Help! Theres light green worms eating my plant!

I found 2, picked them off, killed them. They are eating the leafs, they have destroyed about 20 leafs, ate holes in most of em, but big and multiple holes. I only found 2, when I looked em up, an I picked them off an squished one, then the other, I sprayed my 3-in-1 organic poison on it (Which I used for spider-mites about a month ago, an it worked) an it didnt kill him. I sprayed him directly, an he lived another 10min or so, then I sprayed more an it finally killed him after about 20 minutes or longer, an it took a lot, so I dont think spraying the plant down with it will help, since it took that much an direct contact.

I dont know what to do, theres only 1 plant... so if anyone has had this problem, please let me know what you did. I cant pick them all off, because they camouflage into the leafs, they are almost impossible to see, especially since there are still baby leafs sprouting, they look like those new leafs coming in... an they are the same exact color, that rich, lime green, that your new leafs are when they sprout.

I have to imagine there is more then 2, I looked the plant over for a good half hour, but only found those two. Any advice, past experience with them, would be gladly appreciated! Also, how did these come about to my plant, it has been indoor since day 1. Im now 3 days into flowering... thanks!

They look like caterpillars. Here is a direct link to a google image of one...

http://www.dicts.info/img/ud/inchworm.jpg

get a toothpick and check every single node and under every single leaf by moving em around to look, the worms will move if you poke em or touch em at all so it makes it easier to find em. start at the top and work your way down. i had this problem b4 and thats what i did and i killed like 6 of em but never saw another one the whole grow after that. spray the plants with the organic pesticide for the next week or 2(or longer if u are still worried some eggs might still be alive). kill the adults manually btw. dont bother spraying the adults, stuff always says its supposed to kill on contact but usually it takes 20+minutes if at all, just use it to kill the eggs.......

Those organic sprays arent suppose to kill on contact, what they do is block the bug from eating and they eventually die.
At least thats what I got from my safer bottle.

2 words neem and pyrethrum, pyrethrins cause bugs to loose the waxy coating on their shell/ skin causing them to dehydrate and loose the ability to thermoregulate, neem tastes fucking nasty believe me you only get that in your mouth once. Bugs 1 hate the taste of neem too and 2 it interrupts their ability to molt and grow this causes them to either move on or starve to death. You can buy both individually or find a product that has both like neem py by natures garden. but for it to be effective you need to spray both sides of the leaves top and bottom! or the little fuckers go hide on the bottom.

I found a few dead spots on my buds of my plant and the buds are very developed now and when I saw a dead spot on the buds(which I examine daily) I opened up the bud and found a green catipillar about an inch long. and then another one about 1/4 inch long in the same place inside the buds and I saw a dead zone or area and that was what made me check. Now I have 4 clones that i plnted outside after they were big enough and now I saw when i was inspecting the now forming buds on those and saw a few little white balls with holes on the top of the balls are those the moth or butterfly eggs that are hatching after they get consumed by the buds and eat there way out? or does anyone know what these white little balls are that are about the size of a pin head and i saw them as i was inspecting the buds and they were on the small leaves that eventually get covered by the buds as they grow and then do they hatch and start eating through the buds? because there are none on the leaves or on the stems just right near the small bud center on the small sugar leaves and eventually they seem were they are located that they will get covered up by the growing buds!!!! they are never on the stems or outside of the big fan leaves!!!!!!

Gahh I just killed two of them little green bastards on one of my plants. I happened to notice a couple leaves with holes chewed in them and a silky web all over it. I thought "SHIT MITES" but it wasn't shit mites, it was just a couple of these bugs who for chopped in half with my fiskars.

yes. use bug spray. i used "safer" when i had some bugs and it doesnt kill them, but a few days later they are gone. its safe to use, and you should. im sure its safer then bugs lol. either way, you can always spray with a lil water when your sure the bugs are all gone (turn off HID lamps til they dry)

Get a product with BT in it, there are many and Safers is just one. Dipel is another. Lowes, HD, or any garden shop. Organic and natural.

BT=Bacillus Thuringiensis A naturally occurring bacillus that only affects caterpillars. They ingest it, it locks up their gut and they die. Totally harmless to anything else.

I've used it for better than 30 years and have ingested a fair amount also. I like to eat tomatoes right off the vine and my tomato plants always have some applied for tomato hornworms.

