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Stoneraj420

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Ok it’s day 45 of these blue dream autos. fox farm trio feeding schedules at 1/4 dose plus cal mag at ph of 6.39 fed two days ago and now this is happening? Burnt tips, clawing, brown spots and deteriorating leaves. There’s so many things I need help figuring out how to fix it or if it’s saveable. 29522EFC-1548-47C9-AC87-5D98218C8CFD.jpegBAE0CFDD-6146-4F27-9743-144514BD7DE4.jpeg
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Liamp1603

Liamp1603

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Cut back the feeding you have nitrogen toxicity( leaves clawing down) going on so you may have some sort of burn which are the spots or it could be not enough oxygen around the roots ..... the leaves are very dark green which shows you got enough nitrogen there at this moment they should be getting more p and k into them otherwise you may end up with fluffy buds ... also if the pot is super heavy I'd say it's more than likely overwatered and starving for oxygen let it dry out and hold off the watering for a while let it get a good dry back then resume the watering with less of the nitrogen plant okay tho and should bounce back if you can up the temps it may help with your drying out process faster happy growing
 
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Stoneraj420

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Liamp1603 said:
Cut back the feeding you have nitrogen toxicity( leaves clawing down) going on so you may have some sort of burn which are the spots or it could be not enough oxygen around the roots ..... the leaves are very dark green which shows you got enough nitrogen there at this moment they should be getting more p and k into them otherwise you may end up with fluffy buds ... also if the pot is super heavy I'd say it's more than likely overwatered and starving for oxygen let it dry out and hold off the watering for a while let it get a good dry back then resume the watering with less of the nitrogen plant okay tho and should bounce back if you can up the temps it may help with your drying out process faster happy growing
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Thanks for the insight. So let it dry out and just resume normal watering with less nutrients? No need to flush it? Will that just hurt it more because it’s already drenched?
 
Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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Your plants are in bigger pots than they needed
I would have let them veg longer
Now you are dealing with over watering/feeding issues
Flushing would just soak the soil longer
Cut back on frequency and next time let plants grow before flipping or use smaller pots
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I just noticed autos
Overwatering would explain tiny plants
 
Liamp1603

Liamp1603

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Stoneraj420 said:
Thanks for the insight. So let it dry out and just resume normal watering with less nutrients? No need to flush it? Will that just hurt it more because it’s already drenched?
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Not less nutrient you need to lower to nitrogen ratio I have no experience with the nutes your using but I'm assuming like most there's an a + b as your base plus your boosters for flowering if you cut down your base you cut out the nitrogen .... I've just looked and the fox farms trio and it is th grow big tiger bloom and big bloom?
I think you need to cut the grow big out as this is technically your base and where all your nitrogen is coming from ..... I'm not hundred percent tho try and find someone who is using these nutes before you make any adjustments.
Like herbs has said you need to cut back frequency of watering first and let them use up some stored nutes id just use ph'd water next time when the pots are dry for a few waterings
 
singlecoiled

singlecoiled

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Liamp1603 said:
Not less nutrient you need to lower to nitrogen ratio I have no experience with the nutes your using but I'm assuming like most there's an a + b as your base plus your boosters for flowering if you cut down your base you cut out the nitrogen .... I've just looked and the fox farms trio and it is th grow big tiger bloom and big bloom?
I think you need to cut the grow big out as this is technically your base and where all your nitrogen is coming from ..... I'm not hundred percent tho try and find someone who is using these nutes before you make any adjustments.
Like herbs has said you need to cut back frequency of watering first and let them use up some stored nutes id just use ph'd water next time when the pots are dry for a few waterings
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Grow big shouldnt be used in late flower according to the fox farm feeding schedule, but the OP's pics seem to be early flower.

I'm not sure though, if the OP is following this schedule at 1/4 strength, this shouldnt happen.

Does the cal mag supplement have nitrogen in it?


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singlecoiled

singlecoiled

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Stoneraj420 said:
Ok it’s day 45 of these blue dream autos. fox farm trio feeding schedules at 1/4 dose plus cal mag at ph of 6.39 fed two days ago and now this is happening? Burnt tips, clawing, brown spots and deteriorating leaves. There’s so many things I need help figuring out how to fix it or if it’s saveable.
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What Cal Mag supplement are you using? Something like Sensi Cal Mag+ can add too much nitrogen. I ran into this problem using a Cal mag supplement late in flower (also using fox farm trio nutes)


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curious2garden

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Liamp1603 said:
Not less nutrient you need to lower to nitrogen ratio I have no experience with the nutes your using but I'm assuming like most there's an a + b as your base plus your boosters for flowering if you cut down your base you cut out the nitrogen .... I've just looked and the fox farms trio and it is th grow big tiger bloom and big bloom?
I think you need to cut the grow big out as this is technically your base and where all your nitrogen is coming from ..... I'm not hundred percent tho try and find someone who is using these nutes before you make any adjustments.
Like herbs has said you need to cut back frequency of watering first and let them use up some stored nutes id just use ph'd water next time when the pots are dry for a few waterings
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I agree but I'd cut everything and not water until she dries out a bit. Then I'd just give her some tap water until a bit of that purple/green fades. N is mobile. If his tap doesn't have sufficient Ca I'd add a little of that but nothing else for a time or two. I'd go for 250 to 350 PPM.

LOL many roads lead to Rome
 
obijohn

obijohn

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As mentioned above, overwatering. But also, FF nutes shouldn't be used in the amount per feeding on the chart. I use half, usually even less per feeding and haven't had any deficiencies
 
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Stoneraj420

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Thanks everyone yea I like so many other first time growers I got over excited and overwatered from the start. I’m gonna let her dry out before doing anything else. Last question. Do I defoliate the effected leaves?
 
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