how to grow mushrooms the easy way
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canndo
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You are right,I don't do much experimentation.
Others have already done the experimentation and written teks. I follow proven teks.
I don't post teks because they are already ALL over the internet, I don't find much use in just saying the same things that are already out there.
I don't know why you insist on beating this light\pinning thing like a dead horse.
If light was a major pin trigger, then myc would go invitro in jars that are exposed to light, also, some people use solid colored totes that get no light and they pull off fat flushs just fine.
Lets just agree to disagree
Canndo. I had already cased with coir on top. But then when the jar cracked It's weird it barely even hit hard. But it was the angle I bumped it I guess But anyways. It cracked and the jar wasn't safe for me of the Mycellium so figured what the hell. I carefully took it out. Rinsed glass shards off good and then rolled in Verm. The coir is still on top too. Is it better to roll them in Coir than Verm. I could still roll that one in a light coir casing if it will make a big difference.
And about the patients. Yeah I've been practicing to have more too but this actually I was just worried about cus the color of Mycellium changed after I misted them. And then hyphae knot looking things were growing around the sides. But then stopped. Now those big balls of fresh mycellium start popping out so was wondering what was going on with them
And as far as the bashing on noobs. I'm not your usually noob. I've been around growing before and have helped a bit. But this was my first attempt and I've learned agar already and been practicing a month or so now everyday. But mainly why I said that is Another site I go on. Every time I ask there it's like they are just bashing on me for two reason. I ask questions. They complain about the method I did something without asking why I did it that way. And still don't answer the question Like wtf Lol. Then I started explaining what my project was and then it's too long and they yell cus I should keep it simple organized and short. Lol So no matter what I do or post I either get criticized or ignored Never any support and help really anymore. Now there are a few that have really helped me out a lot
And about the patients. Yeah I've been practicing to have more too but this actually I was just worried about cus the color of Mycellium changed after I misted them. And then hyphae knot looking things were growing around the sides. But then stopped. Now those big balls of fresh mycellium start popping out so was wondering what was going on with them
And as far as the bashing on noobs. I'm not your usually noob. I've been around growing before and have helped a bit. But this was my first attempt and I've learned agar already and been practicing a month or so now everyday. But mainly why I said that is Another site I go on. Every time I ask there it's like they are just bashing on me for two reason. I ask questions. They complain about the method I did something without asking why I did it that way. And still don't answer the question Like wtf Lol. Then I started explaining what my project was and then it's too long and they yell cus I should keep it simple organized and short. Lol So no matter what I do or post I either get criticized or ignored Never any support and help really anymore. Now there are a few that have really helped me out a lot
canndo
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Light will trigger in a tiny bit of time, this is why people mistake triggers, because when you look at it, you triggered it.
All that stuff on the internet you are talking about is mostly speculation and simple observation and not scientific tests.
You can't explain evaporation as a trigger.
That shroom guy
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And again you grow oysters bro why you here on a weed site telling ppl how to grow shit you never even grew before how about tap some logs and hang some saw dust and leave the cubes, pan and cyans to the people that actually grow them I have been a member for like a week now and all you do on here so far that I have seen is put your info in on something you really can't even begin to speak on considering you really have no experience in that field. Do you grow marijuana? Is that why you're on this site? Are you just here to give information to people who are trying to grow magic mushrooms that don't really need to know. Now I'm sure you know what you're doing im sure you've had plenty successful grows. But I think until somebody talks about saw dust or white button mushrooms you should hold your tongue. And don't take this to offense I'm just being honest and if you have a great Tech on how to grow Portobellos with just buying one from a store I would love to know. Thank you. Have a good day.
canndo
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Why do you presume I have never grown cubes?
If you read my posts you will find that I graduated from cubensis to other mushrooms.
Now why are the two of you bringing this to this particular site?
Idk what's goin on there. Lol. I just wanted to post another pic and see if these are still looking ok to you guys. And that they look like there still going to fruit ?
I am patiently waiting but my health problems aren't. Lol. My nerves have been bad and just getting worse lately to where I can't work barely. Just really need these things to fruit.
I know ya can't rush things. They will fruit when they want to Lol.
I just want to know that they are doing ok and headed in the right direction.
I am patiently waiting but my health problems aren't. Lol. My nerves have been bad and just getting worse lately to where I can't work barely. Just really need these things to fruit.
I know ya can't rush things. They will fruit when they want to Lol.
I just want to know that they are doing ok and headed in the right direction.
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canndo
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Looks like a pin or two on the right, can't be sure. I see nothing wrong with your cakes. We're I you, I would take one cake and roll it deeply in saturated coarse coir. Just to give yourself some variety. I don't know much about the method you are now employing but giving it some microclimate and a place to purchase might help.
If the mycelium is dicharyotic (it is serially complete), and is capable of fruiting, and the conditions are not such that you are killing the organism, it will bear fruit. Eventually. I can't see where your cakes are unhealthy. It looks like you are keeping them in good shape. Patience should be all hat is required.
