HEY! HEY! HEY!

st0wandgrow said:

You're more likely to be convicted of a crime if you're poor, and can't afford a good defense. It's a socioeconomic thing more than it is a race thing.

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in places like louisiana and florida and elsewhere a white man has literally never gotten the death penalty for killing a black man. have all these white killers just been wealthy or something?

fdd2blk said:

Sheskunk was a troll that had an agenda. You, on the other hand, are simply a racist.

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you are a racist retard.

st0wandgrow said:

The only racial argument that I've heard that I think is relevant is that people like Bill Cosby (and OJ Simpson, and Michael Jackson, and Ray Lewis) kinda dispell the notion that the courts have a racial bias. You're not more likely to be convicted of a crime if you're black. You're more likely to be convicted of a crime if you're poor, and can't afford a good defense. It's a socioeconomic thing more than it is a race thing.

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There is this wealth thing in the mix too. You can't really say that any of the people you list couldn't afford a good lawyer.

The disparity you claim the Cosby trial dispels concerns several areas where an African American is likely to see differences in treatment including the fact that an African American is more likely to be charged than a white man given a similar offense. Also after the public defender capitulates, black men are more likely to be given a harsher sentence. The Cosby trial doesn't change these facts.

UncleBuck said:

in places like louisiana and florida and elsewhere a white man has literally never gotten the death penalty for killing a black man. have all these white killers just been wealthy or something?

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I'm not saying that there aren't racist judges and DA's, I'm just saying that our criminal justice system favors those with money, regardless of skin color. How else do you explain prominent black folks with money like OJ Simpson walking on a crime that he clearly commited? If you have money, you can buy your freedom.

Sentencing is a different issue. I don't doubt that African Americans on average see harsher sentencing than a white person would for the same crime.

st0wandgrow said:

I'm not saying that there aren't racist judges and DA's, I'm just saying that our criminal justice system favors those with money, regardless of skin color. How else do you explain prominent black folks with money like OJ Simpson walking on a crime that he clearly commited? If you have money, you can buy your freedom.

Sentencing is a different issue. I don't doubt that African Americans on average see harsher sentencing than a white person would for the same crime.

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I've seen statistics showing black men of any economic group are more likely to be stopped and arrested than white men. Sure, once in court a wealthy person stands better chances. However the offense of being stopped and risk of arrest of death by cop is higher for blacks regardless of income. The whole thing feeds into the statistics on black incarceration rates.

Fogdog said:

There is this wealth thing in the mix too. You can't really say that any of the people you list couldn't afford a good lawyer.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. All of the people I listed have money, and they all walked. Having money (and being famous) has more to do with wether or not you're found guilty of a crime than skin color does.

Now, if you take a white man without money and a black man without money and they both commit the same crime, you could make a good argument that the courts will favor the white man. But, the ability to hire a top shelf legal team trumps all else.

Fogdog said:

I've seen statistics showing black men of any economic group are more likely to be stopped and arrested than white men. Sure, once in court a wealthy person stands better chances. However the offense of being stopped and risk of arrest of death by cop is higher for blacks regardless of income. The whole thing feeds into the statistics on black incarceration rates.

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Agreed

Fogdog said:

I've seen statistics showing black men of any economic group are more likely to be stopped and arrested than white men. Sure, once in court a wealthy person stands better chances. However the offense of being stopped and risk of arrest of death by cop is higher for blacks regardless of income. The whole thing feeds into the statistics on black incarceration rates.

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Lets face it, they don't even bother arresting black guys anymore.

"Selling singles? Fuck you!" , blam blam blam.

fdd2blk said:

Sheskunk was a troll that had an agenda. You, on the other hand, are simply a racist.

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Fucking liar.

SneekyNinja said:

Lets face it, they don't even bother arresting black guys anymore.

"Selling singles? Fuck you!" , blam blam blam.

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Well you're not allowed to sell singles..sell them down the street like everyone else..don't be in the parking lot of the store you're stealing business from..

SneekyNinja said:

Lets face it, they don't even bother arresting black guys anymore.

"Selling singles? Fuck you!" , blam blam blam.

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That dude that got choked to death by a cop in NYC for selling cigarettes was about the most fucked up thing I've ever seen. All of the unsolved rapes and whatnot and these peckerwoods are killing a guy over selling smokes? smdh

st0wandgrow said:

I'm not saying that there aren't racist judges and DA's, I'm just saying that our criminal justice system favors those with money, regardless of skin color. How else do you explain prominent black folks with money like OJ Simpson walking on a crime that he clearly commited? If you have money, you can buy your freedom.

Sentencing is a different issue. I don't doubt that African Americans on average see harsher sentencing than a white person would for the same crime.

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It could've been Jason Simpson. The whole timeline fits him or OJ.

schuylaar said:

Fucking liar.

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Fucking racist.

the mods keep deleting it for some reason. i guess fds has some thin skin.

schuylaar said:

I think I see a pattern.

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In your racism? Finally. Now you can work on changing it.

schuylaar said:

Well you're not allowed to sell singles..sell them down the street like everyone else..don't be in the parking lot of the store you're stealing business from..

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So you think black people should be killed for selling singles if they're doing it in a store's parking lot...?

Wow, that's pretty fucked.

SneekyNinja said:

So you think black people should be killed for selling singles if they're doing it in a store's parking lot...?

Wow, that's pretty fucked.

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So that's your takeaway from my post?

Wow, that's pretty fucked.

Just another sick-o trying to cause problems here..you'll be gone soon enough.

schuylaar said:

So that's your takeaway from my post?

Wow, that's pretty fucked.

Just another sick-o trying to cause problems here..you'll be gone soon enough.

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God damn you're dumb.

fdd2blk said:

God damn you're dumb.

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...says the guy that got busted shipping pounds across state lines.