House Votes to Overturn CFPB Mandatory Arbitration Ban

ttystikk

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Yet another lame ass naked capital post, don't mind me...

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/07/house-votes-overturn-cfpb-mandatory-arbitration-ban.html#comment-2849803

So this puts the last nail in the coffin of consumer protection from arbitration agreements when dealing with banks, which effectively means that banks can't be sued. Gosh, that's because they're all sooooooo honest, right?

Criminogenic regulatory environment is a long winded term for 'we bribed the government to be above the law'.
 

ttystikk

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Text of the article;

As expected, the House of Representatives voted yesterday to overturn the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s (CFPB) ban on mandatory arbitration, the Arbitration Agreements Rule.

The House relied on the Congressional Review Act (CRA), which provides expedited procedures for passing legislation rescinding any regulation that was finalized in the preceding 60 session days, by simple majority votes in each chamber. There is no need for prior committee consideration by either house, and the measure is exempt from a possible Senate filibuster. Once the CRA resolution of disapproval is signed by the President, the rule is rescinded.

Short-Lived Final Arbitration Agreements Rule

As the agency explained in its press release announcing the rule on July 10:

Many consumer financial products like credit cards and bank accounts have arbitration clauses in their contracts that prevent consumers from joining together to sue their bank or financial company for wrongdoing. By forcing consumers to give up or go it alone – usually over small amounts – companies can sidestep the court system, avoid big refunds, and continue harmful practices. The CFPB’s new rule will deter wrongdoing by restoring consumers’ right to join together to pursue justice and relief through group lawsuits.

I refer readers to Bill Black’s excellent post, Bill Black: The CFPB Arbitration Rule is Pro (Honest) Businesses, discussing the criminogenic environment that led the agency to promulgate this rule in the first instance and outlining why it was desperately needed.

My August post, Business Groups Aim to Strong-Arm CFPB on Arbitration, provides further detail on this issue, particularly on the importance of the admittedly imperfect mechanism of class action lawsuits to deter corporate misbehavior in the absence of effective action by regulators and prosecutors.

The Senate is now expected to vote on overturning the arbitration rule in September– according to this WSJ article, House Votes to Repeal CFPB’s Arbitration Rule. Given the financial and corporate lobbying firepower that’s been deployed on this issue, that body will almost certainly vote to overturn the rule, over the strenuous objections of consumer advocates, as reported by US News and World Report in Republicans Move to Repeal Financial Rule Opposed by Banks:

“Unfair clauses hidden in the fine print of consumer contracts may be the single most pernicious tactic that the financial industry uses to escape accountability for cheating, conning, fleecing, defrauding and plundering consumers,” said Lisa Gilbert, a vice president at Public Citizen.

The White House has already made its position on the matter clear, issuing a statement saying it “strongly supports” the House bill that would nullify the rule:

If allowed to take effect, the CFPB’s harmful rule would benefit trial lawyers by increasing frivolous class-action lawsuits; harm consumers by denying them the full benefits and efficiencies of arbitration; and hurt financial institutions by increasing litigation expenses and compliance costs (particularly for community and mid-sized institutions). In many cases, these increased costs would be borne, not by the financial institutions, but by their consumers.

That means that once the full CRA process is complete– the new rule will be dead.

And, to make matters even worse for consumers, as regular readers who have been following my earlier CRA coverage know and I wrote in Trump and Congress Use Congressional Review Act to Roll Back 14 ‘Midnight’ Rules; More to Follow?:

Crucially and importantly, once the regulation has been successfully voided, the regulatory agency is barred from reviving the rule in “substantially the same form”– forever–in the absence of new legislative authority.

To repeat: This means the CFPB will not be able to reconsider this issue anytime soon, and indeed, further legislation would be necessary to authorize any future rulemaking.

Long Gestation: Why Did Cordray Wait So Long to Issue the Rule?

This leads me to a fairly obvious question: Why did CFPB director Richard Cordray wait so long for the agency to issue the rule banning mandatory arbitration? By deferring this decision until well into the Trump administration, the agency was setting itself up for this entirely predictable and inevitable CRA challenge.

Now, permit me a short aside. Although Cordray has yet to announce any formal intentions in this regard, he is widely expected soon to leave the CFPB to return to his home state of Ohio to run for governor– according to this Housing Wire piece, CFPB Director Cordray will run for Ohio governor, says state Supreme Court justice.

Issuing the rule earlier this month is one way of further shoring up his consumer protection bona fides– even though he certainly understood full well that Congressional Republicans and Trump would almost inevitably use the CRA to scupper one of his agency’s signature achievements. But the pending gubernatorial run merely explains why the rule was ultimately promulgated– and doesn’t address the reasons for the delay.

