HIGHGRADE SEEDS... avoid

The reason my statement wasnt helpfull is because it wasnt meant to be "helpfull",its truth not helpfull.

And you joined a thread titled "Highgrade seeds avoid !!!" not somebody asking about highgrade.

Where was anybody asking about this seedbank,you caught the title,it fit your personal agenda & you joined the thread to bash,not to offer an opinion that somebody asked about.

I stand behind what i said 100%,the next seedbank thread will be exactly the same as this one only the company name will change.

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You don't Even know me. I have no personal agenda. I have ordered from a few different companies. this is the only one that I didn't get either a letter or my beans. He cashed my M.O. and said he didn't get it.

Like I said,
I was just posting my experiences with this guy...

Now you,
Instead of just posting you experiences with them, you act like you are the one who owns high grade so you know exactly how he runs his business. In truth, you have no idea if he pinches every 10th order to pump up the profit margin becaue you don't work at high grade.

and since yo like to lump people in catagories...

I think people like you (who defend a company or institution with limited knowledge of that company) are blithering idiots. Peter puffing retards who thinks that because they were treated fairly the company treats everyone fairly.

Do research on high grade. There are WAY WAY more negative posts about this company than any other.

I have a hard time finding that it is all a grand conspiracy over his great award winning genetics. Oh my bad. His shit has not won any cup or award of signifigance.

I wonder why no independent seed bank will carry his shit?

As I said before.... Get proven genetics from a proven company.

Peace and Love,
Celticman

Celticman said:

I wonder why no independent seed bank will carry his shit?

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because they don't farm out the seeds to anyone, DUH !

Farm out the seeds?
I am talking like Sensi Seeds or Dutch Passion or any of the established seeds banks sell thier seeds through retailers like Gypsy Nirvana, Dr. Chronic, Attitude Seed Bank, or one of the walk in places like The Onterio Seed Bank.

If you are gonna make seeds to make a livelyhood, why wouldn't you sell to a seedbank for redistribution?
Why wouldn't you enter Cannibus Cups for some real recognition?
Why, if they are super potent and super sized are they never covered in High Times, Skunked, or Weed World?

If half of what he claimed was true, he would have already taken the weed growing world by storm.
That's The truth.

Anyway,
For those that are hapy and satisfied with high grade, I am truely happy for you. May all your flowers bloom big.


But not all of us have had a good experience with High Grade. That's the truth.
To belittle us for posting our experiences is juvenile and petty.
I have been a member here since Jan 2007 and I post when I have some direct knowledge of the thread at hand.
I try not to insult people (unless they stand 100% behind the insults they hurled at me).

Seriously,
It seems some guys around here can't deal with a differing opinion without resorting to bashing the person.

How about just posting your experience and letting it speak for itself?

Seems like some people (read panhead here for example) like to insult and belittle the messenger.

Whatever. For being "old" you sure act like a 13 year old kid. Maybe that's cause your "slow"? Your words (meaning the old and slow)... Not mine.

Peace and Love,
Celticman

Celticman said:

Farm out the seeds?
I am talking like Sensi Seeds or Dutch Passion or any of the established seeds banks sell thier seeds through retailers like Gypsy Nirvana, Dr. Chronic, Attitude Seed Bank, or one of the walk in places like The Onterio Seed Bank.

If you are gonna make seeds to make a livelyhood, why wouldn't you sell to a seedbank for redistribution?
Why wouldn't you enter Cannibus Cups for some real recognition?
Why, if they are super potent and super sized are they never covered in High Times, Skunked, or Weed World?

If half of what he claimed was true, he would have already taken the weed growing world by storm.
That's The truth.

Anyway,
For those that are hapy and satisfied with high grade, I am truely happy for you. May all your flowers bloom big.


But not all of us have had a good experience with High Grade. That's the truth.
To belittle us for posting our experiences is juvenile and petty.
I have been a member here since Jan 2007 and I post when I have some direct knowledge of the thread at hand.
I try not to insult people (unless they stand 100% behind the insults they hurled at me).

Seriously,
It seems some guys around here can't deal with a differing opinion without resorting to bashing the person.

How about just posting your experience and letting it speak for itself?

Seems like some people (read panhead here for example) like to insult and belittle the messenger.

Whatever. For being "old" you sure act like a 13 year old kid. Maybe that's cause your "slow"? Your words (meaning the old and slow)... Not mine.

Peace and Love,
Celticman

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you are asking people not to bash as you bash. talking about him not being carried by major corps or winning cups is bashing. yet you ask us not to bash. funny stuff.

you realize the "cups" are all rigged? it's about the money. talk about scamming consumers.


my black queen are 3 nodes tall.

