female (I think scientifically it's called the Mendolian genetic model or something to that effect). What is happening is the pistil of the plant gets covered in pollen that has 2 X chromosomes, essentially making the resulting seed female due to it being created out of only female chromosomes (the pistil on the female plant is 2 X also)

The only issue with making female seeds, regardless of the method used, is that a percentage of them wil be more susceptible to going hermie on a grower. However, any experienced grower will know how to do a pheno hunt when searching for momsout of the seeds and take precautions to weed out the hermies from their hunt

Some of my strains have a quicker response to the light stress than others but it's pretty much a guarantee that they will start spunking within 3 or 4 weeks of putting them under light stress

I've got the following strains growing at the moment:

Cinderella 99 - Brothers Grimm (original)
California Hash Plant - Dinafem
CBD Medihaze - CBD Crew
Orange Bud - Dutch
CB Dream - Crop King
Pinapple Hash Plant - one of my crosses created out of a Training Pineapples that hermied and spunked on a California Hash Plant (Dinafem)
Training Pinapples - one of my crosses created out of an accident from a Barny's Farm Pinapple Express auto going hermie and spunking over a Training Day from DNA ... Some of the best smoke I have, super fire

Out of these the Training Pineapples and the Pinapple Hash Plant are the quickest to show balls when I do a seed run (I think this is due to the Barny's Farm auto). The CB Dream is a new strain for me and I am just starting the pheno hunt so won't know it's tendancies until I finish the hunt and go to add the seeds to my seed bank

I've been collecting genetics for the past 4 or 5 years now and have around 20 different strains and crosses ... even have 8 strains that my buddy brought back from the blue mountains in Jamaica, only popped one so far and damn son, he did me a solid - I made some femmed seeds after the first taste of that herb, I call it Jamaican Grapes

Some people collect cars, some coins and others sports cards ... I collect cannabis strains

Anyways, I digress ... I hope this helps answer your questions and shows anyone reading how easy it is to plant a seed and watch it grow
 
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thelast1

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TrainingPineapples said:
I use the natural tendancy for a plant to go hermie from a screwed up light cycle to my advantage

If you have light leak or your dark period interrupted by light your plants will go hermie. Any seeds produced by plants pollenated by these hermied plants will be female (I think scientifically it's called the Mendolian genetic model or something to that effect). What is happening is the pistil of the plant gets covered in pollen that has 2 X chromosomes, essentially making the resulting seed female due to it being created out of only female chromosomes (the pistil on the female plant is 2 X also)

The only issue with making female seeds, regardless of the method used, is that a percentage of them wil be more susceptible to going hermie on a grower. However, any experienced grower will know how to do a pheno hunt when searching for momsout of the seeds and take precautions to weed out the hermies from their hunt

Some of my strains have a quicker response to the light stress than others but it's pretty much a guarantee that they will start spunking within 3 or 4 weeks of putting them under light stress

I've got the following strains growing at the moment:

Cinderella 99 - Brothers Grimm (original)
California Hash Plant - Dinafem
CBD Medihaze - CBD Crew
Orange Bud - Dutch
CB Dream - Crop King
Pinapple Hash Plant - one of my crosses created out of a Training Pineapples that hermied and spunked on a California Hash Plant (Dinafem)
Training Pinapples - one of my crosses created out of an accident from a Barny's Farm Pinapple Express auto going hermie and spunking over a Training Day from DNA ... Some of the best smoke I have, super fire

Out of these the Training Pineapples and the Pinapple Hash Plant are the quickest to show balls when I do a seed run (I think this is due to the Barny's Farm auto). The CB Dream is a new strain for me and I am just starting the pheno hunt so won't know it's tendancies until I finish the hunt and go to add the seeds to my seed bank

I've been collecting genetics for the past 4 or 5 years now and have around 20 different strains and crosses ... even have 8 strains that my buddy brought back from the blue mountains in Jamaica, only popped one so far and damn son, he did me a solid - I made some femmed seeds after the first taste of that herb, I call it Jamaican Grapes