Now, our conversations went to evaporation and perhaps misting. I can't say I would mist fully colonized cakes but what the hell, give one a bit of fine mist.
These are WBS/VERM mix. It's actually the only thing I can get to colonize so I'm moving to
semi-bulk with my next jar.
Misting caused me problems so I don't mist now The climate is plenty humid enough I beleive. And yeah I think patience is key here now and just waiting. There are a few Mycellium balls that have the shape of a mushroom but I think it's just the shape it formed. I haven't seen any "pinning" but it's starting to form these balls of Mycellium and then some smaller ones that look like hyphae knots. Little white "Nerds" So I'm thinking I should see them starting soon now.
What worried me is the two cakes on the outside formed hyphae knots and then died off it seemed. Then it started growing new fresh Mycellium balls. Like little or medium size cotton balls. Then I noticed they started kind of like dieing off. So I took them out yesterday and Dunked them for a few hours and rolled in Coir and Verm Mix It was easier to keep the Coir stuck to the cake with a little Verm mixed in
semi-bulk with my next jar.
Misting caused me problems so I don't mist now The climate is plenty humid enough I beleive. And yeah I think patience is key here now and just waiting. There are a few Mycellium balls that have the shape of a mushroom but I think it's just the shape it formed. I haven't seen any "pinning" but it's starting to form these balls of Mycellium and then some smaller ones that look like hyphae knots. Little white "Nerds" So I'm thinking I should see them starting soon now.
What worried me is the two cakes on the outside formed hyphae knots and then died off it seemed. Then it started growing new fresh Mycellium balls. Like little or medium size cotton balls. Then I noticed they started kind of like dieing off. So I took them out yesterday and Dunked them for a few hours and rolled in Coir and Verm Mix It was easier to keep the Coir stuck to the cake with a little Verm mixed in
DankTankerous
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Man this is making mushroom growing a lot more complicated or dare I say harder than I thought.
It's not that hard. It's more tedious cus of having to keep clean and sterile. But it is relatively easy. The learning part can be hard for some cus they fail and want to give up. You can't cus everyone fails a few times. Don't give up on trying it cus of others having trouble. You may do very well and get it your first time
canndo
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OK, you seem to understand hyphal knots. They are quite small and not like the large tufts we can see in the picture.
A failure at the k of stage in this species is rare (rare that they all fail). But I have to tell you that altering conditions at that stage or the pin stage is the worst thing you can do
These were spores you started with so we don't know if you are even working with the same
We could easily look at this entire roll it up site about the growing, curing and smoking of a plant as making it seem complicated.
To a novice, it could certainly seem that way, disease, light cycles, fertilizing, vegetative growth Vs flowering, water cure Vs air, soil Vs hydroponics, leaving your mature plants in the dark before harvest.... The opinions, disputes, superstition, studies, facts and myth would, to a novice, seem pretty daunting.
But the elements are simple, seed+soil+light+water+time = nice buzz.
OK, you seem to understand hyphal knots. They are quite small and not like the large tufts we can see in the picture.
No hyphae knots then yet. There are some smaller ones too but probaly same thing as the big ones. Just Mycellium growing I just wish I knew wether I was doing things wrong or not. No way to know until it pins and if it pins?
A failure at the k of stage in this species is rare (rare that they all fail).
Ok so it's ok then and just waiting game
And
At the K of stage. What do you Mean by that
And I won't alter anything now.
But let me ask about fanning or not fanning. Since I have One tub with 1/4 holes every 2in and then 2" of perlite. Then at the top of perlite there at 1.5inch holes at each end of the tub. Then a little higher at the top of cakes there are two 1" holes on each side of the tub. The another 6qt tub on top upside down taped onto it
Do you think I should fan still? Or do you think i should let it be, enlarge holes? Anything to help. Or just let it be?
I do have the holes stuffed so bugs cants get in. We had some knats recently so I made sure the holes were stuff light enough for air flow but enough they couldn't get thru them.
These were spores you started with so we don't know if you are even working with the same
What do you mean by this? Yes j started with SPORES. All cubensis. F+. Cambodian and matias Romero. I mixed them up so I have no clue which ones these are now. But there are all cubes so should grow fine at this stage. Just wondering why no pins yet.
No hyphae knots then yet. There are some smaller ones too but probaly same thing as the big ones. Just Mycellium growing I just wish I knew wether I was doing things wrong or not. No way to know until it pins and if it pins?
A failure at the k of stage in this species is rare (rare that they all fail).
Ok so it's ok then and just waiting game
And
At the K of stage. What do you Mean by that
And I won't alter anything now.
But let me ask about fanning or not fanning. Since I have One tub with 1/4 holes every 2in and then 2" of perlite. Then at the top of perlite there at 1.5inch holes at each end of the tub. Then a little higher at the top of cakes there are two 1" holes on each side of the tub. The another 6qt tub on top upside down taped onto it
Do you think I should fan still? Or do you think i should let it be, enlarge holes? Anything to help. Or just let it be?
