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Tx-Peanutt

Tx-Peanutt

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Rolla J said:
Nothing like premature bud! I did see a cpl Amber heads. But I'd let it go for aleast another week and check the trichs again. Good to be patient. Whenever I get the urge to chop early I just close the door and try to forget about it and occupy my time doing something else. Not worth it to chop early. Ya been growing for this long, what's another week :) get that bud nice and stoney. I like to chop the whole plant take off the big fan leaves hang for 3 days. Then retrim and collect some of the smaller leaves and hang again for 3 more days. And then I chop off the main branches dry for another day or 2. Destem the bud and do a final trim. And jar from there
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Do u feed the last week I have to water tonight for sure I checked this morning at 4 am and they were damp so I’m guessing they dry by now... I was thinking about 4 grams of MEGACROP and a teaspoon of blackstrap or beastie blooms ( not sure about beastie blooms cuz of flavor) ... What’s your opinion???And 5ml of cal/mag
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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SchmoeJoe said:
There's a lot of important single steps to harvesting. A big one is to remove all leaves that don't have at least a decent amount of resin. Buds dried with all of the leaf left on will smell like leaf no matter how killer it might have been to start.
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I have never heard this before. Or read it. The best tasting pot I have tried is outdoor grown then dried while upside down in a barn completely intact with every leaf.

More leaves. Slower drying. Better final results.

As long as conditions don't breed mold of course.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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There is a very good reason to chop in the dark or as early as possible in the day. It's the same reason plants are left in the dark 24 hrs before harvest.

When the lights come on. The plant starts bringing up carbohydrates from its roots. When they go off the carbs (sugars) go back down and are stored there.

Carbs make harsher weed. And possibly black ash.

And I would let the plant go another week or so also.
 
mr sunshine

mr sunshine

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SchmoeJoe said:
There's a lot of important single steps to harvesting. A big one is to remove all leaves that don't have at least a decent amount of resin. Buds dried with all of the leaf left on will smell like leaf no matter how killer it might have been to start.
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Fuck no it won't, thats completely wrong...
 
Jypsy Dog

Jypsy Dog

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MichiganMedGrower said:
There is a very good reason to chop in the dark or as early as possible in the day. It's the same reason plants are left in the dark 24 hrs before harvest.

When the lights come on. The plant starts bringing up carbohydrates from its roots. When they go off the carbs (sugars) go back down and are stored there.

Carbs make harsher weed. And possibly black ash.

And I would let the plant go another week or so also.
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Same reason you pick Sweet Corn at Sun-Up.
 
Rolla J

Rolla J

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Tx-Peanutt said:
Do u feed the last week I have to water tonight for sure I checked this morning at 4 am and they were damp so I’m guessing they dry by now... I was thinking about 4 grams of MEGACROP and a teaspoon of blackstrap or beastie blooms ( not sure about beastie blooms cuz of flavor) ... What’s your opinion???And 5ml of cal/mag
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I tend to harvest 8 to 9 week plants I feed in the 7th week. And then water when the soil is dry. And then harvest the morning of lights on after the soil dried out. There r many different options. Could feed with diluted nutes as well.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Tx-Peanutt said:
Next Friday...Woo hoo:clap::lol: I’m gonna feed her 3/4 of nutes ... Need y’all opinion blackstrap molasses or beastie blooms or a waist of nutes
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I would feed less than you have been and only base nutes. She is almost done growing except for final maturing and ripening. She needs some nutes but very little.

I usually taper off the concentration starting the last 2 weeks or so. Giving only what she needs hopefully.

I don't even use a bloom product. It is completely unnecessary. And no extra mag this late in the Grow. And molasses offers plants very little nutrition available to them despite the human FDA label. And plants need no additional sugars they make them for themselves and any micro life in the root zone.

I would go 1/2 nutes and taper down to 1/4 to just water at this point.

I start cutting nutes down right after peak bloom when the pistils start receding. Unless the plant asks for more.
 
SchmoeJoe

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Tx-Peanutt said:
Next Friday...Woo hoo:clap::lol: I’m gonna feed her 3/4 of nutes ... Need y’all opinion blackstrap molasses or beastie blooms or a waist of nutes
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The best use for molasses is as a carb source for feeding microbes. If you're not inoculating your soil then there's not much use. It's also a good source of magnesium but as far as using it at the end I would only go that route if you were trying stimulate microbial activity as a sort of semi flush.
 
SchmoeJoe

SchmoeJoe

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Cletus clem said:
This is not correct. Like, at all. If your bud smells like leaf, you fucked up drying and curing. Has absolutely nothing to do with leaving the leaves on. If anything, more likely to smell like hay from taking too much off and it drying out too much/too fast.

I would say at least a week.
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There are a number of other things that can cause the same thing but all else being equal leaving all of the fan leaves on while it dries will ruin the smell and flavor.
 
