I just wish the bud i grew got me high.

Brick Top

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Originally Posted by Brick Top

Puppies like you couldn't handle the kind of stuff I cut my teeth on. You'd be crying for your mamas.


Why does everyone say this? It makes you sound really stupid as you know nothing of me/my smoking habits, hell if it were possible to do so (and like it's a contest), I could probably smoke you under the table.

And your dentures are probably stronger than my teeth.
I said it because I know the difference between the herb of the late 60's and 70's and the herb of today.


Oh ... not that it matters ... but I don't have dentures. I do have three crowns but the rest of my teeth are the same ones I've had since losing my baby teeth.
 

DrFever

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i always wonder why people wonder off the topic on each thread i read lol
as for 60's i landed on this earth mid 60's lol 70's listened to base city rollers lmaoooooooo late 70's and 80's i started smoking weeeed you know the weed that went snap crackle pop weed :)) i can remember some funny times then was it ever a blast anyone remember selling just oil on paper joints for 2.00 you roll it up hahahaa blow on it and open the paper add tobacoo and roll in school i do :))
nowadays the strains are so fckin mixed up its not even funny what i get a real kick out of is strain hunters goin all over the world and getting back to basic genetics i think there back on track and goin the right way
 

Brick Top

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i always wonder why people wonder off the topic on each thread i read lol
as for 60's i landed on this earth mid 60's lol 70's listened to base city rollers lmaoooooooo late 70's and 80's i started smoking weeeed you know the weed that went snap crackle pop weed :)) i can remember some funny times then was it ever a blast anyone remember selling just oil on paper joints for 2.00 you roll it up hahahaa blow on it and open the paper add tobacoo and roll in school i do :))
nowadays the strains are so fckin mixed up its not even funny what i get a real kick out of is strain hunters goin all over the world and getting back to basic genetics i think there back on track and goin the right way
It was the Bay City Rollers .. a Scottish band.

If someone could get their hands on Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine and go back to the 60's and early to mid 70's and collect a whole bunch of pure old school genetics ... either releasing them in their pure form or making crosses, but different crosses than were made in the past, they could become very popular and very wealthy very quickly.
 

Neumann

Active Member
The hippies helped kill good weed. Back in the old days there were actual sativas coming out of Mex that made it all the way to the east coast and Asian stuff coming in from the Triangle. There were indicas that were properly grown and cured. Once the growers switched to more profitable fast indicas and speed "curing" there was nothing but brown weed and seed around this area. Weed has come back a long way but anybody that tells you that all the old weed was junk or weaker is just a pup.
 

Brick Top

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Ill smoke it for u and tell ya how good it was*)
If you can go back in time ... take me with you. Until you figure that out, if you want to check out message number 1890 following this link https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/330370-whos-got-fostiest-buds-lets-95.html#post5543865 you can check out a Maui sativa that has been kept going in clone form since the 70's. Take a look at it and ask yourself if that's what you would have expected from a strain that is roughly 40 years old.

Oh .. and don't try to fool yourself and say it only looks good because it was grown today ... that's what I had back then looked like.
 

sk8disgruntled

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well put man


Autoflower has nothing to do with the length of time from flower to harvest. It just means it's what I call a "lazy man's grow" meaning you don't have to worry about switching light cycles and when to do so.That 8 week time is the breeders fantasy had they been grown under optimal conditions, which I'm sure most people can't really duplicate. If it says 8 weeks, bet your bottom dollar it's going to take ten or more to finish properly. If you haven't cut yet, don't. Also you said it has crystals and hairs. Well, all plants have that from about the third day of flower so that alone tells us next to nothing. Post a photo or two when you can and we can better guess how long you have to go. Speed drying, or quick drying is a waste of time IMO. You put all sorts of time, effort, and money into growing something that will hopefully be superior to anything you can get on the streets, then ruin it by trying to rush through what is one of the most important parts of obtaining good smoke. Take the time to let the plant(s) finish properly, then dry and cure properly, and you WILL NOT be disappointed.
 