On that issue: I have never really understood why Cordray didn’t push for the agency to issue the rule far earlier than it did. After all, way back in December 2013 the CFPB released a preliminary but comprehensive study on the use of mandatory arbitration clauses. Reigning in mandatory arbitration– in the wake of Supreme Court decisions that allowed the practice to continue and spread– has long been a major consumer protection priority.

So, I repeat, why did the process take so long?

My guess is that Cordray and the agency were probably concerned about a court challenge and a possible overturn of the rule– not an idle concern, incidentally, and an issue that I discussed in my post cited above, Business Groups Aim to Strong-Arm CFPB on Arbitration). Business organizations such as the US Chamber of Commerce have effectively thwarted rule-making by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Environmental Protection Agency on certain issues, to name just a couple of examples, by aggressively filing lawsuits.

But hiding under the bed and failing to issue a mandatory arbitration rule wasn’t going to make that lawsuit goblin go away. So I fail to see what purpose was served by the delay.

And unfortunately, in attempting to sidestep one goblin, the agency left itself open to attack by the CRA goblin, when, after the election, the Republicans retained control of both houses of Congress and Trump was installed in the White House.

What Next?: The Bottom Line

As I discussed in my earlier post, Mandatory Arbitration Clauses: What’s Next?, this is an area in which action by consumer-friendly state regulators– such as California, which has mulled its own anti-arbitration regime– won’t be able get around the Federal Arbitration Act (FAA) , which preempts any state measures and makes arbitration agreements “valid, irrevocable, and enforceable.” The Supreme Court has ruled against states creating categorical exemptions to the FAA absent Congressional authorization.

That means once the CRA process is completed, mandatory arbitration will be here to stay– for the indefinite future. Only new authorizing legislation– followed by subsequent rule-making by the CFPB or another federal agency– or the equivalently remote alternative of a major change in Supreme Court thinking on this issue, can reverse this situation. And– at the risk of stating the obvious– neither of these possibilities looks likely to occur anytime soon.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Unpacking this a bit;

First, go to the site and read the comments, lots of good additional information, background, etc.

The American consumer is being systematically sold out, by BOTH parties.

Why did the head of the CFPB wait until there was zero chance of Congress allowing this bill to stand? He's running for governor of Ohio- as a Democrat. Now he can say he fought the good fight and implemented consumer protection legislation the evil Republicans blocked. Of course he knew that they would invoke the CRA, that's the Congressional Review Act, which not only allows them to reverse any legislation within 60 session days of passage but also- importantly- as a further prohibition that the affected legislation can NEVER be passed again without specific Congressional approval.

In this way, he can go to the donors and the big banks and ask for campaign contributions, and be able to tell them he did it so that they'd never have to worry about their arbitration clause again.

Same shit as voting against Citizens United when they didn't have the majority. Same shit as killing the California Universal Healthcare bill in committee so the Governor wouldn't be stuck with having to refuse to sign it in public.

Y'all wonder why I don't like, trust or respect the Democratic Party, it's because this kind of behavior has become their stock in trade; they can 'appear' to be fighting for consumers and average Americans, while really handing the cookie jar over to their donors.

I'm going to take a bunch of heat from the Democratic shills here but I don't care; this is the bold faced, black and white truth of how both sides of our government have been selling We the People down the river for so long that everyone involved has come to expect it. After all, what are all those campaign finance 'donations' buying, if not the right to get their way?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
Why would I read anything you have to post ever again? It's all either copy and paste spam or insults directed at anyone who doesn't swallow your bullshit.
No one can force you not to be stupid; it's your right as a 'Murrican!'
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Unpacking this a bit;

First, go to the site and read the comments, lots of good additional information, background, etc.

The American consumer is being systematically sold out, by BOTH parties.

Why did the head of the CFPB wait until there was zero chance of Congress allowing this bill to stand? He's running for governor of Ohio- as a Democrat. Now he can say he fought the good fight and implemented consumer protection legislation the evil Republicans blocked. Of course he knew that they would invoke the CRA, that's the Congressional Review Act, which not only allows them to reverse any legislation within 60 session days of passage but also- importantly- as a further prohibition that the affected legislation can NEVER be passed again without specific Congressional approval.

In this way, he can go to the donors and the big banks and ask for campaign contributions, and be able to tell them he did it so that they'd never have to worry about their arbitration clause again.

Same shit as voting against Citizens United when they didn't have the majority. Same shit as killing the California Universal Healthcare bill in committee so the Governor wouldn't be stuck with having to refuse to sign it in public.

