Hydro Rw some major wilting (PICS)

PhatAnna

PhatAnna

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theyve been like this for 2 days or so. luckily every leaf has a healthy color of green. its just that its wilting and i have no idea what it is. mind you i had 1 other plant that died the same way but it also had nitrogen deficiencies. i chopped it up this morning and majority of the small roots were brownish color but a lot were still white.. sooo root rot possibly?

this morning i fed my surviving plant a new batch of full str ionic nutes set at 5.8 ph. its been 9 hours and no improvements.
 

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skunkushybrid

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Well there's no real signs of overnute, no spotting to the leaves, so you must have overwatered.

Get a fan on them, and bring the lights in closer. You need them to transpire some of the excess water.
 
PhatAnna

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you really think thats it? cuz i only watered them once on saturday and i woke up this morning and it was droopy like youre seeing now
 
PhatAnna

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what would be the physical signs of root rot be(how would the plants look like if i had root rot?)
 
skunkushybrid

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Yes root rot. Your plants can recover, but I don't think feeding them again was the right thing to do.

Have you got good circulation of air in the grow area? Your soil temps must be too high, roots like a temp best in the 68f range. This coupled with the overwatering has led to the roots rotting.

Mychorrizal fungi would be good right now, or voodoo juice... but you may also have overnuted them on your last feed. Which would mean another flush... you're in a bit of trouble.
 
skunkushybrid

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How good is your drainage of the pots?

Although I believe the fungi attacking your roots are born from overwatering and too high temps, caused through bad air circulation.
 
PhatAnna

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my temp is 85 right above the greens. but i dont know what my root temps are. i have a fan circulating air and a window/ door open so i think its good enough circulation. should i increase the power on the fans? i water 2 times a day on average. total of 10 seconds each.. i have 3% h202. you think i can do anything with that to help the roots? i wish i had the 30 some % one but i dont.
 
skunkushybrid

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Your temp's are not ideal... try and bring them down if you can.

What do you mean 10 seconds for water? They on some kind of drip system?

Whatever it is, i believe the combination of your temp's and the heavy waterings are what have led to the fungi attacking your roots.

Basically you have created an ideal environment to cultivate them in. The peroxide will kill them... but if you recreate the environment then they will come back.

Lay off the watering.
 
PhatAnna

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for my watering.. you can check my journal around the second page. but i hand water now. so these are how the plants are looking at now. i flushed with 5.8 water with 1 teaspoon of 3% h202. is there any other advice that you could give me or do i just wait to see if things turn up better... as of now iono what to do.. 1 of the leaves are yellowing/ browning too
 

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skunkushybrid

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The leaf browning could be through an overnute, also an undernute. As you've just flushed, and the plant is just picking itself back up I'd wait and see if the problem worsens. If it does worsen, then it's going to be because of under nute due to the flush.It'd be wise to feed with a half strength feed, then allow the medium to dry, before going in with the right ppm feed for stage of development.
 
PhatAnna

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i was talking to my friend at a hydro store about flushing. i was under the assumption that you only had to flush once but he said it was like a 3 day process. he gave me some kind of formula for free (perks of being a girl ^.^)

it says DNF 4-1-1 enhance
it just protects the plants from multiple stresses.

i checked earlier this morning when my lights went on. the brown is still there but it doesnt look like its spreading. not all but some of the leaves have picked itself up. soo i guess something is going right hehe. so yea.. i think ill flush 1 more time tomorrow and on wednesday ill add 1/2-- 3/4 str nutrients?

should i throw in the 3% h2o2 and DNF formula into the new soup?
 
iblazethatkush

iblazethatkush

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PhatAnna said:
i water 2 times a day on average. total of 10 seconds each.
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That's your problem right there. Biggest mistake of first-time growers. Sounds like your trying to do too much. I only water mine twice a week.....Oh wait, your growing hydro? NVM I don't know how that works.
 
skunkushybrid

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Hydro's the same, a plant can only drink so much. You also don't need to flush every 3 days... you shouldn't need to flush till the end.

A plant needs so much nutes per litre of water, if it drinks them all with no problems... why not give it more of what it wants? A lot of these hydrostore owners just want to sell products, and sound like they know what they're talking about... especially in front of a hot chick.

If your plants are picking up, then leave them to soak up the nice ph'd water that's in the medium. Give it a few days before hand watering them again. Plants need oxygen, if you keep topping up the medium with feed they will suffocate, and/or cause root rot. Leave them to dry for a good few days. Then feed with 1/2 strength nutes. In regards to the peroxide, I'd only use it on it's own without nutes, it depends whether you have organic nutes or not. Peroxide kills anything organic, I don't trust it personally.
 
iblazethatkush

iblazethatkush

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skunkushybrid said:
Hydro's the same, a plant can only drink so much. You also don't need to flush every 3 days... you shouldn't need to flush till the end.

A plant needs so much nutes per litre of water, if it drinks them all with no problems... why not give it more of what it wants? A lot of these hydrostore owners just want to sell products, and sound like they know what they're talking about... especially in front of a hot chick.

If your plants are picking up, then leave them to soak up the nice ph'd water that's in the medium. Give it a few days before hand watering them again. Plants need oxygen, if you keep topping up the medium with feed they will suffocate, and/or cause root rot. Leave them to dry for a good few days. Then feed with 1/2 strength nutes. In regards to the peroxide, I'd only use it on it's own without nutes, it depends whether you have organic nutes or not. Peroxide kills anything organic, I don't trust it personally.
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Yeah, I agree with Skunk. Sounds like your trying to be too good of a mom. Just let them grow, they really don't need all that.
 
email468

email468

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huh? all hydro must not be the same. the lower roots are sitting in oxygenated water and the sprayer hits the main root with aerated water 24x7.
 
PhatAnna

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ok another question. what if it gets to the point where i need to add nutes cuz the plants are showing signs of deficiencies due to the fact i havent added nutes for awhile because of the flushes. what do i do then? just be patient and wait till it drys then add 1/2?
 
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