323cheezy

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do u really think that marijuana has devolved ???
I reallly doubt it....
I mean i used to think pussy was better in the 90's but thats just because it was new too mee then ....
In fact everything was better or is better when u first have it.... Am i right or am i right....
I had the best most amazing high from some schwagg that i puchased from a bum when i was 14yrs old ....that practically was pulled right out of his ass ....
after all it was my first time high....
so i can understand why oldtimers feel this way ....
 

Brick Top

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do u really think that marijuana has devolved ???
I reallly doubt it....
I mean i used to think pussy was better in the 90's but thats just because it was new too mee then ....
In fact everything was better or is better when u first have it.... Am i right or am i right....
I had the best most amazing high from some schwagg that i puchased from a bum when i was 14yrs old ....that practically was pulled right out of his ass ....
after all it was my first time high....
so i can understand why oldtimers feel this way ....

It is not that pot of the past, and I am talking the 60's and 70's, just seemed great because it was new and seemed to have a major impact because of it. It was great because it was great.

Consider THC percentages of the highest percentage strains for the last decade or decade and a half. When has there been a true appreciable increase over that time period?

To use the original White Widow, Shantibaba's Black Widow, when it first won a Cup way back in 1995 different tests came back with THC levels of between 20% and 22%. If someone cares to believe them or not that's something different, but that was what the claims were at the time. Sixteen years later about the highest believable percentage is 25%. (I saw believable because no one believes the bogus claims of BC Seeds, that I think might now be defunct, and their alleged 40% to 50% strains.)

When in the past sixteen years has there been a true appreciable increase in actual potency? There has been much variety added, and many gimmicks like feminized seeds and auto-flowering strains and many pretty color strains and ones that have exotic aromas and ones that taste like Fruity Pebbles, but if pot is getting better why aren't the highest THC percentage strains 30% or 35% or more by now?

OK, look to the past, the 60's and the 70's. Low grade commercial was tested and came in as having between 1.3% to 3% THC and the highest grade strains tested came in between 9% and 13% or 14%. Pretty weak stuff compared to the 20% THC and higher strains that exist today.

The dirty little secret that 'The Dutch Masters' have never revealed and have hoped for many years would remain a secret was the way THC levels were tested were altered, the testing procedure was no longer performed in the same manner and that resulted in an overnight massive increase in reported levels of THC.

Science knew far less about cannabinoids in the 60's and the 70's and when testing was done everything in trichome heads were factored into the THC percentage calculation. That meant organic substances belonging to buds, things like amino-acids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, cannabinoids and even actual plant matter, the glands within glandular trichome head were included and non-glandular trichome heads were also part of the equation.


Later when more was learned all that was tested for were cannabinoids and only cannabinoids and things like
organic substances belonging to buds, things like amino-acids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones and even actual plant matter, the glands within glandular trichome head were included and non-glandular trichome heads were no longer a part of the equation, they were factored out of how THC levels were determined.


Consider how much of a difference that would make on THC percentages, having so many things removed from the equation making the exact same amount of THC a much higher percentage of the overall number of elements found.


Here is an example of a strain I found where it's THC level was tested under the old testing method and also under the newer testing method. Notice how a double digit THC level dropped to being a single digit THC level.


The strain and breeder:

Strain: Afgan Kush
Breeder: World of Seeds


The test results:

THC Level: 21.6% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids. 7.4% measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: amino-acids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids (determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)

Did everyone notice how using the newer testing method, where THC is a percentage of cannabinoids and only cannabinoids how the results were the strain had 21.6% THC but when the exact same strain was tested using the old testing method the THC level dropped all the way down to 7.4%?

Think about the highest grade strains of the 60's and the 70's that were tested using the old method, the method that was used in that era, and the results were between 9% to 13% and 14%. All of those are higher than the 7.4% found in the modern strain that using the newer method came in at 21.6% THC. The highest THC levels of the past, using the old method, were not all that far from being double what the 7.4% strain.

