Have you ever put flowering plant back into veg?

lc666

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photo shows 30 day reveg in 18/6 had to trim the buds and old leaves I left behind in order to make the plant grow faster. I'm going to reflower them in a week or two. I might try flowering with 14/10 or 13/11 to get 10-30% more yield, it takes 1-2 weeks longer to fully flower. Also, I'm thinking less stress on the plants when revegging them again. I've tried doing the seasonal cycle by cutting 1 hour down each week from 20/4 to 8/16 It yield great but lots of work growing multiple strains when they all have different flowering time. It was a waste of time experimenting the seasonal cycle lol...
 

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gladstoned

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I cut a budding branch and put it in the cloner. It's starting to root and hopefully it will reveg MUCH faster.
 

Farmer CBD

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Can you take a plant thats in the beginning of week 4 flower and throw it outside in June? The hours of the day are still long so it would technically go back into veg right?
 

Dr.Pecker

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Yes you can do it. It's how I held on to many of the awesome strains I have now. With a budding plant try to keep leafs. keep a few lower buds, you just want to feed a few buds. give it high nitrogen and go 24 hours a day light for a month When it starts growing. trim off all minor branches(lowers and inside) you will get a lot of branches from a bud. Dont over trim when you do it like this it gets bushy.
 

Farmer CBD

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Thanks for the good advice. The only thing I'm unsure about is the light 24 hours a day. I'll be actually planting them outside in the ground. Would that still work out ok?
 

Dr.Pecker

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It will take a while and you might get some buds but not like you would if it had all year to grow. what I would do is plant in a pot and when it starts growing back move it under the light indoors. not all plants will respond the same way. It doesn't always work either some plants don't come back. thats why I suggested the 24hour lighting and high nitrogen. Good luck with it all you can do is try.
 

A-DOG

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Growing organic and screwed up bad. My container was w/o nitrogen, and I didn't add enough to revive it, untill I DUMPED tons of fish on it a week later. Most of the leaves turned yellow and have left the tops green and some smaller leaves. I was trying to flower during the whole process, and thought it woudn't grow too good w/o much energy. The baby caylx was starting to grow 8 days later, when I thought to revert it. It is a big plant for veg. 21". I have it on 22//0 hrs. lighting . I thought it was a good plant untill this happened. Feminized ( mix seed?) I hope it recovers. Not any growth change.
 
I moved some indoor plants outside for the summer and they began to flower. Will they go back to veg without any problems as the days get longer or should i work on them some.
 

BobCajun

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Does anyone know how to clone?


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No, it's a complete mystery. Sorry for the sarcasm just it's very easy. You just get some peat pellets, sold for starting seedlings, soak em in water until they expand fully and won't absorb any more, take as big of cuttings as you can, like maximum 8", spray them with water as soon as possible, including the cut ends, and keep them in a plastic bag until you get them processed, meaning making a new clean cut with a razor blade after cutting off any lower branches so there's enough clean stem to stick into the pellets, dipping the lower 1-2 cm in rooting gel, not powder because it dries it out and is mainly for rooting tree cuttings, then cut off the ends of the large leaves to reduce water requirement and make them easier to fit into a clone chamber.

For the chamber, some kind of container that will retain moisture and supply light. I recommend a 40w replacement LED bulb, like 2700k color. What I did myself was mount the bulb in the bottom of one container, in a socket which I mounted through a hole I drilled with a saw toothed couple inches diameter hole cutting bit and then turned it upside down over another similar container. I drilled a few holes a couple inches up from the bottom of the lower container for air. Each container is about 10" high. I put some clips on the edges where they meet, to hold them together when I move the chamber around.

Then I just put the cuttings, stuck in the peat pellets, in the bottom container, which fills them right up wall to wall. I put 12 in, 3x4. Then I lay a sheet of clear poly, from a clear garbage bag, over the top of the lower container and put the top container on over the plastic and clip the containers together and plug the cord in and leave it on 24/7, sitting on somewhere a little warm. After 3 days I water the pellets with a mild nutrient solution, pulling out the runoff with a turkey baster after tilting the container so it all runs into one corner. After 5 days they have roots starting to grow out through the pellets, at which point I pot em up and keep them in the container, without the plastic, until well established. I also drilled air holes in the top container to avoid heat buildup.