Celticman said:

If you are gonna make seeds to make a livelyhood, why wouldn't you sell to a seedbank for redistribution?

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uh extra profit, quality control, pride/ego gratification.
I'll check with you in a about an hour after you've finally composed another 500 word rant ( sorry about that only getting a lump of coal in your stocking but find somewhere else to dissipate your rage for a while),

you are asking people not to bash as you bash. talking about him not being carried by major corps or winning cups is bashing. yet you ask us not to bash. funny stuff.
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We are talking about a seed company. I am talking about why I think it is a bad company. That is the thread at hand. Now to go offtopic and attack the messenger just tells of the weakness of your arguement.

We were debating the company- so yes there is gonna be stuff said good and bad.

There is a difference between saying something like " High grade doesn't enter cups" and saying everyone who complains about a bank is a crybaby.

All I was doing is stating truths to back up my arguement.

Anyway,
For those that are hapy and satisfied with high grade, I am truely happy for you. May all your flowers bloom big.

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Wow frmrboi,
If the above is me disapating my rage.... well everyone better look out! next thing you know I may be doing drive by smiles and giggles!

Silly rabbit, I am full of only peace and love.

Celticman

Celticman said:

you are asking people not to bash as you bash. talking about him not being carried by major corps or winning cups is bashing. yet you ask us not to bash. funny stuff.
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We are talking about a seed company. I am talking about why I think it is a bad company. That is the thread at hand. Now to go offtopic and attack the messenger just tells of the weakness of your arguement.

We were debating the company- so yes there is gonna be stuff said good and bad.

There is a difference between saying something like " High grade doesn't enter cups" and saying everyone who complains about a bank is a crybaby.

All I was doing is stating truths to back up my arguement.

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whatever. i was NEVER here to argue.

i'm just here to grow pot.

Celticman said:

You don't Even know me. I have no personal agenda. I have ordered from a few different companies. this is the only one that I didn't get either a letter or my beans. He cashed my M.O. and said he didn't get it.

Like I said,
I was just posting my experiences with this guy...

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No personal agenda ? are you kidding me or what,you had a transaction with this seedbank that was unsatisfactory to you & you say you have no agenda,ok there bud.

Now your posting experiences,in an earlier part of the post you said you were responding to a question asked about high grade seeds,again you saw the thread title & thats why you joined the thread,nowhere in this thread is there anybody asking for opinions,the thread was started by a moron,then the thread title caught your eye & since your pissed cause your transaction went south you figured it was a good time to vent,simple as that.

I sell online in large volumes,every day i look in my mail box i have hundreds of emails from impatient people who hit the buy it now button without reading my faq,then they shoot off emails demanding i answer questions clearly denoted in my faq,then they shoot off more emails daily asking when their order is going to get to them,blame me when fedex smashes their package with an anvil,they all count sat & sun as business days,not one person allows time for their personal check to clear,no time allowed for money orders to clear,not one clue where to get an international money order or even enough sense to know the difference,and my personal favorite is fukin paypal,moron children think cause they paid with paypal their order is supposed to get to them in 3 days.

Accidents happen when your dealing with large volumes,i get money orders every day of the week,sometimes 30 money orders a day,then 30 to 50 paypal transactions a day & all of them not one nitwit buyer includes the right information to cross reference payment against their order,something that is clearly spelled out in my faq page but nobody reads the faqs,it dosent matter that they have not followed the rules outlined in my auctions im at fault & they all kick scream & cry foul,then they all say the same thing,your a business man deal with it.

I say bullshit,act like an asshole & you go to the back of the line,no matter when you paid.

Its easy for me to understand how & why shit gets fuked up with seed bank buyers,most are children or very young people,most are impatient & demanding & dont understand that they are sending money orders overseas & think a store bought money order is an international money order.

If any of the whiny people ever stopped to think of the nightmarish mess these seed banks & distributers go through on a daily basis you might have a better understanding of how to deal with them,all of their customers are stoners,atleast 50% of their customers are children who have no experience buying anything & are using rite aid drug store credit cards,or shooting off money orders from mom's house,then freaking out waiting at the mail box daily so mom's dont find the seeds,put yourself in the shoe's of a business man who has to wade through that mess daily,then on top of all that deal with customs bullshit.

And so ya know at no time is customs in any way obligated to send you or anybody else a letter of confiscation or seizure,or even a refusal of entry to the country,its a courtesy service they provide & not to everybody.

