guerilla growing

Hi there, so i am new to this as i have only ever grown a couple backyard plants. I have done extensive research but i still have many questions. Sorry for the amount of questions but if someone can answer them i would be very stoked. First of all i have found a spot, but of course it is secluded, so hauling in soil would be a bigtime pain.

1. Can i just dig holes and rough up the native soil and add 101010 plant food?
2. Could i dig up the native soil and put it in 5 gallon grow bags? if i did would i have to water way more than if i put them in the ground?
3. I wont be able to water much but im told if i use water chrystals and plant in the ground things should be okay.
4. I have to fit 22 plants in my spot, so would a 1 foot hole be adequate per plant?
5. Do the roots of the plants eventually take to the harder ground beside your hole that you didnt dig? example being if you dug a 1 foot by 1 foot hole would the roots expand past the hole size?
6. Here are pics of the spot and the soil. tell me what you think of the native soil...


thanks so much for the advice guys

oh and of course i wont be planting until may haha just scouting....and im in british colombia

lots of questions i know, but i could really use the advice!

I never grew out in the woods like you are planning, but I have hiked around and lived in 'em. The soil looks very friable, so that's good. 22 plants in the outlined area seems like too many plants... My biggest concern is it looks like you are under Big leaf Maples or some kind of deciduous trees. You are going to loose a lot of light once they leaf out. All the gorilla grows I knew about back in the day were on the edges of clear cuts or other large open areas.

I believe those trees are dead, looks like a windstorm ripped a bunch of them out, there roots are showing half out of the ground. I appreciate the help!!! I'm thinking dolomite lime perlite and 101010 in the holes with native soil and maybe 12 plants in out lined area and the other 10 near by

I would make each hole atleast 1cuft. Dig the hole then add store bought soil and native soil into each hole till full, will depend on how good ur native soil is. You can also throw in some dry fert like plant tone. Give each plant atleast a 2ft circumference to grow, don't crowd to close

Hey man I managed to find a spot close to a river with pretty awesome soil. Pretty heavy clay but lots of organic matter. When I dug the spot up I found lots of fish carcasses and fish/snail shells. I did not add anything to the soil, just dug it up and planted.

I live in Canada as well. British Columbia is known for its killer bud. Give er tits and show em what you're made of!!

By the way I top dressed with an all purpose dry granular fertilizer multiple times throughout the season. And watered with liquid nutrients every second watering. I lollipopped all of them to get rid of sucker branches that will produce popcorn/larf. I top and super crop my plants to get more tops. And I planted my plants atleast 4 feet apart, 6 would have been better.

There're ferns on the ground there. Ferns are fond of shady areas. Areas where the ground is nice and moist from the sun NOT hitting it. And those are at least a season old so they obviously thrived there last year.
So don't waste your time there. The most you'll get if you plant hardened off seedlings would be them stretching like damnit instead of growing nodes for budsites. I know this through personal experience. Find a different spot.
As far as the plant food I assume you're talking about time release nutes? Those will work fine and dandy. Just mix enough dolomite lime in there. Stuff's heavy and you won't need that much of it. So get a bag and maybe fill up a thick half gallon ziplock bag to take with you. I've taken to amending local soil with promix. It's pretty damn light and easy to carry when it's totally dried out and broken up.
How I dig my holes. Take a 5 gallon bucket and a tarp. Dig your hole deep enough to fill up the bucket halfway. Break the soil up in the bucket. Bust up the soil really well in the hole under what you've dug. Now take your promix and add another half bucket to your busted up soil pile. Mix and toss it back in there. On the top layer dig about 3 inches down and spread the nutes over the top of the hole evenly. Unless you're putting seedlings in there. Then I'd wait until they're at least 1-2 weeks old before adding it just to be on the safe side. You'll have a nice mound.
You'll want to do this about 2 weeks prior to planting. Or a few days before expecting a nice rain. That way your hole will get nice and soaked and also settle.
I don't even water my plants. Just let the rain take care of it.
I've also tried the little crystal things. I don't personally like them because they attract bugs like damnit. Every hole I used them in there were always bugs hanging out and drinking off them.

You need to look at the grow site during the spring, summer, and fall. You have to know what kind of sun is hitting the area.

I second the fern thing. Ferns like shady places.

Your guys advice has been awesome! I do believe it gets some decent eastern sun though, as I have visited in the summer. There is a decent opening in the trees where the sun peaks in.here's some pictures on a cloudy day in March..thanks

Not to beat the I think it's to shady drum, but, I think it's going to be to shady. Facing east in the hill means you are going to loose your light earlier in the afternoon and all those maple leaves lying on the gound came off that tree. And I third: ferns = shade. Have you been to this spot in the summer? I think you'll be surprised how quick and dense the canopy fills in. Plug in one or two plants and see how they do...

Hey. I'm digging holes already, but I'm down here in NW Florida. Back in the day all we used was bulk farm fertilizer like 13-13-13 in our holes. You can cut trees to increase your sunshine, but you don't want to do so many as to attract attention. The southern sun is the most important as the sun will be heading that way at budding time.