SchmoeJoe

SchmoeJoe

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I have never heard this before. Or read it. The best tasting pot I have tried is outdoor grown then dried while upside down in a barn completely intact with every leaf.

More leaves. Slower drying. Better final results.

As long as conditions don't breed mold of course.
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I used to feel the same way about it being better because it helps to slow down and even out the drying process. Then I did a side by side comparison. I'll never leave the big leaves in again. None of the licensed professional recreational growers I know do either.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Let your bud go longer ... More recede and cloudiness needed ...

As far as some tips :
I read about this and have done this a couple of times .....
Last week of harvest let plant finish its last watering , then let plant go DRY in pot.
Take all the leaf matter that isn't frosted off the plant ...
Kind of DRYING ON THE VINE .... Once dried , snip buds into large Tupperware or whatever .... Break down colas and jar as usual .... With a hygrometer to see where you range in RH. This one was in a 1 gallon Hempy bucket so drying this way worked well.

1000 ways to skin a cat .....

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MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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SchmoeJoe said:
I used to feel the same way about it being better because it helps to slow down and even out the drying process. Then I did a side by side comparison. I'll never leave the big leaves in again. None of the licensed professional recreational growers I know do either.
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I already know for sure leaving the leaves on for longer slower drying is better. I don't have the space to do that. I have to hang branches in a closet. So I only leave bud leaves intact and usually can hang dry 7-10 days before jarring. But it's not ideal. I will hang whole plants cut from the base in a future build. And trim over time the long way. Cured on the vine so to speak.

And what "professional" rec growers do is for speed and money. Not the highest quality. That's what small medical growers are about.

Why would leaving the leaves on hurt anything unless your environment promoted mold or something?

Or were you just not patient enough for the better weed?

It takes a lot longer to dry and it is done in stages.
 
SchmoeJoe

SchmoeJoe

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MichiganMedGrower said:
I already know for sure leaving the leaves on for longer slower drying is better. I don't have the space to do that. I have to hang branches in a closet. So I only leave bud leaves intact and usually can hang dry 7-10 days before jarring. But it's not ideal. I will hang whole plants cut from the base in a future build. And trim over time the long way. Cured on the vine so to speak.

And what "professional" rec growers do is for speed and money. Not the highest quality. That's what small medical growers are about.

Why would leaving the leaves on hurt anything unless your environment promoted mold or something?

Or were you just not patient enough for the better weed?

It takes a lot longer to dry and it is done in stages.
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The growers I know are in a very competitive market and can't afford to compromise quality. I leave all of the good trim, or bud leaves as you called them, on the buds to dry in order to preserve the quality of the trim and remove everything else.

I'm not doing it this way out of impatience. I'm doing it this way because I've conducted side by side comparisons using the scientific method and have always found the buds dried without the the big leaves to be much better. I've also done a comparison of buds from plants that were allowed to go dry just before harvest to otherwise identical buds from the same crop and found that they weren't nearly as smooth or flavorful after a full dry and cure.
 
Cletus clem

Cletus clem

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SchmoeJoe said:
The growers I know are in a very competitive market and can't afford to compromise quality. I leave all of the good trim, or bud leaves as you called them, on the buds to dry in order to preserve the quality of the trim and remove everything else.

I'm not doing it this way out of impatience. I'm doing it this way because I've conducted side by side comparisons using the scientific method and have always found the buds dried without the the big leaves to be much better. I've also done a comparison of buds from plants that were allowed to go dry just before harvest to otherwise identical buds from the same crop and found that they weren't nearly as smooth or flavorful after a full dry and cure.
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Peer reviewed data and what was your control? All clones from the same mother? Flavor and aroma have zero to do with fan leaves and everything to do with the drying, curing and storage process.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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SchmoeJoe said:
The growers I know are in a very competitive market and can't afford to compromise quality. I leave all of the good trim, or bud leaves as you called them, on the buds to dry in order to preserve the quality of the trim and remove everything else.

I'm not doing it this way out of impatience. I'm doing it this way because I've conducted side by side comparisons using the scientific method and have always found the buds dried without the the big leaves to be much better. I've also done a comparison of buds from plants that were allowed to go dry just before harvest to otherwise identical buds from the same crop and found that they weren't nearly as smooth or flavorful after a full dry and cure.
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You still are saying "full dry and cure" but are still leaving out a time frame. If they were fully dry the one with more leaves will always taste better.

It is cleaner, faster and easier the way we are doing it. But not slower and better.

Also the trim is not better preserved per se if left on the buds. The buds dry slower with them intact is the reason to leave them on.

I do collect dry resin glands through a screen as I trim because it is dry. And I cure my trim in jars with the rest of the flowers for best results in coconut oil for edibles.

And grower side by sides do not follow scientific method. That would require controls, repetition and an outside party conducting the tests.
 
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