HSO Chemdawg: How legit?

Dankonomics_genetics said:

Not any "common person" can just go get any elite cut they want. Some ppl would like to see that happen and are though

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It's happening. The 'elites' are no longer being hoarded, average joe can purchase them all day long, in certain areas.

Now I'm curious what else you may be incorrect about with your '20 years of experience'. jk

Olive Drab Green said:

I think you're paranoid and misanthropic.

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That statement won't bump your "I' points any.

Alright I'm out. I'd like to hear insider experience about varied seedbanks but I don't think I'll get that here. If you feel like talkin dirt start a pm and include me. Otherwise schedule an appointment with my secretary like everybody else. ya dig?

I just looked. HSO doesn't even make Strawberry Stardawg. So what kind of bullshit are you talking?

Olive Drab Green said:

The guy is THE ONLY PERSON to describe it as berry, out of the net-wide search I've done, therefore he did not grow an HSO Chemdawg seed. Closest to berry I have seen is "slightly pineapple"

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He didn't huh? Lol I'm sure he's a spy for another company out to ruin hso and their rep lol. Once again, most companies pay ppl to give them good reviews. They even pay to get advertising and shout outs from high times and all our favorite magazines. Esp all the big outfits. Dna I heard sold like 40 mil in seeds this year alone. The greenhouse who knows how much more? But with that kind of money you can buy anything, almost. I've had plenty of offers as well but I refuse to do it. It's like corking your bat imo. Cannabis cups are bought and paid for too, often. I read stuff all the time and laugh, because I know it's bullshit. And from an s2 or s1 or who knows of Chem lines, I'll tell you one thing, you won't have a stable strain you can say it's lemon pine fuely every pheno. 100% for sure, but I'm out of this now. Shits getting deep.

In fact, it looks like only Top Dawg does. So looks like Top Dawg fucked you and you're making shit up about HSO.

Olive Drab Green said:

I just looked. HSO doesn't even make Strawberry Stardawg. So what kind of bullshit are you talking?

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I made it bud. I'm a breeder too and I'm all over as well. Didn't have to pay ppl either, I came up the old fashioned way, hard work and knowledge and time.

Dankonomics_genetics said:

I made it bud. I'm a breeder too and I'm all over as well. Didn't have to pay ppl either, I came up the old fashioned way, hard work and knowledge and time.

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What does any of that have to do with HSO's Chemdawg #4? Nothing. You think I don't respect your ability? I don't even know you. I'm just saying, you have nothing to support or evidence your hypothesis on HSO's genetics.

Olive Drab Green said:

So your shit wasn't heavy and potent? Are you sure that's not your fault? And that aside, that description is subjective. Doesn't mean you didn't get what you ordered.

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Strawberry cough is in no way shape or form heavy or powerful. Stardawg is. Maybe phenos may be in this, but for the most part, it's very strawberry Dom. And this is a worked Chem line, I crossed into a clone only cross.

Olive Drab Green said:

What does any of that have to do with HSO's Chemdawg #4? Nothing. You think I don't respect your ability? I don't even know you. I'm just saying, you have nothing to support or evidence your hypothesis on HSO's genetics.

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They are grown here in Michigan all over. So yes I can base my opinions on experience first hand in every aspect of this debate. Stable s2 Chem lines, are like this when you read the breeders description lol when you have been around them for years and know ppl working them and s1 them and such.

Dankonomics_genetics said:

Strawberry cough is in no way shape or form heavy or powerful. Stardawg is. Maybe phenos may be in this, but for the most part, it's very strawberry Dom. And this is a worked Chem line, I crossed into a clone only cross.

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Again, that's really cool. This isn't proving that HSO's Chem 4 isn't at least S2, and if it is an S2, I'm still willing to risk it. If it turns out well, then I have myself a badass Chem 4. If not, oh well. I certainly don't care about the money.

Olive Drab Green said:

Again, that's really cool. This isn't proving that HSO's Chem 4 isn't at least S2, and if it is an S2, I'm still willing to risk it. If it turns out well, then I have myself a badass Chem 4. If not, oh well. I certainly don't care about the money.

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It just proves descriptions are misconstrued at times or even flat out lies. My original description I sent was amplified a lil bit I'd say. If that doesn't make you question things more idk what will? Why would I put my own company on blast? Or rather my distributor who must have had a problem along the way from there to the retailer about the description. Because I don't care either, the truth may not suit you but it will set you free. have a good one though. Just offered my .02 which isn't needed obviously here.