What does that tell you? That if the old 60's and 70's strains that under the old testing method were tested using the newer testing method that their THC levels would be HIGHER than any modern strain today.

Something else to factor in was that the testing in the past was not done as soon as a bust was made. They took yearly samples, made yearly tests to chart THC levels. Confiscated cannabis sat in government warehouses and under open sided government sheds and sometimes stacked in the open with tarps covering them or in cases where an 18-wheeler trailer was found loaded the trailer would be parked on government land and they all sat there for up to a year in conditions known to degrade THC. They were exposed to light and heat and the elements. Some yanked up and piled wile wet were basically compost piles where heat, high heat would develop deep within the piles and that heat, in addition to the natural heat, would degrade THC while the various collections of cannabis waited for as much as a year to be tested.

So by the time testing was performed there were in some cases a massive degradation of THC and that combined with the old testing procedure resulted in low levels of THC being found.

Before THC degradation the 1.3% to 4% strains might have been more like 4% to 8% and the 9% to 14% strains might have been more like 12% to 17%. If so how do you think those strains would do if tested using the newer testing method?

Anyone who believes that the very best strains of the 60's and 70' were weaker than strains today is flat out wrong. If they were toking in those days and what they smoked was not the very best, then it would be natural for them to believe that modern strains are more potent. But not having experienced the very best would leave them without a broad enough comparative base to make an accurate claim. And those who are younger who never knew that the way THC levels were tested only have the results from the old testing procedure to go on, which created a false low level of THC, and they believe the results to be accurate so they naturally believe the 17%, 19%, 21% to 25% strains of today to be much higher in levels of THC. But that is only because they do not know that the method for testing THC levels was altered and the alterations instantly created vastly higher percentages of THC found.

On another subject, that being how pussy seems so spectacular when it's new to you and then later, while still damn good, just doesn't have the same amount of pizazz to it? Well often times that is the result of marriage and having the same pussy, the same aging pussy that often times has a few babies heads forced through it, all the time.

I like to use this as an example. Think of what your very favorite food in the world is. The food that you love far better than any other. If you had to eat that food every day for every single meal how long would it take before a greasy hamburger from White Castle or someplace like that taste damn good?

I'm 56 years old and single. When I get 'the itch' I order takeout, I rent an 'escort.' Even at 56 years old a hot as Hades 18 or 20 year old 'escorts' pussy is as spectacular as my first or my second or my first dozen or more. A guy aging doesn't make pussy any less spectacular or enjoyable to them. It's the aging of the pussy and the body around it that takes away the thrill and the excitement of having it. That's why so many guys leave their old wives for younger babes or cheat on them with young babes ... because they are sick and tired of eating what they once thought was their favorite food every single time they have a meal.

All you young guys ... wait until you are about 40 or 45 or 50 and take a good look at that floppity sloppity stretched out drying up old hole and then go rent yourself or pick up some young babe who can clamp it down on you like a pair of vice grips and work it like there's three or four cow milking competition winners all have a grip on you and working you over at once and you will then understand what I am talking about. Then add to it the pleasure and excitement of not looking at a body that has suffered the ravages of pregnancies and gravity and all their 'parts' are where they are supposed to be ..... and that 'thang' will be every bit as hot and as exciting as your first and your second and your first dozen.

You can take the word of this OLD dude. It will be just as good, if not better.

Thus endeth the lesson.

http://www.eros-guide.com/


Additional. As good as all that is guys like me really do not pay 'escorts' too have sex. The real reason we pay them is so they will LEAVE right after sex.