That's how I did it. You could use some other type of clone chamber, even a commercial one. The important things are the 40w LED bulb (5w actual power draw) and the peat pellets. Also not allowing the pellets to sit in water. You don't want them to stay too wet, which is why I just sit em on the bottom of the container, no extra water involved. The moisture in the pellets keeps the air humid enough and they gradually get less wet over the first 3 days, which prevents rotting of the cutting stems.

Also, if you see one or more cuttings have wilted after a while, you have to make a fresh cut on the end of the stem because it means that the original end sealed up and isn't drawing water anymore. It happens fairly frequently. You can make a new cut as often as required. Roots will grow out the sides of the stem anyway so the end being recut doesn't matter.
 
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Detroit J420

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Ok so I have saved a few plants from a bad home. These are flowering and have been for around 20 days. They are very short and need to be revegged for a while to get tall enough to be worth finishing. I have never reverted back to veg before. Although I have had outside plants start to flower and then due to natural light conditions start to veg again.

Questions...

if these start to veg again how long will it take to change from flower back to veg?

if they do start to veg will they stretch again down the road when back on 12/12. I figure since I have the extra room ill give it a shot. Right now these girls are under 10 inches and fully out of the stretch. I got them under a 600w at 18/6.

Any opinions on this? I will post my results as they come. This should be interesting to say the least.

But hey...ill give it a shot.

i have cut the bottom 4 inches off of soil off with a knife, add some fresh soil, immediately hit with veg nutes.. put under MH 6500K for fastest results.. shouldn't be longer then 6 weeks to really see it go
 

Patribee

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Years of growing medical mmj in Seattle/Tacoma, experimenting, and spending over $5k in professional setup and supplies!
I finally figured out how to grow low cost with success.

I'm going to toss all my plants back to veg, when they finished flowering from 12/12 to 18/6, and grow them 2 weeks in 18/6 before cropping them. I want to let keep them reveg for 4-6wks before flowering them again. I saw more immature buds growing from the bottom during the first week and after the 2nd week is when new small leave starts shooting out of the buds. I plan to crop almost everything off the plants, before new leaves starts shooting out of the buds, and just leaving the last node on a bud from each branch that I want to keep. New shoots will start growing from that tiny piece of bud left on there. I've already tried cropping after reveg for 2 weeks with some top shelf buds left on there. It made the nodes on the buds spread a little bit more and made the bud fluffier instead of being dense. The plant kept growing with no more thc production after a week, when new leaves shoots out there is no crystals on it. I didn't taste any difference in the quality of the bud except it was fluffier and you can smell it better after drying it.

Oh one important thing, I am growing "vegan organic" with Growers Gold indoor mix from Home Depot and homemade vegetable tea 7-1-4 that I make daily with my homemade 1605w LED lights setup. I have cut my cost down to $350 for building the 3 x 535w led lights, 3x3x3 & 3x3x5 panda film tent on 3/4" pvc frame, and 30 cents to make 6 gallons of veggie tea to feed them every other day. That's $4.5 a month on fertilizer and I get to drink the tea that I make for them but more concentrated lol. I turn 1 quart into 6 gallons. I don't need to flush my plants, there is no nutes in it. No snap, crackle, and pop when blazing up the buds at all. This is how I got away from flushing and killing my plants like before. I've only started growing vegan organic about 2 months ago, the bud taste sweeter, and the plant grew way better. I didn't even need to switch fertilizer from veg to flower. It's the same veggie tea I make for them daily, just more concentrated during flowering.

I will never use nutes again. It beats making more clones and killing my flowering plants. It takes 3-7 days to make clones and another 7-10 days to baby it. That's at least 2-3 weeks wasted to make a 6-10" baby plants and another 6-8wks for the stems and roots to get big. The way I'm growing now will save money and make my plant bigger each time I reveg, meaning more buds each time I crop. I've already made seeds, so my next mission is to see how many times I can reveg my plants before the quality goes down by growing vegan organic. Normally growers will switch mother plants after 1.5-2 years when they decrease in potency, I am hoping it's the same with F1 clones, and forget the mother plant lol. I will be able to reveg and crop each plant 3-5 times per year depending on the strains.