Some people collect cars, some coins and others sports cards ... I collect cannabis strains

Anyways, I digress ... I hope this helps answer your questions and shows anyone reading how easy it is to plant a seed and watch it grow
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Awesome. Thanks for taking the time to make a detailed reply.
I've gotten my hands on some chemical to reverse the sex. I don't really have the extra lights to set up a screwy light cycle area. I'm curious about the hermaphroditism tendency of the offspring. I've read differing accounts on both sides of the issue.
I think that's the worst thing that's come out of the proliferation of growing sites, there's conflicting information on virtually every subject. It's such a pain to try to sort through it all.
 
zoic

zoic

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TrainingPineapples said:
If you have light leak or your dark period interrupted by light your plants will go hermie
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I read this nonsense when I first came to this forum and in spite of my lack of knowledge at growing cannabis I do have common sense and I am capable of critical thinking, blah, blah, blah. So I have completely ignored that nonsense and not a single plant has been anything but a female. You can spend all day trying to change my mind with anecdotal evidence you may come across but that will not change my mind. It is nonsense.
 
The Hippy

The Hippy

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I always make sure my plants get no light in the dark period. Only from what I've heard can happen. I've had some hermies but I think it was stress more than anything. Nothing for a few years now though.
 
TheChemist77

TheChemist77

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TrainingPineapples said:
I use the natural tendancy for a plant to go hermie from a screwed up light cycle to my advantage

If you have light leak or your dark period interrupted by light your plants will go hermie. Any seeds produced by plants pollenated by these hermied plants will be female (I think scientifically it's called the Mendolian genetic model or something to that effect). What is happening is the pistil of the plant gets covered in pollen that has 2 X chromosomes, essentially making the resulting seed female due to it being created out of only female chromosomes (the pistil on the female plant is 2 X also)

The only issue with making female seeds, regardless of the method used, is that a percentage of them wil be more susceptible to going hermie on a grower. However, any experienced grower will know how to do a pheno hunt when searching for momsout of the seeds and take precautions to weed out the hermies from their hunt

Some of my strains have a quicker response to the light stress than others but it's pretty much a guarantee that they will start spunking within 3 or 4 weeks of putting them under light stress

I've got the following strains growing at the moment:

Cinderella 99 - Brothers Grimm (original)
California Hash Plant - Dinafem
CBD Medihaze - CBD Crew
Orange Bud - Dutch
CB Dream - Crop King
Pinapple Hash Plant - one of my crosses created out of a Training Pineapples that hermied and spunked on a California Hash Plant (Dinafem)
Training Pinapples - one of my crosses created out of an accident from a Barny's Farm Pinapple Express auto going hermie and spunking over a Training Day from DNA ... Some of the best smoke I have, super fire

Out of these the Training Pineapples and the Pinapple Hash Plant are the quickest to show balls when I do a seed run (I think this is due to the Barny's Farm auto). The CB Dream is a new strain for me and I am just starting the pheno hunt so won't know it's tendancies until I finish the hunt and go to add the seeds to my seed bank

I've been collecting genetics for the past 4 or 5 years now and have around 20 different strains and crosses ... even have 8 strains that my buddy brought back from the blue mountains in Jamaica, only popped one so far and damn son, he did me a solid - I made some femmed seeds after the first taste of that herb, I call it Jamaican Grapes

Some people collect cars, some coins and others sports cards ... I collect cannabis strains

Anyways, I digress ... I hope this helps answer your questions and shows anyone reading how easy it is to plant a seed and watch it grow
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nice work,,
 
TrainingPineapples

TrainingPineapples

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zoic said:
I read this nonsense when I first came to this forum and in spite of my lack of knowledge at growing cannabis I do have common sense and I am capable of critical thinking, blah, blah, blah. So I have completely ignored that nonsense and not a single plant has been anything but a female. You can spend all day trying to change my mind with anecdotal evidence you may come across but that will not change my mind. It is nonsense.
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Those who think they know .....
 
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