 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I rad the first three pages and I think your probably harvesting too late (I'm guessing your an amber trichome guy?), and drying too long. Plus your growing an auto man, a plant with inherently weak genetics. You say you have some white widow and some other stuff starting to flower, I'm sure you'll be happier with that. White widow is supposed to be one of the strongest strains out there. I mean think about it; you probably started growing because you smoked some great weed and wanted your own. That weed had to come from somewhere.

wow... just wow.
after reading the last page I can see that I am now way off topic...
So anybody else fuck any good whores lately...?
lmao
 

4 the love of ganja

Active Member
check your trichomes with a 60 to a 100x magnifying glass if they are still clear then there is you answer to why its not getting you high, they need to be cloudy white/amber
 

Brick Top

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I rad the first three pages and I think your probably harvesting too late (I'm guessing your an amber trichome guy?), and drying too long. Plus your growing an auto man, a plant with inherently weak genetics. You say you have some white widow and some other stuff starting to flower, I'm sure you'll be happier with that. White widow is supposed to be one of the strongest strains out there. I mean think about it; you probably started growing because you smoked some great weed and wanted your own. That weed had to come from somewhere.
While most do not know it, or at least most will not accept it, but it appear you do know it, amber is a sign of degraded THC, THC that has oxidized and become CBN, a mildly psychoactive element that causes confusion and disorientation and drowsiness and sleepiness. That is hardly my definition of a good high or a good stone.

wow... just wow.
after reading the last page I can see that I am now way off topic...
So anybody else fuck any good whores lately...?
lmao
That was merely a side note to the more important information ... and you should be more polite and show more respect for those who enter the world's oldest profession and refer to them as 'escorts.' Just because they escort my 'weasel' into the various openings in their bodies in return for monetary compensation that does not mean they should be shown any lesser degree of respect than any other female.

Consider all the females that do the very same thing in return for a dinner and a movie or a few drinks and some dancing but in the end really do not care any more about the guy they are with than an 'escort' does, but who had an itch that needed scratching and figured they might as well get something else from the guy and out of the night other than just wham bam thank you ma'am.

When you think about it are they really all that different?
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
That was merely a side note to the more important information ... and you should be more polite and show more respect for those who enter the world's oldest profession and refer to them as 'escorts.' Just because they escort my 'weasel' into the various openings in their bodies in return for monetary compensation that does not mean they should be shown any lesser degree of respect than any other female.

Consider all the females that do the very same thing in return for a dinner and a movie or a few drinks and some dancing but in the end really do not care any more about the guy they are with than an 'escort' does, but who had an itch that needed scratching and figured they might as well get something else from the guy and out of the night other than just wham bam thank you ma'am.

When you think about it are they really all that different?
Yeah, I never strive to achieve amber trichomes. That's like striving to fail.

While I think we could have an hour long philosophical conversation on what you would call a woman who receives money (or compensation) for sex and what classifies as compensation, we here in Las Vegas are under no illusions or denial when it comes to prostitution. All an escort is, is a whore with the internet, I'm sorry.
I do believe that relationships are mostly unspoken co-dependant psychological addictions for the most part.
 

Brick Top

New Member
we here in Las Vegas are under no illusions or denial when it comes to prostitution. All an escort is, is a whore with the internet, I'm sorry.
I guess I just have more respect for those who pick the world's oldest profession for their line of work. Possibly it is because I have been lucky enough to meet a few, only a few though, who are really nice. I once had pneumonia and spent several days in bed and was so sick I wouldn't get up to make myself something to eat or even get something to drink. Once called to see if I wanted company that weekend and I said I was too sick and when she heard I wasn't eating or drinking she came over and played nurse. Now maybe that could be called marketing and a way to get me to think of her first in the future, but I really did appreciate what she did. It was very nice. She may accept money in return for access to her body but I cannot make myself call someone who was that nice and helpful to me when I really could use some help something as disrespectful as a whore.


I do believe that relationships are mostly unspoken co-dependant psychological addictions for the most part.
Other than the occasional relationship that is really meant to be I see many relationships as something along the lines of sadomasochism where both involved seem to get off on psychologically torturing and being psychologically tortured. If not they would not remain together.
 
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