Dankonomics_genetics said:

It just proves descriptions are misconstrued at times or even flat out lies. My original description I sent was amplified a lil bit I'd say. If that doesn't make you question things more idk what will? Why would I put my own company on blast? Or rather my distributor who must have had a problem along the way from there to the retailer about the description. Because I don't care either, the truth may not suit you but it will set you free. have a good one though. Just offered my .02 which isn't needed obviously here.

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S2 still means it's in the genetic line. If it is, I will cultivate it into an excellent rendition of its parentage. That's all I care about.

Olive Drab Green said:

S2 still means it's in the genetic line. If it is, I will cultivate it into an excellent rendition of its parentage. That's all I care about.

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I hope you find it but I can tell you from experience an s1 or s2 of Chem 4 will not be like clones. It is possible to create synthetic induced seeds though I've read now. That are basically like clones in seed form but after running a ton of Chem stuff and being in with the guys in the know, you may find something similar, or even better, but the chances aren't very good in your favor. It could have worked but more than likely it would be an s2 cross or an s2 to to original to have their best chances. I'm not an expert on fems but I know a bit. Been making them since Somasmethod came out. But I'm onto some next level fem shit here now, with the root induced stuff. Idk why it seems to work out Better than cs or sts reversals but it does. Idk their methods but I'm sure it's sts induced on their scale. Dr green thumb though I've heard does the root reversals, as well as illuminati seeds and Escobar. All top notch fem breeders. But good luck with those, maybe you will hit the lottery, who knows? That's the fun in seeds. I just take it more seriously than most is all. I expect what I buy to be as it says.

Damn dankonomics I've been looking for your seeds on UK and euro sites but can't find any. Do American breeders ship stealth world wide . Seen another thread you got with all the pics and man do they look like fire. Any links you can point me in thanks

turnip83 said:

Damn dankonomics I've been looking for your seeds on UK and euro sites but can't find any. Do American breeders ship stealth world wide . Seen another thread you got with all the pics and man do they look like fire. Any links you can point me in thanks

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Thank you. Not the best thread to promote my stuff in though bro. I get along with almost every breeder, and have had hso show me plenty of love. I just was keepin it real with things. All these American banks though ship stealth and are your best options imo. I know they aren't breaking up packs and such which kills the shelf life of seeds if stored improperly esp. If your in Europe though they should be fine if you order full packs in their breeder packs. Seedsman is a good one in Europe though, I trust him a lot. He knows his stuff too. In America Sour patch seeds, Oregon elite seeds and csb seeds are all legit too.

Also if your in the uk I'm all over bro. The attitude, seedsman, castle seeds, single seed center, every day I see more and more and more. I quit hash tagging my banks on ig because I don't even know them all anymore. Only the American ones. I talk to each of them regularly, and have personal relationships with them all. Seedsman as well I see around and he too is a very personable fellow. I'd highly recommend him too over anyone prob in Europe.

Dankonomics_genetics said:

Also if your in the uk I'm all over bro. The attitude, seedsman, castle seeds, single seed center, every day I see more and more and more. I quit hash tagging my banks on ig because I don't even know them all anymore. Only the American ones. I talk to each of them regularly, and have personal relationships with them all. Seedsman as well I see around and he too is a very personable fellow. I'd highly recommend him too over anyone prob in Europe.

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So, wait. You think Seedsman does good work, but you think HSO isn't legit? Seedsman is average and mostly curates, to my knowledge. I got my first mutant from them.

I saw some like Russian seed bank even slangin my gear. I couldn't even understand lol whatever language it was but it was Eastern European for sure. I'm not here to promote my gear though and talk down others.

Olive Drab Green said:

So, wait. You think Seedsman does good work, but you think HSO isn't legit? Seedsman is average and mostly curates, to my knowledge. I got my first mutant from them.

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Seedsman is a seed bank as well. Idk about his seed lines he sells. I've never ran one, nothing personal at seedsman, but nothing but his afghani I'd be interested even in trying. I've heard his land races are legit though, idk about his crosses.

Dankonomics_genetics said:

Seedsman is a seed bank. Idk about his seed lines he sells. I've never ran one, nothing personal at seedsman, but nothing but his afghani I'd be interested even in trying. I've heard his land races are legit though, idk about his crosses.

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I had a good African Buzz from him, but the second A-Buzz I planted mutated. 3-leaf mutation.

Dankonomics_genetics said:

Seedsman is a seed bank. Idk about his seed lines he sells. I've never ran one, nothing personal at seedsman, but nothing but his afghani I'd be interested even in trying. I've heard his land races are legit though, idk about his crosses.

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I read his white widow was legit, which is why im trying it. I will report back on that in a few months.