Also I did tried breeding a fully flowered plant just before putting them back into vegging. I was hoping to create seeds in veg but no success, the hairs stayed white. Next time I will try breeding 2-3 weeks before revegging.

The photo of the Indica is GSC male x Cannatonic = Girl Scout Tonic
The Sativa is Kali Mist male x Harlequin growing too tall, had to super crop it first 3 weeks into flowering.
The photo of the 3 nugs is GSC x Cannatonic cropped after flowering.
The photo with 2 nugs is GSC x Cannatonic cropped after 2 weeks into revegging.
The photo of reveg is GSC x Cannatonic is about 17-20 days into revegging a few days after I cropped it.
The LED's are 8020 ,7020 in the center and 5630, 5730 on the sides.
 

Patribee

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photo shows 30 day reveg in 18/6 had to trim the buds and old leaves I left behind in order to make the plant grow faster. I'm going to reflower them in a week or two. I might try flowering with 14/10 or 13/11 to get 10-30% more yield, it takes 1-2 weeks longer to fully flower. Also, I'm thinking less stress on the plants when revegging them again. I've tried doing the seasonal cycle by cutting 1 hour down each week from 20/4 to 8/16 It yield great but lots of work growing multiple strains when they all have different flowering time. It was a waste of time experimenting the seasonal cycle lol...
I am attempting vegan no till in Central America. Lots of unscrupulous growers here and plenty of headaches after smoking the overpriced garbage inspired me. I am making teas, but I feel I could do more including buying a bunny at the border for the doo doo. Can you share any nice recipes? Please and thank you! Oh, I also am having success with reveg- but wondering to scrog or not to scrog
 

MERK JEEH

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If you're just trying to veg a few more inches out of them don't waste your time. I've done it before when I forget to reset my timers after a previous grow. It took a couple weeks just to kick back into some real vegetative growth, and pushed out some crazy mutant leaves in the process. Unless you're trying to at least double the size of them I wouldn't even waste my time. If you think its really worth it I'd put them on a 24/0 or 20/4 photoperiod To kick them back in the veg faster.


THANK U FOR UR HARD WORK.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF REVEGGING PLANTS & THEN FLOWERING THEM, (AFTER) THEYVE FULLY REVEGGED & HAVE BECOME 100% HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE VEG LEAVES,
WILL DEPRECIATE THE QUALITY
(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY)
OF THE BUDS?

SO PRETTY MUCH..
IF THAT SAME EXACT PLANT (NEVER) WENT INTO ACCIDENTAL FLOWERING... WOULD THAT PLANT PRODUCE HIGHER GRADE (AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD VS
THE SAME EXACT CLONE COPY OF IT THAT HAD ACCIDENTALLY WENT INTO FLOWER THEN REVEGGED UNTIL FULLY HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE LEAVES & THEN FLOWERED?

I WANT TO KNOW IF REVEGGING A FLOWERING PLANT (CAUGHT EARLY) WOULD PRODUCE LOWER GRADE
(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD THAN
ITS EXACT COPY CLONE SISTER PLANT THAT WAS GROWN STRAIGHT WITH NO ACCIDENTAL FLOWER & REVEG?

ANYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE PLEASE REPLY SOON.
 

MERK JEEH

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I am thinking like Marty , the tips of a plant at 21 days in are hormone induced at this point and reversal will be very slow and possibly messy as mentioned . I would cut all tips back that have begun to flower as those will explode with scraggly branches initially and usually they grow retarded and mutated until fully reversed . By cutting out flowers you will be able to reveg the lower nodes in a much more productive manner .

As mentioned above , 24/0 light schedule and be generous with the Nitrogen the first few weeks I like 20-10-10 or 20-20-20 for this purpose .. I used to reveg garden after garden and the bigger the buds the worse the reveg imho .


THANK U FOR UR HARD WORK.


DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF REVEGGING PLANTS & THEN FLOWERING THEM, (AFTER) THEYVE FULLY REVEGGED & HAVE BECOME 100% HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE VEG LEAVES,

WILL DEPRECIATE THE QUALITY

(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY)

OF THE BUDS?


SO PRETTY MUCH..

IF THAT SAME EXACT PLANT (NEVER) WENT INTO ACCIDENTAL FLOWERING... WOULD THAT PLANT PRODUCE HIGHER GRADE (AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD VS

THE SAME EXACT CLONE COPY OF IT THAT HAD ACCIDENTALLY WENT INTO FLOWER THEN REVEGGED UNTIL FULLY HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE LEAVES & THEN FLOWERED?


I WANT TO KNOW IF REVEGGING A FLOWERING PLANT (CAUGHT EARLY) WOULD PRODUCE LOWER GRADE

(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD THAN

ITS EXACT COPY CLONE SISTER PLANT THAT WAS GROWN STRAIGHT WITH NO ACCIDENTAL FLOWER & REVEG?


ANYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE PLEASE REPLY SOON.
 

MERK JEEH

Member
all the above...

I'm a seasoned re-vegger. cut back the plant removing as much bud(ish) as possible while leaving the leaf. flush. dark period 24-48 hours. back on veg nutes and light


THANK U FOR UR HARD WORK.


DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF REVEGGING PLANTS & THEN FLOWERING THEM, (AFTER) THEYVE FULLY REVEGGED & HAVE BECOME 100% HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE VEG LEAVES,

WILL DEPRECIATE THE QUALITY

(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY)

OF THE BUDS?


SO PRETTY MUCH..

IF THAT SAME EXACT PLANT (NEVER) WENT INTO ACCIDENTAL FLOWERING... WOULD THAT PLANT PRODUCE HIGHER GRADE (AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD VS

THE SAME EXACT CLONE COPY OF IT THAT HAD ACCIDENTALLY WENT INTO FLOWER THEN REVEGGED UNTIL FULLY HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE LEAVES & THEN FLOWERED?


I WANT TO KNOW IF REVEGGING A FLOWERING PLANT (CAUGHT EARLY) WOULD PRODUCE LOWER GRADE

(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD THAN

ITS EXACT COPY CLONE SISTER PLANT THAT WAS GROWN STRAIGHT WITH NO ACCIDENTAL FLOWER & REVEG?


ANYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE PLEASE REPLY SOON.
 

Resinxtractor

Well-Known Member
THANK U FOR UR HARD WORK.


DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF REVEGGING PLANTS & THEN FLOWERING THEM, (AFTER) THEYVE FULLY REVEGGED & HAVE BECOME 100% HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE VEG LEAVES,

WILL DEPRECIATE THE QUALITY

(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY)

OF THE BUDS?


SO PRETTY MUCH..

IF THAT SAME EXACT PLANT (NEVER) WENT INTO ACCIDENTAL FLOWERING... WOULD THAT PLANT PRODUCE HIGHER GRADE (AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD VS

THE SAME EXACT CLONE COPY OF IT THAT HAD ACCIDENTALLY WENT INTO FLOWER THEN REVEGGED UNTIL FULLY HEALTHY & PRODUCING 7 BLADE LEAVES & THEN FLOWERED?


I WANT TO KNOW IF REVEGGING A FLOWERING PLANT (CAUGHT EARLY) WOULD PRODUCE LOWER GRADE

(AROMAS, FLAVORS, POTENCY) BUD THAN

ITS EXACT COPY CLONE SISTER PLANT THAT WAS GROWN STRAIGHT WITH NO ACCIDENTAL FLOWER & REVEG?


ANYBODY KNOWLEDGEABLE PLEASE REPLY SOON.
Ok I had a super lemon OG plant from seed that I grew from DNA genetics limited line. I decided to re-vegged that plant. I harvested it and left some big fan leaves and a few small buds at the bottom. I then place the plant in to total darkness for 48 hours to reset the plants internal clock and hormones. Then vegged for about a month under 18/6 and it got quite big again. I took cuttings then gave the re-vegged plant to a buddy to flower for his first grow. It seems to be doing well.
 
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