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Help please, my girls are not doing well,

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by theflowerman.dc, Oct 13, 2017.

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    theflowerman.dc

    theflowerman.dc Active Member

    On day 26, and barely got pistils, like all other ladies

    Is this normal?

    It doesnt have those lots of pistils shooting/sticking up.
     

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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Since my chips are stuck right to the hollow aluminum block the water passes through with less than 5mm of material between the two, I can confidently say that my junction temperatures are very likely not to be much more than 1-2 degrees C higher than the temperature of the water passing through my fixtures. That's how I can put my hand on a Bible and say I've run my chips at 60F or 15C with confidence. I had serious condensation problems for my trouble, too! I've also run them as warm as 60C with no ill effects. In fact, the warmer temperatures made for happier plants due to better transpiration.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Still down, I'm afraid. All this is based on past experience.

    One more variable to add to the mix; lenses. My fixtures have relatively tight 80 degree lenses, which tends to keep the light quite concentrated and thus encourages a bit more distance. My chips driven at 54W seem to do best between 18-30" or 50-80cm, give or take.

    Environmental conditions make a big difference. Temperature and humidity affect transpiration and therefore growth. LED grows have less infrared in the mix so these factors are even more important.
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    lol i agree. but my plans arent gonna be the same this year as far as family stuff hah im just tryna prepare my new ladies and get my clone count up by christmas so i can start my new run by new years harvest my ladies i have going now by christmas. christmas will be 9 weeks !!
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    do you have a light meter?
     
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    Unit Farm System Supply

    Unit Farm System Supply Well-Known Member Rollitup Advertiser

    Hows your growing? Some picture?
     
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    tyke1973

    tyke1973 Well-Known Member

    Money well Spent DWCgrow2017,Next Christmas will be a good one .

    And Remember,A Grow Room is for Life not just Christmas.LOL

    My Grow Finishes,The day after Christmas day ,Boxing Day .Bit of Bad timing,this year in my grow room ,I all ways do them so they finish 2/3 weeks before Christmas.At least New Year ,will be a Serious Red Eye Time.
     
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    Buba Blend

    Buba Blend Well-Known Member

    I have always felt my plants were at their best when they are praying. :peace:
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    same here guess we are wrong
     
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    theflowerman.dc

    theflowerman.dc Active Member


    I have a small lux meter, from eBay
     
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    andy s

    andy s Well-Known Member

    check what it is on your canopy average overall
     
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    Lucky Luke

    Lucky Luke Well-Known Member

    Ive been a predominately outdoor grower so I never saw praying leaves until I moved inside and started to use smaller lights like the 600w I have now.
    That's what made me question the why. I don't think its a big deal if its only happening around the edges of a grow. if its happening all over the canopy then its a sign to lower the light IMO.
    Nice flat leaves basking in the light is what your after.
     
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    Lucky Luke

    Lucky Luke Well-Known Member

    I only recently was introduced to the transpirations graph. Very interesting.
     
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    Unit Farm System Supply

    Unit Farm System Supply Well-Known Member Rollitup Advertiser

    :clap::clap::clap::clap: Nice plans.
     
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    theflowerman.dc

    theflowerman.dc Active Member

    Okay i am already home for the night, i will check the lux reading for you tomorrow
     
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    tyke1973

    tyke1973 Well-Known Member

    No its caused by some kind of stress,be it heat or cold
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Anytime a plant is exposing less than the maximum of its leaf surface, there has to be a good reason for it.

    Check room VPD, (just use the chart), if you have an IR thermometer take a temp reading of the leaf surface and also the air at canopy level.

    If you have enough airflow you may remove some of the hot air between the plant and the light, but radiant heat works even in a vacuum (the sun, for example), so something on the other side of the vacuum can still be baked warm.
     
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    Budley Doright

    Budley Doright Well-Known Member

    My plants tend to pray through lights on then droop at lights off. Never took leaves praying as a bad thing. If they get to hot they tend to cup and drop. But yes my outdoor girls don't do that, interesting :).
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Even aquatic plants underwater close and open as they reach the amount of daily light they are used to.
     
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    tyke1973

    tyke1973 Well-Known Member

    Its not a Massive bad thing ,I would not worry about it,,A lot of the time it caused by Heat Stress,But mine are doing it a bit because of it been cold, lights off.I just leave em be,Has long has they look healthy then don't worry.But if they do it through Heat then i would try and bring the temps down.
     

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