You can do all that crazy shit, or just apply this stuff and let nature take its course.

Wet

i thought of doing this and bought some from Home Depot..but after realizing how deep the worms are in the bud..the foliars can't get that deep unless you dip it in it....seriously they are deep in the bud...they practically crawl along the stem under the bud...no foliar can get that deep just by spraying...

the worms will eventually come out of the bud but by then..they've done damage that can't be recovered.

trust me...i'm going through this as i speak...BT does work for regular catepillars no doubt but you can't get budworms this way until they come out of the bud..but if you wait till they come out the damage is already done.

just my 2 cents..

those white things are the eggs...trichogamma wasp kill these. you can order them from planetnatural.com for like$ 20 bucks but that won't keep moths from laying new eggs...get a mosquito net.

Wetdog said:

Get a product with BT in it, there are many and Safers is just one. Dipel is another. Lowes, HD, or any garden shop. Organic and natural.

BT=Bacillus Thuringiensis A naturally occurring bacillus that only affects caterpillars. They ingest it, it locks up their gut and they die. Totally harmless to anything else.

I've used it for better than 30 years and have ingested a fair amount also. I like to eat tomatoes right off the vine and my tomato plants always have some applied for tomato hornworms.

You can do all that crazy shit, or just apply this stuff and let nature take its course.

Wet

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One big Question? after you get the catepillars out or dead are the buds they leave behind useless? or can they be dried and smoked? are the buds harmful or deadly after they are dead or removed? cause if so these little bastards have ruined one whole plants worth of bud. Mostly in the top of the cola. like they had been planted there before the buds grew and then when they grew they engulfed the eggs and then they hatched way inside. Please let me know If you can if the buds are still good or should i cut them off the plant and get rid of them???? Thank You, BB2112!!!!! Thjank You for the help much appreciated!!!!!

dante76 said:

i thought of doing this and bought some from Home Depot..but after realizing how deep the worms are in the bud..the foliars can't get that deep unless you dip it in it....seriously they are deep in the bud...they practically crawl along the stem under the bud...no foliar can get that deep just by spraying...

the worms will eventually come out of the bud but by then..they've done damage that can't be recovered.

trust me...i'm going through this as i speak...BT does work for regular catepillars no doubt but you can't get budworms this way until they come out of the bud..but if you wait till they come out the damage is already done.

just my 2 cents..

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I just wanted to know if you get the catepillars out before too much damage can the buds still be used? I will use this stuff but can the buds be dried and smoked after you put that stuff on them ? I just wanted to know if i should be worried to use the buds after they have been cleaned out and that stuff is applied. Can you use what's left? I found them early because I saw the eggs. so i took an egg off and put it in a cup with newly cut leaves and it turned into a catepillar, so i looked on the plant everyday and started seeing little dried white hairs that were dry premature and I pulled backl the bud with a toothpick and saw the little bastards chewing there way through the inside of the buds. So the outside and most of the buds are still good if i got all the eggs out. But if they are still intact can they be dried and smoked after they are cleaned out and that stuff appleid or should I cut off the bud and disguard the buds that have been affected? Thank You, BB2112!!!!!!! appreciate all everyones help!!!!!!!!

some of the buds were ruined such as the one below...some are ok...just depends on the size of the catepillar/budworm. when they are small they are black...this green one grew quite a bit from the larvae stage. Some of mine were real small and had virtually no damage and maybe 5 tips of my colas were ruined but i would suggest that when you find a cola that has infestation, break it down immediately becuase there can be more than one in there. i had one cola that had 4 or 5 worms in it and it was still salvageable becuase they were still very small.

also from what i read before BT will break down in about a weeks time so if you spray it on the plant you won't have to worry about it affecting the flower after you dry/cure. some of my bud i just cleaned and snipped out the dead parts...just use your best judgement...if 1/2 of the bud (not the cola) is eaten, i would trash it.

having the same problem also when i stick a toothpick in the hole they dug little brown ovals are stuck to it.eggs or just pieces of dead bud?

not sure but whatever it is...get it out of there..i guarantee its not plant material.

i did more research and im pretty sure its budworm shit. not good.

yeah and if you ever seen these black little rocks thats catepillar shit...get that off as well. I use this for an indicator too to know if there's something in the vicinity.