Y'all wonder why I don't like, trust or respect the Democratic Party, it's because this kind of behavior has become their stock in trade; they can 'appear' to be fighting for consumers and average Americans, while really handing the cookie jar over to their donors.

I'm going to take a bunch of heat from the Democratic shills here but I don't care; this is the bold faced, black and white truth of how both sides of our government have been selling We the People down the river for so long that everyone involved has come to expect it. After all, what are all those campaign finance 'donations' buying, if not the right to get their way?
uhhh, yeah. Republicans pass this by dint of their majority status and you piss on Democrats.

"It's all fucked up. No solution other than the one I choose. Because nobody but a Bernocrat* can choose correctly"
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

Typical cynic. But skeptic is hard. Cynical just means nobody can be trusted. Except Bernie. BBBBut Bernie didn't stop this either. Democrats are to blame for the Supreme Court being stacked by right wingers too.

Cynicism vs Skepticism

Some people think that these two concepts are the same, but they do have some important differences. This article will give you definitions of the words, explanations of the concepts, and reasons why and how they are different.

Cynicism, The definition, according to the Merriam Webster, is “cynical beliefs” or “beliefs that people are generally selfish and dishonest.”

Skepticism, Merriam Webster defines skepticism as “an attitude of doubting the truth of something (such as a claim or statement).”

Skeptics often look for solutions and cynics are much more black and white, focusing on what is not correct. If a cynic and a skeptic are looking at the same problem, they might react in the following ways:

The cynic might say, “Both X and Y are incorrect. We are doing this all wrong.” The cynic immediately takes a negative view of the problem and will not believe evidence that says the problem can be solved.
The skeptic might say, “Let’s look at X and Y again. Can we make one of them work? Maybe Z will work better?” The skeptic must see evidence that one thing works before he or she believes it is the best solution.

In a very basic sense, skepticism challenges views and questions if assumptions are correct or not. Cynicism focuses on the negative parts of a problem. It is good to be a little bit skeptical. It is not good to be cynical. Skeptical people want to have evidence of something before they will believe it is true. Cynical people do not trust any information that they do not personally agree with.

Read more: Difference Between Cynicism and Skepticism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/language/words-language/difference-between-cynicism-and-skepticism/#ixzz4nyCzBLFW
 

SSHZ

Well-Known Member
You can be sure if the Obama administration passed it, it was bad for business and the U.S. economy. Slowly but surely, the Obama house of cards comes collapsing down.
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
uhhh, yeah. Republicans pass this by dint of their majority status and you piss on Democrats.

"It's all fucked up. No solution other than the one I choose. Because nobody but a Bernocrat* can choose correctly"
*sponsored by the Freedom Partners Action Fund

Typical cynic. But skeptic is hard. Cynical just means nobody can be trusted. Except Bernie. BBBBut Bernie didn't stop this either. Democrats are to blame for the Supreme Court being stacked by right wingers too.

Cynicism vs Skepticism

Some people think that these two concepts are the same, but they do have some important differences. This article will give you definitions of the words, explanations of the concepts, and reasons why and how they are different.


Cynicism, The definition, according to the Merriam Webster, is “cynical beliefs” or “beliefs that people are generally selfish and dishonest.”

Skepticism, Merriam Webster defines skepticism as “an attitude of doubting the truth of something (such as a claim or statement).”

Skeptics often look for solutions and cynics are much more black and white, focusing on what is not correct. If a cynic and a skeptic are looking at the same problem, they might react in the following ways:

The cynic might say, “Both X and Y are incorrect. We are doing this all wrong.” The cynic immediately takes a negative view of the problem and will not believe evidence that says the problem can be solved.
The skeptic might say, “Let’s look at X and Y again. Can we make one of them work? Maybe Z will work better?” The skeptic must see evidence that one thing works before he or she believes it is the best solution.

In a very basic sense, skepticism challenges views and questions if assumptions are correct or not. Cynicism focuses on the negative parts of a problem. It is good to be a little bit skeptical. It is not good to be cynical. Skeptical people want to have evidence of something before they will believe it is true. Cynical people do not trust any information that they do not personally agree with.

Read more: Difference Between Cynicism and Skepticism | Difference Between http://www.differencebetween.net/language/words-language/difference-between-cynicism-and-skepticism/#ixzz4nyCzBLFW
He could have put this up during the Obama administration, and Mr Obama could have vetoed the Congressional CRA. Why didn't he?

You have your opinion, I have mine. Frankly, mine fits the facts better than yours.

When are you going to wake up and realize the Democratic Party is simply not interested in your rights?
 
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