HELP, cant figure out plant problems

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kittycakes

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I noticed a problem 1 week after i switched to flower and concluded it was probably PH problems + nute burn; so i flushed with normal PH'ed water and now the problem is not going away, more spots have started to show up and the leaves are starting to show yellow spots and discoloration. leaves are curling up like burning AND clawing like they have nitrogen toxicity. the leaves on my newest buds have started to twist and grow abnormally, and the yellow tips are still present.
its not a huge problem atm, but im pretty sure this will ruin my harvest if left untreated.

i tested the runoff water and it stands on around 6.5. so no problem there
i though they just needed nutes so i started on mild nutrents again with no resoult.

i am growing indoor in soil (organic, biobizz). they are 26 days into flower (ca) and have 3x150w CFL. i water every other day.

i have recently started suspecting spider mites or some kind of bug, even broad mites. but i am so broke i can barely afford one fix, so i need to be sure of what the problem is before i run out to buy some fix.
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kittycakes said:
I noticed a problem 1 week after i switched to flower and concluded it was probably PH problems + nute burn; so i flushed with normal PH'ed water and now the problem is not going away, more spots have started to show up and the leaves are starting to show yellow spots and discoloration. leaves are curling up like burning AND clawing like they have nitrogen toxicity. the leaves on my newest buds have started to twist and grow abnormally, and the yellow tips are still present.
its not a huge problem atm, but im pretty sure this will ruin my harvest if left untreated.

i tested the runoff water and it stands on around 6.5. so no problem there
i though they just needed nutes so i started on mild nutrents again with no resoult.

i am growing indoor in soil (organic, biobizz). they are 26 days into flower (ca) and have 3x150w CFL. i water every other day.

i have recently started suspecting spider mites or some kind of bug, even broad mites. but i am so broke i can barely afford one fix, so i need to be sure of what the problem is before i run out to buy some fix.
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The third pic with a spotted leaf. Turn that leaf over and look for mites. Doesnt seem like they are out of control. Maybe pull the infected leaves and hope for the best.
 
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kittycakes

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BuzzD2Kill said:
The third pic with a spotted leaf. Turn that leaf over and look for mites. Doesnt seem like they are out of control. Maybe pull the infected leaves and hope for the best.
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i looked with my microscope, and i saw one of them, and one of the lower leaves has obvious webbing on it. but the problem is somewhat tame for now.

"pull the infected leaves" what do you mean by that?
 
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lio lacidem

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kittycakes said:
i looked with my microscope, and i saw one of them, and one of the lower leaves has obvious webbing on it. but the problem is somewhat tame for now.

"pull the infected leaves" what do you mean by that?
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If you are seeing web It is not a tame infestation. Once you can see webs especially in flower its hard to get rid of them.
 
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kittycakes

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lio lacidem said:
If you are seeing web It is not a tame infestation. Once you can see webs especially in flower its hard to get rid of them.
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the only webbing i see is on one lower leaf, no webbing on the buds as far as i can tell. i have already cut that one leaf off. i am going to gently wash the plant in mild soap water. tomorrow im going to do the same thing but with a garlic+alcahol(99%) and water solution. and i plan on doing it every 3-4 days for the next few weeks. i heard the eggs are hard to get rid of.
 
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kittycakes said:
the only webbing i see is on one lower leaf, no webbing on the buds as far as i can tell. i have already cut that one leaf off. i am going to gently wash the plant in mild soap water. tomorrow im going to do the same thing but with a garlic+alcahol(99%) and water solution. and i plan on doing it every 3-4 days for the next few weeks. i heard the eggs are hard to get rid of.
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Webbing comes at an extreme mite population, or during sticky flowering they will use the webs to avoid getting stuck. Most will be on the undersides of the leaves. GL Happy Growing!
 
jarvild

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Alcohol will be hard on you're flowers. Best thing i found for flowering plants is SNS 217c. It's expensive but will take care of the eggs and adults.
 
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My plants always seem to spot and spreads to the whole plant on flower. Second grow that has done this. I am adding dolomite lime to next grow in case it's calcium.

Use fox farms trio on half grow and humboldt nutrients organic on other half. PH is 6.5 filtered water that is 9.3 from tap but when nutes are added it drops to 6.5.

I am wondering if I overdue the microbes. Roots are friggen solid or is it mag deficiency.

Pissin me off.
 

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kittycakes

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bullSnot said:
My plants always seem to spot and spreads to the whole plant on flower. Second grow that has done this. I am adding dolomite lime to next grow in case it's calcium.

Use fox farms trio on half grow and humboldt nutrients organic on other half. PH is 6.5 filtered water that is 9.3 from tap but when nutes are added it drops to 6.5.

I am wondering if I overdue the microbes. Roots are friggen solid or is it mag deficiency.

Pissin me off.
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sorry to hear, i figured out my grow had a spider mite infestation, great luck for a beginner fml. but check under the leaves and look for tiny almsot microscopic black specks and webs (thin fine webbing), and note that mites always start at the bottom of the plant and work their way up. the bottom leaves on my plants had webbing on them and that when i knew. i treated them with a mixture of soap, alcahol and lots of garlic(and water), the soap stays on the leaves for a while and literally suffocates the bastards, alcahol kills them and garlic repels them, as well as really hurting them. so good overall solution, but you might want to get something stronger if they are cannabis specific mites, they are persistant towards those normal means of elimination.
but note that buds are a lot harder to clean of mites than leaves. get them quick and repeat after 3-4 days (eggs are harder to kill)
 
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Not a pest on them. I even look under a zorb microscope. it is nutrient issue caused by lack of something, too much of something. I may scale back on feeding on a few the next grow and not use 1tsp of kangaroots and microbrew in the nutes.
I took four clones off this batch so I will have the same genetics. Blue Dream and Red Diesel

Now that I see these leaves ...it could be over fertilizing and locking out mg,cal and potassium. Due to how dark and green the leaf wants to be.
 

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kittycakes

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bullSnot said:
Not a pest on them. I even look under a zorb microscope. it is nutrient issue caused by lack of something, too much of something. I may scale back on feeding on a few the next grow and not use 1tsp of kangaroots and microbrew in the nutes.
I took four clones off this batch so I will have the same genetics. Blue Dream and Red Diesel

Now that I see these leaves ...it could be over fertilizing and locking out mg,cal and potassium. Due to how dark and green the leaf wants to be.
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yeah, definetly looks like a nute burn, or a lockup. like you said, best to probably flush with water a couple of weeks and take them off fertilizer entirely for a while and see how they develop. wish you and your plants the best, happy growing :D
 
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