Ive ordered from 4 different seedbanks & in every case i ordered after joining one of these seedbank witch hunt threads,in every case ive gotten my seeds,even when nirvana was the bad guy & when dr cronic was the bad guy my seeds came,and if you read this thread from the start you'd see i got my seeds from them as well.

fdd2blk, apparently u dont visit other forums very often or u would know theres alot of unhappy people where high grade is concerned! I think u should send them 1000.00 and see if u git any seeds! u have that kind of confidence in them surprise me and make an large order, so I can have a good laugh when u git burnt!bet u dont make an order mouth!!

bud2befree said:

fdd2blk, apparently u dont visit other forums very often or u would know theres alot of unhappy people where high grade is concerned! I think u should send them 1000.00 and see if u git any seeds! u have that kind of confidence in them surprise me and make an large order, so I can have a good laugh when u git burnt!bet u dont make an order mouth!!

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click the "seed and strain reviews" icon on this header. today there is a thread like this about every seed bank. there is one on nirvana and one on attitude right now. check "new posts".


who would spend that kind of money on a risk? you know you can make your own beans? i think it's silly to go to seed banks in the first place. i know anybody who has ever bought a bag has a seed or two laying around.

all but 1 or 2 of these were either traded or made by me. why can't everyone do this?






this is some bagseed i grew out ..........

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/145653-nirvana-update.html

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/145144-attitude-seed-bank-warning-dont.html

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/145380-help-ordered-seeds-but-no.html


someone wills always have bad things to say.

Hey-
I was only stating my experience guys, apologies to all offended.

If at all possible I would just drive to Canada and shop in person.

Peace and Love,
Celticman

fdd2blk said:

click the "seed and strain reviews" icon on this header. today there is a thread like this about every seed bank. there is one on nirvana and one on attitude right now. check "new posts".


who would spend that kind of money on a risk? you know you can make your own beans? i think it's silly to go to seed banks in the first place. i know anybody who has ever bought a bag has a seed or two laying around.

all but 1 or 2 of these were either traded or made by me. why can't everyone do this?

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this is some bagseed i grew out .......... View attachment 281777

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There are many reasons people buy seeds instead of making their own. First off, they would like to know what they are growing, and since many dealers just call a bud whatever they want, this is not easy if you are buying on the street. You could get a 90day flowering pheno and a 50day flowering pheno in the same bag of buds. People would rather their plants be more consistent.

Another reason, many people don't want to deal with males and worry about pollinating an entire crop.

Also, lets say you wanted to make a hybrid strain that a seed company is selling. Lets just say its White Widow and Blueberry. You take your White Widow and your Blueberry and cross them, but your cross turned out like crap. Yet the breeder's version is freaking awesome. The reason for this is the breeders are running hundreds, if not thousands of plants to pick out their keepers. I can just about guarantee you that you are not doing a run this big to find the keepers.

There are many reasons to buy seeds. But once you have purchased your seeds, there is no reason to purchase the same strain again because you can just clone it and keep it around, or if you are willing, you can breed your own seeds. But you have to remember those seeds you made are probably not going to be as consistent as the breeder seeds.

bongrippinbob said:

There are many reasons people buy seeds instead of making their own. First off, they would like to know what they are growing, and since many dealers just call a bud whatever they want, this is not easy if you are buying on the street. You could get a 90day flowering pheno and a 50day flowering pheno in the same bag of buds. People would rather their plants be more consistent.

Another reason, many people don't want to deal with males and worry about pollinating an entire crop.

Also, lets say you wanted to make a hybrid strain that a seed company is selling. Lets just say its White Widow and Blueberry. You take your White Widow and your Blueberry and cross them, but your cross turned out like crap. Yet the breeder's version is freaking awesome. The reason for this is the breeders are running hundreds, if not thousands of plants to pick out their keepers. I can just about guarantee you that you are not doing a run this big to find the keepers.

There are many reasons to buy seeds. But once you have purchased your seeds, there is no reason to purchase the same strain again because you can just clone it and keep it around, or if you are willing, you can breed your own seeds. But you have to remember those seeds you made are probably not going to be as consistent as the breeder seeds.

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pffffssssttt.

I ordered from them on 3 seperate occasions and always recieved my order, and his strains are very sweet to smoke

LoudBlunts said:

i think you all are forgetting the golden rule in business....or the two golden rules; the customer is ALWAYS right, regardless

2....never cuss, disrespect a customer...

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That is true, but there is only so much disrespect any person can take. It seemed to me also that hotboy's only agenda was to stir shit up and then collect ammo. He was never gonna purchase any seeds, and to tell you the truth I think he works for a competitors seed bank. I mean seriously if I don't trust a company I would just move on to one I did trust and call it a day. Attacking a company that you have never done business with is just retarded. If I owned a store that you never did business with and don't know anything about and some sniveling fucking bitch comes in and starts throwing around accusations and threats that bitch is leaving in a gurney. I am sorry I just don't like disrespectful assholes. Treat people with respect and it will be returned. I do not work for HIGHGRADE or do I.