And you need more than a foot per plant. I try to dig 10-15 gallon holes and to have them at least 4 feet apart. You will make just as much {or more} off half the plants if you spread them out and dig bigger holes. I also try to do about 6 plants in one area, then 6 more a good ways off. You don't want to lose everything if one of your patches get found.

These days I do carry in a soil mix for most of my Primate Patches, but for the really long walk ones, they get mostly 13-13-13, some time release plant food and very little of the soil mix.

Good luck,

Larro

What about this spot? It's between subdivision backyard fences and some medical building. My main worry is about the ppl who clean up the yard and trees and weed whack the curbs near the medical area. No one from subdivision can access. It's walking distance to where I live that's why I like it. Sides are fence and pine trees. The sun rises over the fence and sets over the pine trees.

Hey VC1234.

1. First off, you can grow with regular farm bulk fertilizer. I have always used 13-13-13 or 10-10-10. I use about a quart per plant when using no other food source. But some time release plant food is a good investment too. You will need to do some digging to see what your dirt looks like. If it's too heavy or wet you will need to add something like vermiculite for drainage. Too dry or sandy soil and lava rock is worth the effort to port it in.

2. The grow bags take much more water. I would plant in the ground.

3. I would stay away from the crystals. Many of my grows were rain only, and they produced. Watering is a risk/reward thing. You have to decide how much risk it is worth.

4. No, 22 plants will not fit. In order to grow a big plant you need a big hole. When I was a kid, my cousin who was a respected grower in his day, showed me how he did it. His holes were dug the size of a #2 washtub, or 15 gallons. The holes were at least 5 feet apart, but 6 or 8 is even better. You can grow just as much weight with 5 or 6 plants in that space as your 22 will yield. Taking longer to dig bigger, more spread out holes will mean you have to carry less plants into the woods. That {and harvest time} is when you are the most at risk.

5. The roots might grow a couple of inches into untilled ground, but you want to make life as easy as possible for the plants. Dig big holes.

6. From what I can see, the soil looks good. But you need to dig down at least a foot to see what you have.

I grow in big trees when there is no other option, but try to find where a tree has died or blown down. That increases the sunshine as well as brush growth. I try to get in the middle of some very thick brush and cut enough to make space for plants. The brush is good ground level camo. I weave long limber brush together to make a screen to block the side vision. Also young saplings can be bent over to let in more sun. Just find a dead limb heavy enough to hold it down as far as you want it. Trimming the nearby trees this time of year will mean the dead leaves won't stand out. Another option is to ring a bigger tree to kill it, then grow under the bare limbs. It will take a couple of years before the wood is rotten enough to start dropping limbs.

Good luck,

Larro

RIU ate my earlier post, I posted again, then it gave it back up. So the extra post. It gave me time to think of my reply.

What about this spot between backyard subdivision fences and some medical building, main concern is grass cutters and weed whacker from medical building. Thanks

thanks guys i appreciate the advice, due to the security of the location which is very important to me, i think i will plant here. Worst case scenario the plants dont yield much, that tree there is falling over and dead so i will probably chop it down for extra light. i took some more pictures and will post them later. I have been there in the summer well about june, and it has good light shining through, it could be better of course, but finding the perfect spot is hard.

Man canada looks pretty. I want to go to the first spot with a 50/50 flower/kif blunt.

I really don't belong in the outdoor section, but rollitup is broken and it's my day off, I'm bored enough

Looking at the spot from the tree cover, you can see where the light enters

A couple pics of the spot, got bored and did some digging added some perlite ( wasn't mixed in in the pics) and some 101010 and domolite lime

Well since you're hellbent on that spot then you should probably clear out the surrounding trees. You'll see what happens 3-4 weeks into spring when those trees fully fill out and the light is shit at ground level.
I'd saw those right beside where you're clearing up.
But like I said ferns = low light area. You're going to get diddly squat from that spot unless you clear those trees out in the surrounding area. You're going to do nothing but waste a whole lot of time and be disappointed as hell unless you really work that area.
You can saw them down or there's other methods.
Find some train tracks then use Google Maps and scan the area via satellite view for your other spots. Or initial scouting anyways.

thanks monkey grinder, i am definetely going to cut down those trees, the ones in front of the holes im going to cut them all down. It shouldnt be too bad they are about 6-10 around in diameter. I think once thats done it will be a good spot, as the light seemed good in may for sun.

TJ baba said:

What about this spot between backyard subdivision fences and some medical building, main concern is grass cutters and weed whacker from medical building. Thanks View attachment 3573234 View attachment 3573239

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no funking way unless you like jail...

That is an awful spot @TJ baba

Vancouver 1234 - Any hunters that see that perlite mess will know exactly where to go next October.

corso312 i agree, luckily i am a hunter and i know the area and regs very well. No one hunts this neck of the woods due to regs, this spot is very secure