I do have the holes stuffed so bugs cants get in. We had some knats recently so I made sure the holes were stuff light enough for air flow but enough they couldn't get thru them.
These were spores you started with so we don't know if you are even working with the same
What do you mean by this? Yes j started with SPORES. All cubensis. F+. Cambodian and matias Romero. I mixed them up so I have no clue which ones these are now. But there are all cubes so should grow fine at this stage. Just wondering why no pins yet.
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Get you some b+ or golden teachers they are great for beginners because they have higher resistance to mold and grow a lot faster and some golden teachers have been known to be 32 grams at about 7 inches tall. But I don't know I'd say that one on the right looks kind of bad men but I can't tell it might be just the picture have you been touching them because the right one looks like it's either not getting enough oxygen it's molding or you've been touching it too much moving it around etcetera
The ones in the end were too dry. I re dunked and re cased and they are doing much better now The middle one idk. It grew those big puffs of Myc and now they are turning tannish I really don't think it's Contams at all. No signs of any yet. Just seems to be FAE or something. I was fanning and I think that was a problem cus my set up is doing its job so j think it was too much drying it out and lowering the humidity to much. Idk. I'm lost. And really just need these to fruit something. I don't need much right now.
Ok. And yeah I am not going to even open it now cus I have a feeling my humidity level drops way down when I open it briefly and takes while to build humidity back up inside cus of the smaller DUBTUB style Idk but I need to get a electronic gauge so I can see what humidity is
I want to know what mistakes I'm makin so I can correct them the next grows
I have a monotub going now for mini bulk. It I beleive is a 14qt tub. I put 1.5in of coir and horse poo then a big jar of spawn. The another inch of coir and horse poo mix. It's half colonized now it looks like. Atleast on top it is. Idk if underneith is as much cus I haven't moved it to look much. But they way it's going it may be colonized and start pinning before those cakes do. Lol. No I doubt that but I've seen pics of tubs fruiting before fully colonized. I'm not that lucky tho. I
I have an awesome isolate tho that has started fruiting on the Petri dish. And I tell ya what. There is a TON of Pins for this small little And it's not even really an isolation. I only took a wedge from a MS agar dish. Isolated it into this dish and this is what happened. It's fruiting now in the agar dish. And one of the is a small mushy almost Figured it will be a nice clone to use for a fast fruiting And looks like a decent yeild going by how many it's popping up and most are starting to fruit. By looking at those three things. If say that's a good canidate right. Fast fruiting. Decent yeild for a Petri dish. And for Petri dish they are getting bigger then I thought they would. Of course they still tiny ass little mushies. Lol. But I'm doing that part right it seems. I got the AGAR down I think. Now I just need more agar. Lol. I have a lot more isolation a to do and I want to keep that one going too
I want to know what mistakes I'm makin so I can correct them the next grows
I have a monotub going now for mini bulk. It I beleive is a 14qt tub. I put 1.5in of coir and horse poo then a big jar of spawn. The another inch of coir and horse poo mix. It's half colonized now it looks like. Atleast on top it is. Idk if underneith is as much cus I haven't moved it to look much. But they way it's going it may be colonized and start pinning before those cakes do. Lol. No I doubt that but I've seen pics of tubs fruiting before fully colonized. I'm not that lucky tho. I
I have an awesome isolate tho that has started fruiting on the Petri dish. And I tell ya what. There is a TON of Pins for this small little And it's not even really an isolation. I only took a wedge from a MS agar dish. Isolated it into this dish and this is what happened. It's fruiting now in the agar dish. And one of the is a small mushy almost Figured it will be a nice clone to use for a fast fruiting And looks like a decent yeild going by how many it's popping up and most are starting to fruit. By looking at those three things. If say that's a good canidate right. Fast fruiting. Decent yeild for a Petri dish. And for Petri dish they are getting bigger then I thought they would. Of course they still tiny ass little mushies. Lol. But I'm doing that part right it seems. I got the AGAR down I think. Now I just need more agar. Lol. I have a lot more isolation a to do and I want to keep that one going too
Yeah sorry I forgot this was for a TEK. Everyone got pretty off topic and I forgot all about It. Lol. But I actually have been experimenting with popcorn and tried this TEK. It failed miserably. The popcorn is from the Dollar Tree tho and the kernels seem to bust open VERY EASILY when prepping it. So I put a hold on this TEK until I get some better popcorn.
I have two popcorn jars left But I doubt they will be any good either. The one is taken over by mold. The mold died. Now the Mycellium is taken over it I may spawn it outside just to see if I can save it but I doubt it.
I have two popcorn jars left But I doubt they will be any good either. The one is taken over by mold. The mold died. Now the Mycellium is taken over it I may spawn it outside just to see if I can save it but I doubt it.